RFC SERIES OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE (RSOC) May 7, 2018 RSOC Meeting Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Heather Flanagan (RSE, non-voting) Joel Halpern Tony Hansen Bob Hinden Cindy Morgan (Scribe, non-voting) Adam Roach Robert Sparks (Lead) Portia Wenze-Danley REGRETS --------------------------------- Sarah Banks (Chair) Martin Thomson MINUTES --------------------------------- 0. Review of minutes The minutes of the 12 April 2018 RSOC meeting were approved. 1. Format work update Heather Flanagan reported that the RPC is currently testing the rfc- xmldiff, svgcheck, and rfclint tools. Some of the tools the RPC has used for decades might have to run differently than they have in the past in order to account for changes in character sets and workflow. The current planning timeline is available at . Robert Sparks reported that the v3 PublicationFormatter should be out shortly. Nevil Brownlee noted that the version of SVG that has been decided on does not allow markers. Robert Sparks asked Nevil to start a thread about that on the tools-development list. 2. IAB and RSOC changes Robert Sparks reported that the IAB recently had discussion about how to manage the RSOC membership going forward. The plan being discussed has the IAB sending out a call for nominations and asking any current RSOC members who are interested in remaining to respond to that call for nominations. The proposed timeline has the IAB doing interviews in Montreal with the appointments being finalized a few weeks after that. Joel Halpern noted that the RSOC should wait to hold their retreat and chair elections until after the new RSOC is seated. 3. Changes to the IS stream Heather Flanagan reported that the IAB spent time at their recent retreat talking about the RFC stream structure, in particular the Independent Submission stream. Martin Thomson has a draft (not yet posted to the Internet-Drafts repository) that outlines how the stream is currently being used and how it might be used in the future. The Independent Submissions Editorial Board is not happy with the direction proposed in that draft, and discussions are ongoing. Heather Flanagan asked why the RSE and RSOC were not tasked to take on the question of the stream structure. Robert Sparks replied that the IAB is responsible for the stream structure, and in particular is responsible for the Independent Submission stream and the appointment of the Independent Submissions Editor. Joel Halpern observed that this topic comes up every 5-10 years. Robert Sparks replied that he thinks the conversation will play out a bit differently this time. Heather Flanagan asked if people should speak up as individuals, or if it would be helpful for RSOC to make a statement. Robert Sparks replied that for now, the conversation is happening amongst individuals, but it will need to be taken to the broader RFC community as it progresses. 4. RPC update 4.1 GitHub experiment The RPC is working with the authors, editors, and ADs associated with the TLS 1.3 and JSEP drafts on a limited experiment around the use of GitHub during AUTH48. The goal is to determine both the value and level of effort required when using a version control service during the final editing process of a document. The RSE will work with all parties to create a report at the close of this experiment regarding what was learned, and to inform future work around improving the AUTH48 process. 4.2 Format tool testing As mentioned in the Format work update above, editors are testing the new format tools. 4.3 C238 status Of the 10 documents in cluster 238 that have not yet been received by the RFC Editor, only one is still with the Working Group. The RPC continues to edit the documents they have during spare moments, but there will be a great impact on the editors' time when that cluster finally releases. 4.4 YANG module processes The RPC has been working to get the YANG modules properly in a state to be posted on the IANA site. There has been a lot of back and forth on getting the YANG tools to a state such that the YANG module can be properly extracted and submitted to IANA. This has been taking up a fair amount of RPC time. Adam Roach said that this was the first he had heard about this, and that the IESG may not be aware of the situation. Robert Sparks suggested that the RPC should push back on the IESG to only give them documents that are IANA-ready. 4.5 Staffing A new part-time editor has been hired to replace an editor who left at the end of April. Sandy Ginoza's maternity leave is scheduled to begin in June. 5. TC46 / SC9 Heather Flanagan reported that ISO TC46/SC9 has come back about standardizing RFC 8141 on the ISOC fast track, and says that the only way to do that is for the IETF to establish a Category A liaison with TC46/SC9. John Klensin is doing further research into the matter, and the IAB has been made aware. 6. AOB Robert Sparks suggested that it would be good to have a refresher on how the SLA works at a future RSOC meeting.