RFC SERIES OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE (RSOC) June 11, 2014 Teleconference Reported by: Naveen Khan, IETF Secretariat Attendees: Nevil Brownlee Heather Flanagan (RSE, non-voting) Joel Halpern (IAB Lead) Tony Hansen Joe Hildebrand Bob Hinden Naveen Khan (Scribe) Alexey Melnikov (Chair) Ray Pelletier (IAOC Liaison, non-voting) Robert Sparks Regrets: Sarah Banks Minutes: 0. Agenda Bash 1. Minutes discussion / approval The minutes from the 14 May 2014 meeting were approved. 2. Administrivia Heather Flanagan will be in Oregon at the end of June, but will be attending necessary meetings during this time. 3. Status of the RPC Heather Flanagan reported that the RPC will not meet the SLA mark this month, with 67% of the documents edited in 6 weeks or less. Starting in July, the pace should return to what it should be. The status report can be found at http://www.rfc-editor.org/reports/ 3.1. New Editor Heather Flanagan reported that interviews are underway to find an additional part-time editor for the RPC. Training of the editor who was hired in May is going very well. 4. RSE Updates 4.1. Miscellaneous, backburner, and lower priority projects that included: 4.1.1. Errata Process Heather Flanagan, Sandy Ginoza, Alice Russo and Robert Sparks will discuss keeping the types of errata separate at IETF 90. 4.1.2. Author Support Joe Hildebrand mentioned that the IESG is wondering what more can be done in terms of author support, (i.e. is there a need for more funding and resources). Heather Flanagan replied that since this is a systemic issue, WG Chairs should also be involved in this conversation, and she will discuss this with them at the WG Chairs lunch at IETF 90. Joe suggested the RPC take this on for the purpose of leadership, not for ownership. Robert Sparks mentioned past ideas that have included workshops during, and in between, IETF meetings, and having scheduled time for people to come in at a help desk. Joe suggested having a technical editor come in and do some (paid) consulting work at editing. Heather noted that all of the RFC editors come to one IETF meeting each year, and this would be a good opportunity to have individuals sign up for one-on-one sessions with the editors. Heather also suggested starting a mailing list just for people to submit questions and comments about the clarity of writing. It was decided that Heather should spend a few cycles on this issue, and that additional funding and resources should be allocated to this project if needed. Robert suggested this should be a project that is incubated by the RSE, but should not be a long-term standing project. 4.1.3. Scholarly Reputation Heather Flanagan reported that changes and additions had to be made to the meta data for RFCs to get properly indexed in Google Scholar. This work is now completed, and Alice Russo will send a note to Google this week asking them to bump up crawling rfc-editor.org to capture the changes. 4.2. Format Project 4.2.1. XML Heather Flanagan mentioned that the RFC is in the last 20% of getting the v3 language complete. There is still work being done in the text of v2 and v3, but will largely be done by IETF 90. 4.2.2. HTML + CSS Heather mentioned that the main question is: is this set of requirements just a rendering tool, or is it for anyone that desires to have this type of profile of HTML? This will be discussed on the June 12 design team call. HTML is semantics-based, so it needs the CSS to be easier to read. A note was sent to RFC-interest for volunteers to design a prototype CSS. Heather has meetings set up with members from the W3C and a company called Crowd Favorites who will help figure out how to design this prototype. The goal is to have a prototype by IETF 90. Joe Hildebrand suggested asking about W3C's established HTML format. 4.2.3. EPUB Heather reported that the design team will look at this at a later date. 4.2.4. PDF Tony Hansen hopes to have something for the design team to look at by the June 12 call. 4.2.5. TXT Heather reported that after the June 12 design call, she will have a better sense of what this format will look like, since there are differing opinions at the moment. 4.2.6. Non-ASCII Heather reported that the text for this will not be changed at this point, and this is on the backburner for now. 4.2.7. SVG Profile Nevil Brownlee is working on a validation code for this. 5. SoWs Heather Flanagan asked when should the RSOC review the SoW. Heather suggested that when the RSE feels like they've reached a version of the SoW with the Tools Team that is ready to go out to the community, the SoW should be sent as an FYI to the RSOC ahead of time and allow a week or two for RSOC to provide comments. It would then go to the community for final review. The version with final comments should be sent to RSOC before it goes to the IAOC. Robert Sparks suggested adopting an "inform and advise" model with the RSOC in regards to SoWs. 6. DOI Heather reported that a statement of work to create the necessary automation to assign and register DOIs is under discussion with the Tools Team. While DOIs are greatly desired by many in the community, some of the requirements CrossRef has established for their use (e.g., requiring the use of the DOI URIs in the reference libraries for ALL documents, or external) have caused some consternation. So far, these are not showstoppers for the project, but they have increased the complexity of the project overall. 7. RSOC retreat, Saturday 19 July, 2014 7.1. Regrets: Bob Hinden, Robert Sparks 7.2. Agenda I. Selection of the RSOC Chair II. RSE Evaluation III. ISOC, the IETF, the RFC Series, and marketing/branding IV. Succession planning for the RSE role V. Project planning for 2015-2018 Heather Flanagan will draft a slide deck detailing all the agenda items. 8. A.O.B. Joe Hildebrand mentioned that the IAB may want more background on XML formatting. Heather Flanagan agreed to provide more background if requested by the IAB, which will either be coordinated by Joe or Joel Halpern.