# CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting | Date |Time | Local Times | |:------:|:-----------:|:------| |2022-01-25 |21:00 Amsterdam |[Time Converter](https://savvytime.com/converter/netherlands-amsterdam-to-utc-ny-new-york-city-ca-san-francisco/jun-22-2021/9pm)| | **Note** | Meeting time is anchored to Amsterdam | ## Administrivia ### INFO: https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes/tree/master/interim-2022-01 **Note that we're now pointing to the Github repo for chair notes here** ### WEB CONFERENCE: https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=7c38e939-3eaf-451e-8fde-8d05e4bd88c8 #### Shared COMIMD for notetaking: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual * Note that if you log in to the IETF datatracker, you'll be able to edit these notes, add your name to attendee lists, etc. * Please ask Spencer if you have questions. :::warning The ComiMD URL is still redirecting, but the newly official location is https://notes.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?edit - and that's active now. Please bookmark the new one when you're redirected to it. ::: ### Logistics for Meeting #### 2022 virtual interim meeting dates * Please note our 2022 dates listed at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cellar/meetings/ ## Agenda Items ### Note Well: https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/ #### Roll call Attendees * * Michael Richardson Regrets * Spencer Dawkins (will be 30 min late) #### Accept draft minutes from previous meeting (attached below) * Any objections? Please let us know on the mailing list. * No objections on the mailing list or on the call. ### WG status update * draft-ietf-cellar-chapter-codecs-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-codec-07 was posted 2021-10-19, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-control-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-18 was posted 2021-11-27, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-flac-02 was posted 2021-11-01, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-08 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-tags-07 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists ### Milestone review: * Previous status: Jerome is now able to focus on FFV1-v4, since we've published FFV1. **ACTION** Spencer to send e-mail to DISPATCH when we submit a (small) update. We should wait until we have a bit more text, or bigger issues, to publish as a draft. * Are we ready to submit a working group draft for EBML updates (errata plus additions) yet? (https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/tree/corrections-doc) - we can still wait for more feedback/bigger changes before submitting anything - ETA is "after we get Matroska out, so we know everything Matroska needs will be covered" ##### Discussion on the call * ### Matroska issues - Discussion on the call * ### FLAC issues - Discussion on the call * ### FFV1 v4 issues - Discussion on the call * No discussion on the call ## AOB? * :::success NEXT MEETING 2022-01-25 :tada: ::: # CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting | Date |Time | Local Times | |:------:|:-----------:|:------| |2021-11-23 |21:00 Amsterdam |[Time Converter](https://savvytime.com/converter/netherlands-amsterdam-to-utc-ny-new-york-city-ca-san-francisco/jun-22-2021/9pm)| | **Note** | Meeting time is anchored to Amsterdam | ## Administrivia ### INFO: https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes/tree/master/interim-2021-10 **Note that we're now pointing to the Github repo for chair notes here** ### WEB CONFERENCE: https://whereby.com/cellar-interim THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try connecting to the whereby.com link at any time.) Try out the meetecho link: https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=ec140dba-9bf7-4173-80cf-bf1d86100095 #### Shared COMIMD for notetaking: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual * Note that if you log in to the IETF datatracker, you'll be able to edit these notes, add your name to attendee lists, etc. * Please ask Spencer if you have questions. :::warning The ComiMD URL is still redirecting, but the newly official location is https://notes.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?edit - and that's active now. Please bookmark the new one when you're redirected to it. ::: ### Logistics for Meeting #### 2021 virtual interim meeting dates * Please note our 2022 dates listed at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cellar/meetings/ ## Agenda Items ### Note Well: https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/ #### Roll call Attendees * Spencer Dawkins * Michael Richardson * Martijn van Beurden * Steve Lhomme * Jérôme Martinez * Michael Niedermayer * Dave Rice Regrets * ### News You Can Use * **NOTE** that https://mediaarea.net/NoTimeToWait5 is December 8-10, with in-person and virtual registration - a lot of us are attending ** workshop on improving Matroska, and how to improve FFV1. ** the workshops are on December 8, meeting 9/10. #### Final dates for 2022 Cellar meetings have been approved by our AD and added to the datatracker * 2022-01-25 * 2022-02-22 * 2022-03-29 * 2022-04-26 * 2022-05-24 * 2022-06-28 * 2022-08-23 * 2022-09-27 * 2022-10-25 * 2022-12-06 ### WG status update * draft-ietf-cellar-chapter-codecs-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-codec-07 was posted 2021-10-19, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-control-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-17 was posted 2021-05-25, in ID Exists **Expires Soon** -18 will be a keep-alive submission * draft-ietf-cellar-flac-02 was posted 2021-11-01, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-08 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-tags-07 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists ### Milestone review: * Previous status: Jerome is now able to focus on FFV1-v4, since we've published FFV1. **ACTION** Spencer to send e-mail to DISPATCH when we submit a (small) update. We should wait until we have a bit more text, or bigger issues, to publish as a draft. * Are we ready to submit a working group draft for EBML updates (errata plus additions) yet? (https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/tree/corrections-doc) - we can still wait for more feedback/bigger changes before submitting anything - ETA is "after we get Matroska out, so we know everything Matroska needs will be covered" ##### Discussion on the call * **ACTION:** For Matroska, **Spencer and Michael** will review the IANA considerations, especially for deprecated assignments/non-assignments, and ask for ART area review * move the security considerations before IANA section #### Accept draft minutes from previous meeting (attached below) * Any objections? Please let us know on the mailing list. * No objections on the mailing list or on the call. ### Making sure we have copyright issues straightened out for the FLAC specification * Update from Michael on discussions with Josh Coalson and IETF Trust * Continue with the current document, or start a new one? ##### Discussion on the call * Martijn has a PR for new text, but we can use text from the previous document now that Josh has agreed that we have permission * **ACTION: Spencer and Michael**: get list of authors correct. * Martijn to add himself as an author and delete Michael Richardson * We will continue to engage with Josh on whether he would like to be listed as an author or added as a contributor * We should add the Xiph documentation as a informative reference ### Matroska issues - Discussion on the call * (above IANA Considerations review) * We do have PRs we can merge now * **ACTION: please review pull requests: 115, 555** ### FLAC issues - Discussion on the call * Discussed under copyright topic above ### FFV1 v4 issues - Discussion on the call * No discussion on the call * **ACTION: -18 keepalive version will get reposted by Dave Rice** ## AOB? * NoTimeToWait5 is sending updates to attendees that includes current information about potential CoViD-19 lockdowns and restrictions for vaccinated-only attendees, etc.