[{"author": "Duane Wessels", "text": "maybe warrens poor audio was echoing from tim
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:55:16Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "Tim is ruining all audio, I think (seriously) when unmuted
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:55:26Z"}, {"author": "Roger Murray", "text": "Benno sounds good
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:55:29Z"}, {"author": "Duane Wessels", "text": "right
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:55:31Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "so I should not present then !
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:55:42Z"}, {"author": "Paul Wouters", "text": "Love the meetecho cross site scripting attack when you are not yet logged into the datatracker when going to the meetecho link
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:55:55Z"}, {"author": "Roger Murray", "text": "the conundrum of being impressed or scared.. ;)
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:56:27Z"}, {"author": "Paul Wouters", "text": "Had to open a tab manually and login then go to meetecho link
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:56:35Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "Tim's audio is still pretty bad
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:57:23Z"}, {"author": "Vladim\u00edr \u010cun\u00e1t", "text": "yes
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:57:34Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "Thanks for letting me know - I had some real pokey connections to meetecho
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:58:06Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "(i now owe Peter and Vladimir a drink for getting me out of the speaking!)
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:58:35Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "Taking minutes in https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2022-dnsop-01-dnsop?edit
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:58:47Z"}, {"author": "Suzanne Woolf", "text": "My sound check was fine but I can't get the speaker to switch to my headset....first problem I can remember with meetecho
", "time": "2022-05-24T16:59:43Z"}, {"author": "sftcd", "text": "fwiw, my draft got here via dispatch not secdispatch (though IMO there's too much dispatchery in general:-)
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:00:27Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "Meetecho has generally worked well for me - using Edge on Windows 10
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:00:44Z"}, {"author": "Suzanne Woolf", "text": "Stephen, my mistake, sorry
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:00:51Z"}, {"author": "sftcd", "text": "no probs
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:00:58Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "Ulrich - could you mute
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:05:11Z"}, {"author": "Vladim\u00edr \u010cun\u00e1t", "text": "Much better.
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:05:26Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "Suggestion - add an Implementation Section in the Appendix
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:08:24Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "oh wait now I see it in #8
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:09:24Z"}, {"author": "Roger Murray", "text": "feel free to contact me or Johan if anyone has any questions or comments.
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:09:50Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "audio is cursed today
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:10:03Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "Thanks Roger/Johan
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:10:06Z"}, {"author": "Ulrich Wisser", "text": "Thank you! I have to leave, sorry
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:11:32Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "thanks Ulrich!
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:11:38Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "Thanks Ulrich!
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:11:40Z"}, {"author": "Roger Murray", "text": "https://blog.apnic.net/2022/03/08/authenticated-bootstrapping-of-dnssec-delegations/
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:15:07Z"}, {"author": "sftcd", "text": "+1 to ben - saying REQUIRED there seems unnecessary and wrong technically
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:17:55Z"}, {"author": "sftcd", "text": "I tend to setup new zones with both external and in-balliwick NSes so also wondered about Ben's question
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:19:45Z"}, {"author": "John Levine", "text": "yes, reserve _dsauth
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:21:23Z"}, {"author": "Kim Davies", "text": "+1
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:21:31Z"}, {"author": "Benjamin Schwartz", "text": "+1
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:21:33Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "+1
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:21:35Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "_domainkey is intermediate too, etc. etc.
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:21:44Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "We can help Peter
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:21:50Z"}, {"author": "Suzanne Woolf", "text": "Registry policy for https://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-parameters/dns-parameters.xhtml#underscored-globally-scoped-dns-node-names is expert review
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:21:54Z"}, {"author": "Donald Eastlake", "text": "I can help with IANA text.
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:22:02Z"}, {"author": "Suzanne Woolf", "text": "One of the experts s here :-)
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:22:03Z"}, {"author": "Vladim\u00edr \u010cun\u00e1t", "text": "Frederico A C Neves, Paul Wouters
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:23:19Z"}, {"author": "Suzanne Woolf", "text": "Yep thanks
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:23:40Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "Paul is my Expert
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:23:41Z"}, {"author": "Paul Wouters", "text": "Yes i can help
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:24:03Z"}, {"author": "Paul Wouters", "text": "iPhone meetecho client is \u2026. Not easy
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:24:29Z"}, {"author": "Benno Overeinder", "text": "Thanks Paul!
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:28:49Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "my audio is not working
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:34:41Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "i'll go to the list later
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:34:49Z"}, {"author": "Benjamin Schwartz", "text": "Peter: Have you clicked the mic icon?
