RFC SERIES OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE (RSOC) July 20, 2017 RSOC Meeting Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Sarah Banks (Chair) Nevil Brownlee Heather Flanagan (RSE, non-voting) Joel Halpern Tony Hansen (remote) Bob Hinden Cindy Morgan (Scribe, non-voting) Ray Pelletier (IAOC Liaison, non-voting) Adam Roach Robert Sparks (Lead) Martin Thomson NOTES --------------------------------- 1. Approval of Minutes The minutes of the 12 June 2017 RSOC Meeting were approved. 2. Agenda bash An item on using HTTPS in citations was added to the agenda. 3. RPC SLA Heather Flanagan reported that the RPC met the SLA at Tier 2 for Q2 2017. Robert Sparks observed that it might be helpful for newer members of RSOC to have a walkthrough of how the SLA works at a future RSOC meeting. Heather agreed, and also said that she would send out an explanation of the SLA to the mailing list. 4. Projects 4.1. Format Heather Flanagan reported that the id2xml tool that converts the text of RFCs and I-Ds to XMLv2 files is currently in use but could use more testing. The xml2rfc v2 to v3 converter is currently being tested. Tony Hansen will update https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ experimental.html to direct bug reports to the mailing list. 4.2. Non-ASCII doc publication Heather Flanagan reported that the RPC is testing drafts with non- ASCII characters to see where the existing tool chain fails. Testing has shown that updates will be required for the RFC Editor database (Latin-1 to utf8mb4) and associated scripts. The scripts converting .nroff to .txt and .txt to .pdf would also need to be updated; after a brief discussion the RSOC agreed that updating those scripts now (before v3 is published) is not worth it; for the test documents, the RPC can use nroff as is an manually fix any characters that break. Special instructions would be given to the authors to check this carefully in AUTH48. Heather Flanagan will check with the IETF Trust about whether not generating PDFs with the tools will be a problem for these test documents. The SVG checker is expected to be released for testing before IETF 100. Bob Hinden asked when authors will be able to start using the new toolsets. Heather Flanagan replied that the v3 toolsets are expected to be in production at the middle of next year. 5. RPC Programmer update Heather Flanagan reported that the RPC programmer has set up the v3 test page and made various internal updates and bug fixes. Future projects include v3 errata updates, database updates for non-ASCII characters, and working on the RFC 10K issue. Robert Sparks noted that getting the RPC code base into the public repository has been tracked informally, and asked that this be added to the project list. Robert suggested that the Taint extension for PHP could help fix some of the form insertion attacks. Heather will follow up with the programmer about this. 6. IRTF open access journal possibilities Heather Flanagan reported that she met with Allison Mankin (IRTF Chair) to discuss IRTF publications outside of the RFC Series. The IRTF is considering starting an academic journal. Heather noted that such a journal would be outside the scope of work for the RPC; RSOC suggested that this topic be added to a future IAB agenda in order to get more information. 7. IESG author statement The IESG is considering a statement on the number of authors allowed in an RFC. Some of the proposed changes would impact RPC tools. Heather Flanagan noted that the proposed statement is expected to go out for community comment; the RSOC agreed to note the impact on the RFC tools during the comment period. 8. Use of HTTPS in RFC References Bob Hinden asked about the status of using HTTPS in RFC references. Heather Flanagan replied that the citation libraries need to be updated to use HTTPS instead of HTTP. The citation libraries also need to be updated for a handful of other things.