# Connection details ## Meeting Information * Date: Feb 2nd 2021; 7-8am US Pacific PST, 4pm CET: https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=100,12,5392171,1850147&h=100&date=2021-02-02&sln=15-16 * Meeting Recording link: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/ldr.php?RCID=ab720119aa864d61a0d536ab821c918d # Action items ## Next ## Last * change the NBIOT target date to early 2022 * * Find 3GPP assistance for Ana on NBIOT (Eric + Pascal) on hold * Laurent to refresh the model draft and the chairs to ask to an early review by YANG Doctors via datatracker # To do Laurent to send a doodle on the ML to choose a time for a session on YANG # Bluesheets * Éric Vyncke, Cisco * Alexander Pelov, Acklio * Pascal Thubert, Cisco * Laurent Toutain, IMT Atlantique * Georgios Papadopoulos, IMT Atlantique * Dominique Barthel, Orange * Julien Catalano, Kerlink * Carles Gomez, Universitat Politecnica de Catalunya * Carsten Bormann * Juan Carlos Zúñiga, Sigfox * Olivier Gimenez, Semtech * Sergio Aguilar * Ana Minaburo, Acklio * Sergio Aguilar * Edgar Ramos, Ericsson (last interims for copy/paste) * Diego Dujovne, UDP * Edgar Ramos, Ericsson * Paul Duffy, Cisco * Vincent Audebert, EDF * Alexander Pelov, Acklio * Ivaylo Petrov, Acklio * Arunprabhu Kandasamy, Acklio * Sean Turner, sn3rd * J Lecoeuvre * David Millman * Ricardo Andreasen * Arthur Oval # Agenda ## [16:05] Administrivia [10min] ### Note-Well, Scribes, Agenda Bashing ### WG Status ## [16:10] SCHC over LoRaWAN [15min] ## [16:25] CoAP over SCHC [20min] ## [16:45] Field Length in SCHC [10min] ## [16:55] AOB [ QS ] # Minutes ## [16:05] Administrivia [10min] Alexander gives the usuual intro script, this is an aofficial IETF meeting BCPs apply (inc. IPR). No recording. Meetings minutes captured here. ### Note-Well, Scribes, Agenda Bashing Laurent suggests to talk about the Yang document. Minutes of last meeting approved ### WG Status OAM draft not yet a WG document. Document to be reviewed and brought back to the WG's attention. Yang draft, version 4 published. Need a work session with interested parties. ## [16:10] SCHC over LoRaWAN [15min] Olivier: Limited change; editorial clarification. Also an IID-related update. Support of the proposed IID derivation algo is a MUST, using it is a SHOULD. Fixing the hexa: the new value is confirmed; the current plan is to wait for AUTH 48 to inject the correction. Suggestion to send the fixed XML now to the RFC Editor before they start editing it. ## [16:25] SCHC Header Compression in 6lo(WPAN) Environment [20min] Carles: using SCHC HC in 6LoWPAN space. Carles presents history (see slides) Carles: Add SCHC compression in addition to 6Lo HC Might consider a SCHC HC dispatch. Use the page selector, use a whole page? Carles: can go from 7 to 2 bytes Pascal: SCHC can compress also other layers, so the gain can potentially be more imporant. Pascal: SCHC is stateful - you need preparation. 6LoWPAN is stateless - you don't need any previous setup (any-to-any). So it's really a different usage: RFC 6282 is minimum preparation minimum win. SCHC is max preparaion, node specific etc... but max win as well. Carles: in terms of context, even in 6LoWPAN if you have global addresses, you still need some kind of contexts, or infrasturcture with ND to discover this common context. Carles: effect of the compression on battery lifetime, from theoretical point of view. Carsten: what's the use of using 6LP then SCHC? Laurent: An example would be for mesh networks to use 6LP to route the packets on the IP layer, and use SCHC for the compression of the upper layers Pascal: RFC8138 is what you want to cross the mesh (on route-over) Carsten: That may need a lot of thinking to get right Pascal: need use-cases Alexander: The work seems a good thing to pursue, need to clear up the targeted use-cases Alexander: the home WG would be 6LO? Carles: yes, 6LO Alexander: advance the work in LPWAN, make sure we agree that it's good enough, then ask for adoption in 6LO, and ensure WGLC in 6LO and LPWAN Eric: yes, agreed. Need to double-check on the 6LO charter of course. Working Group Last Call should be done in 6LO and LPWAN. ## [16:55] Field Length in SCHC [5min] See slides; Laurent suggests to keep the existing IGNORE as is and create anew matching operator MATCH_LENGTH so that the rule indicates the length of teh variable length field. ## [16:55] AOB [ QS ]