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:35:06Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "ok - number 3, I don't get it. How would you know if something is the leaf domain or not?
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:35:09Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "Ben, I did!
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:35:11Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "Meetecho then showed a popup saying it could not hear me. It did work right here 45 minutes ago
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:35:30Z"}, {"author": "Vladim\u00edr \u010cun\u00e1t", "text": "1. sounds easiest to me.
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:35:58Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "ok, thanks!
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:35:58Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "@PVD Local muting button on your mic?
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:36:03Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "Andrew, that would be news! I'll debug later :)
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:36:26Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "It would be helpful to me if we had some examples with all records
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:37:26Z"}, {"author": "Benjamin Schwartz", "text": "Why do they need to be enumerated?
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:39:24Z"}, {"author": "Nils Wisiol", "text": "Vladimir, 1 may be easy now but 6 would generalize easier (lets say you want signal DNSKEYs).
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:39:54Z"}, {"author": "sftcd", "text": "#5 seems reasonable to me
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:40:18Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "#6 seems more general
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:40:32Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "6 just feels wrong, no objective argument
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:40:37Z"}, {"author": "John Levine", "text": "Not opposed to #6 but it seems like solving a non problem
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:40:38Z"}, {"author": "Benjamin Schwartz", "text": "Does #6 actually solve the problem?
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:40:55Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "6 solves the problem if a domain name does not contain _signal or _dsauth
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:41:08Z"}, {"author": "Benjamin Schwartz", "text": "What if _dsauth is actually the apex of another zone?
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:41:10Z"}, {"author": "John Levine", "text": "Yes, can\u2019t zone cut at non hostname
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:41:17Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "we had a similar discussion in the dns error reporting draft, where these sentinels on both sides turned out to not solve things
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:41:22Z"}, {"author": "John Levine", "text": "Oh wait yes you can
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:41:51Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "you can zone cut at any non-escaped period
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:42:02Z"}, {"author": "Roger Murray", "text": "#1 is easier to communicate and avoids risks of confusion with cds/cdnskey as used to
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:42:17Z"}, {"author": "Benjamin Schwartz", "text": "So I think #6 needs its own version of #5
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:42:19Z"}, {"author": "Roger Murray", "text": "today
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:42:23Z"}, {"author": "Benjamin Schwartz", "text": "or #3
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:42:26Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "cds/cdnskey deployment has been slow
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:43:00Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "No hats : I think 1 is cleanest...
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:43:58Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "I missed what the downside to #1 is, other than burning codepoints...
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:44:38Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "Thanks
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:46:39Z"}, {"author": "Suzanne Woolf", "text": "The other concern I have about this issue is that the mechanics are getting complicated, we will need very precise language around them
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:47:36Z"}, {"author": "Vladim\u00edr \u010cun\u00e1t", "text": "Implementing a new RRtype that's a copy of another one should be easy, surely.  And only parties interested in this bootstrapping will need it, I believe.
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:48:45Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "yes - 1 is simple
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:48:47Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "Vladimir, yes
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:48:55Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "Will add jabber log to minutes
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:49:06Z"}, {"author": "Benno Overeinder", "text": "Stephen, are you ready to go next?
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:49:39Z"}, {"author": "Vladim\u00edr \u010cun\u00e1t", "text": "(Though I can't estimate what kind of other signalling and thus types might be useful in future.)
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:49:44Z"}, {"author": "sftcd", "text": "sure
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:49:45Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "For the record, I hope the answer is not no. I hope it's yep we know about this and can provide useful innpuit.
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:52:50Z"}, {"author": "Benjamin Schwartz", "text": "Note that this not needed for an ordinary HTTP CDN
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:53:33Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "Thanks Ben
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:54:21Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "If there was only a TLS chair in this meeting...
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:55:06Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "My comment from the mail included: \"to my mind that makes it seem much more like it should be adopted in something like TLS, with some input / review from DNSOP / HTTPBIS\u2026\"
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:55:40Z"}, {"author": "Roger Murray", "text": "+1 on the format
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:56:24Z"}, {"author": "sftcd", "text": "yeah warren's correct as always:-)
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:56:27Z"}, {"author": "Tim Wicinski", "text": "I want to thank everyone!
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:56:29Z"}, {"author": "Peter Thomassen", "text": "Thank you to the chairs that make it happening
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:56:39Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "@sftd: \"vaya con dios\" :-P
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:56:53Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "thanks!
", "time": "2022-05-24T17:57:21Z"}]