INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 11, 2022 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area 
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area
Qin Wu (Huawei) / IAB Liaison

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Zaheduzzaaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

OBSERVERS
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Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the July 14, 2022 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the July 14, 2022 Teleconference 
were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public 
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the July 14, 2022 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-sacm-coswid-22  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-lisp-6834bis-14  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-lisp-sec-29  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
o The IESG to look into adding a question to the post-meeting survey 
  about extending the length of the meeting day during IETF meetings.
 
 IN PROGRESS:
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in October 2022.
o Lars Eggert to follow-up on the management of the IETF non-wg mailing 
  lists. 
o Lars Eggert to send email to Roman Danyliw about drafting text to 
  working group chairs about side meetings.
o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 8809 (WebAuthn)[IANA 
  #1229681]. 
o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9258 (TLS KDF 
  Identifiers) [IANA #1234294].
       
NEW: 
 NONE 
        
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-rfc8229bis-07  - IETF stream
    TCP Encapsulation of IKE and IPsec Packets (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send an individual 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-sidrops-rpkimaxlen-13  - IETF stream
    The Use of maxLength in the RPKI (Best Current Practice)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Andrew Alston.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
 NONE
 
3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o NomCom Eligibility Update (elegy)
    Area: GEN (Lars Eggert)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to 
new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for 
the next IESG Teleconference (August 25, 2022).    
    
  o Media Over QUIC (moq)
    Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)
    
The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the text of the charter to be provided by Murray Kucherawy. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (August 25, 2022).    
    
  o Revise Universally Unique Identifier Definitions (uuidrev)
    Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)
    
The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the text of the charter to be provided by Murray Kucherawy. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (August 25, 2022).       
    
4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 Assigning AI -  [IANA #1234294] Designated experts for RFC 9258 "Importing External Pre-Shared Keys (PSKs) for TLS 1.3" (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 9258 was assigned to Paul Wouters prior to the start of 
the teleconference.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.