INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the July 14, 2022 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area Paul Wouters (Aiven) / Security Area Qin Wu (Huawei) / IAB Liaison REGRETS --------------------------------- Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) / Routing Area Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Andrew Campling Charles Eckel David Lawrence Ben Schwartz Lee-Berkeley Shaw Greg Wood MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the June 30, 2022 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the June 30, 2022 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the June 30, 2022 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-quic-bit-grease-04 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-app-specific-attr-16 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-core-problem-details-08 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions NONE 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9248 (Interoperability Profile for Relay User Equipment) [IANA #1232225]. o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9246 (URI Signing for Content Delivery Network Interconnection (CDNI))[IANA #1232482]. o Lars Eggert to facilitate an update of the document shepherd writeup form. o Lars Eggert to ask the Tools Team to push the global whitelist out to WG mailing lists again. o Murray Kucherawy to draft text for an IESG statement providing guidance about patch documents. o Lars Eggert to draft email about RFC8989 Path 1 for NomCom eligibility. o Warren Kumari to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https (Service binding and parameter specification via the DNS)[IANA #1232944]. IN PROGRESS: o Lars Eggert to follow-up on the management of the IETF non-wg mailing lists. o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 8809 (WebAuthn)[IANA #1229681]. UPDATED AND ON HOLD: o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in October 2022. NEW: o The IESG to look into adding a question to the post-meeting survey about extending the length of the meeting day during IETF meetings. o Lars Eggert to send email to Roman Danyliw about drafting text to working group chairs about side meetings. 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis-09 - IETF stream Recommendations for Secure Use of Transport Layer Security (TLS) and Datagram Transport Layer Security (DTLS) (Best Current Practice) Token: Francesca Palombini The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Robert Wilton.* o draft-ietf-ippm-rfc8889bis-02 - IETF stream Multipoint Alternate-Marking Clustered Method (Proposed Standard) Token: Martin Duke The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw, Lars Eggert, Alvaro Retana, and John Scudder.* o draft-ietf-ippm-rfc8321bis-02 - IETF stream Alternate-Marking Method (Proposed Standard) Token: Martin Duke The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw, Lars Eggert, Warren Kumari, Alvaro Retana, Zaheduzzaaman Sarker, Éric Vyncke, and Robert Wilton.* o draft-ietf-add-ddr-08 - IETF stream Discovery of Designated Resolvers (Proposed Standard) Token: Éric Vyncke The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Lars Eggert and Paul Wouters.* o draft-ietf-add-dnr-11 - IETF stream DHCP and Router Advertisement Options for the Discovery of Network-designated Resolvers (DNR) (Proposed Standard) Token: Éric Vyncke The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Martin Duke, Erik Kline, Robert Wilton, and Paul Wouters.* o draft-ietf-add-svcb-dns-06 - IETF stream Service Binding Mapping for DNS Servers (Proposed Standard) Token: Éric Vyncke The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Lars Eggert.* 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-shmoo-hackathon-07 - IETF stream Running an IETF Hackathon (Informational) Token: Lars Eggert The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement once Lars Eggert confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items NONE 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items NONE 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for approval o Transfer dIGital cREdentialS Securely (tigress) Area: ART (Roman Danyliw) The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for approval NONE 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 [IANA #1232944] Designated experts for RFC-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https (Service binding and parameter specification via the DNS) (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Ben Schwartz and David Lawrence as the designated experts for RFC-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https. 6.2 [IANA #1232482] Designated experts for RFC 9246 (URI Signing for Content Delivery Network Interconnection (CDNI)) (Francesca Palombini) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Phil Sorber as the designated expert for RFC 9246. 6.3 Suggested IETF 114 Sessions for Getting Familiar with New Topics (Greg Wood) The management issue was discussed. 6.4 [IANA #1233341] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-idr- segment-routing-te-policy (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy. 6.5 Impact of COVID 19 on the IETF - IETF Monthly Activity Report (Alvaro Retana, Warren Kumari, Rob Wilton) The management issue was discussed. 6.6 Working Group side meeting at IETF 114 (Lars Eggert) The management issue was discussed. Action item: The IESG to look into adding a question to the post-meeting survey about extending the length of the meeting day during IETF meetings. Action item: Lars Eggert to send email to Roman Danyliw about drafting text to working group chairs about side meetings. 6.7 Designated experts for RFC 9248 (Interoperability Profile for Relay User Equipment) [IANA #1232225] (Murray Kucherawy) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Brian Rosen as the designated expert for RFC 9248. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.