IETF/IEEE 802 Coordination Meeting, 2022-10-19 1. Welcome, roll call, agenda bashing Present: - Alvaro Retana - Carsten Bormann - Cindy Morgan - Donald Eastlake - Dorothy Stanley - Erik Kline - Glenn Parsons - Jodi Haasz - John Scudder - Lars Eggert - Martin Duke - Paul Congdon - Paul Wouters - Peter Yee - Rob Wilton - Roger Marks - Roman Danyliw - Russ Housley - Scott Mansfield - Warren Kumari Regrets: - Éric Vyncke 2. Action item updates In Progress: - 2022-06-21: Rob Wilton to send a liaison from the NETCONF WG to 802.1 about security coordination for draft-ietf-netconf-keystore. New: - 2022-10-19: Dorothy Stanley to forward Rob Wilton's email looking for a designated expert to help update the MAU MIB with new 802.3 media types to the 802.3 chair and ask for a recommendation. 3. MAU MIB Rob Wilton asked if there was anyone from 802.3 on the call who could help find a designated expert to help update the MAU MIB with new 802.3 media types. There was not; Dorothy Stanley will forward Rob's request to the 802.3 chair and ask for a recommendation. 4. IETF New Work summary https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/bofs/ - Computing-Aware Networking (CAN) Computing-Aware Networking (CAN) is a kind of network with dynamic traffic steering that considers both network resource status and computing resource status. - More Instant Messaging Interoperability (MIMI) More Instant Messaging Interoperability (MIMI) will work on interoperability between different instant messaging applications, including end-to-end encryption. - Secure Asset Transfer Protocol (SATP) Secure Asset Transfer Protocol (SATP) will develop a standard protocol which operates between two peer gateways for the purpose of transferring digital assets and data between an originator in the origin network to a beneficiary in destination network. - JSON Web Proofs (JWP) JSON Web Proofs (JWP) BOF proposes to reopen the Javascript Object Signing and Encryption (JOSE) WG to address some of the privacy shortcomings. Specifically, it will develop a set of companion specifications to the existing JOSE specs that are designed to support the privacy-enhancing primitives of selective disclosure and unlinkability. - Time Variant Routing (TVR) Time Variant Routing (TVR) will develop a common set of definitions, attributes, behaviors, and algorithms necessary to evaluate routing and forwarding decisions in the presence of planned loss and resumption of network connectivity. - RADIUS Extensions Reanimated (RADEXTRA) RADIUS Extensions Reanimated (RADEXTRA) proposes to reopen the RADIUS Extensions (RADEXT) WG to address the increasing conflict between the security practices defined in RADIUS and modern cryptographic requirements. 5. 802 New Work summary https://ieee802.org/PARs.shtml - 802.3df - Amendment: Media Access Control Parameters for 800 Gb/s and Physical Layers and Management Parameters for 400 Gb/s and 800 Gb/s Operation, PAR and CSD This project will define Ethernet MAC parameters, physical layer specifications, and management parameters for the transfer of Ethernet format frames at 800 Gb/s over copper, multi-mode fiber, and single-mode fiber based on 100 Gb/s signaling technology. The project will use this work to define derivative physical layer specifications and management parameters for the transfer of Ethernet format frames at 400 Gb/s. - 802.3dj - Amendment: Media Access Control Parameters for 1.6 Tb/s and Physical Layers and Management Parameters for 200 Gb/s, 400 Gb/s, 800 Gb/s, and 1.6 Tb/s Operation, PAR and CSD This project will define Ethernet MAC parameters for 1.6 Tb/s. It will also define physical layer specifications, and management parameters for the transfer of Ethernet format frames at 800 Gb/s and 1.6 Tb/s over copper, multi-mode fiber, and single-mode fiber physical medium dependent (PMD) sublayers, based on greater than 100 Gb/s signaling technologies. The project will use this work to define derivative physical layer specifications and management parameters for the transfer of Ethernet format frames at 200 Gb/s and 400 Gb/s. - 802.3dk - Amendment: Greater than 50 Gb/s Bidirectional Optical Access PHYs, PAR and CSD The scope of the project defines physical layer specifications and management parameters for symmetric bidirectional operation at greater than 50 Gb/s over a single strand of single mode fiber of at least 10 km. - 802.11bk - Amendment: 320 MHz Positioning, PAR and CSD The scope of this standard is to define one medium access control (MAC) and several physical layer (PHY) specifications for wireless connectivity for fixed, portable, and moving stations (STAs) within a local area. This project will define extensions to positioning mechanisms to support 320 MHz channel operation. 6. Review current coordination items - Item 5. Enabling use of Local Addresses for virtualization and IoT Donald Eastlake reported that draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis was adopted by the INTAREA WG in September 2022. Roger Marks reported that IEEE 802.1CQ was sent to the INTAREA WG in a liaison statement (https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1794/) in September 2022. Russ Housley said that at the next coordination meeting, the group should decide whether this coordination item needs to be kept open for 7042bis, or if it can be closed. - Item 25. Layer 2/Layer 3 Interaction for Time-Sensitive Traffic Russ Housley reported that the DETNET WG rechartered in July 2022 to cover flow identification and packet treatment, including, for example, forwarding, service protection, and queuing. - Item 27. Development of YANG models in the IEEE 802 Scott Mansfield reported that the IEEE 802 process includes publishing draft YANG modules to the GitHub repository that that provides the backend for yangcatalog.org. Rob Wilton reported that Cisco and Nokia are planning a draft on private candidate data stops to allow concurrent updates from multiple clients; he expects the draft to be posted in the next week or so. There is still not a project in 802 to work on an IEEE802.1AX YANG model, and the issue about common string formats to represent MAC Addresses in YANG modules remains open. - Item 33. Capability Discovery Alvaro Retana said that there is not much to report; the LSVR WG is waiting for the base L3DL spec to be finished before picking up the signing work. - Item 34. Reliable and Available Wireless (RAW) Dorothy Stanley reported that there has not been any luck finding reviewers in 802.11 for the RAW documents. Peter Yee said that he is planning to raise this in his liaison report at the 802 plenary. Russ Housley said that if there is no progress by the next coordination meeting, the group should discuss whether to close this item. - Item 35. MAC Address Device Identification for Network and Application Services (MADINAS) Dorothy Stanley said that the work on 802.11bh, and 802.11bi is still in the early stages, but they will be liaised once the drafts are ready to be shared. 7. Future meeting plans Russ Housley noted that he will give a short briefing on the activities of the IETF-IEEE 802 coordination group during the IAB Open Meeting at IETF 115. 8. Adjourn