Minutes of the 2023-11-22 IAB Business Meeting 1. Administrivia 1.1. Attendance Present: Dhruv Dhody Lars Eggert (IETF Chair) Liz Flynn (IETF Secretariat) Wes Hardaker Mallory Knodel Suresh Krishnan Mirja Kühlewind (IAB Chair) Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager) Tommy Pauly Colin Perkins (IRTF Chair) David Schinazi Greg Wood (IETF Director of Communications and Operations) Qin Wu Jiankang Yao Regrets: Roman Danyliw (IESG Liaison) Cullen Jennings Alvaro Retana Sally Wentworth (ISOC Liaison) Christopher Wood Observer: Arnaud Taddei 1.2. Agenda bash and announcements An executive session on the Independent Submissions Editor appointment was added to the agenda. 1.3. Meeting Minutes The following meeting minutes were approved: • 2023-10-18 technical discussion - (draft submitted 2023-10-18) • 2023-10-25 business meeting - (draft submitted 2023-10-25) The following meeting minutes remain under review: • 2023-11-05 business meeting - (draft submitted 2023-11-09) • 2023-11-07 business meeting - (draft submitted 2023-11-09) • 2023-11-09 business meeting - (draft submitted 2023-11-09) 1.4. Action Item Review Done/OBE: • 2023-11-09: Mirja Kühlewind to submit the IAB's signature to the Joint statement of scientists and NGOs on the EU’s proposed eIDAS reform. • 2023-11-09: Mirja Kühlewind to send email announcing the IAB's signature of the Joint statement of scientists and NGOs on the EU’s proposed eIDAS reform. • 2023-11-09: Cindy Morgan to send the call for nominations for the ISOC BOT. • 2023-08-14: Mirja Kühlewind and Tommy Pauly to work on a technical plenary about data privacy. On Hold: • 2023-05-11: Suresh Krishnan et al to write a draft on limited domains. (Check back end of June 2023) • 2023-06-07: Dhruv Dhody and Mallory Knodel to track adding IAB review of proposed WG charters to the Datatracker. See https://github.com/ietf-tools/datatracker/issues/5849 In Progress: • 2022-07-24: Mallory Knodel and Mirja Kühlewind to draft a document outlining the architectural principles that the IAB thinks are important and need to be understood when considering Internet governance. • 2023-05-11: Dhruv Dhody to look at the last ~10 years of IAB Workshops and see if there were any concrete outputs. • 2023-08-23: Suresh Krishnan to draft a blog post about the E- Impact Program. • 2023-09-20: Mallory Knodel to incorporate final edits to "IAB Statement on Client-side Scanning" and send it to the IAB for a final review/approval. • 2023-10-04: Suresh Krishnan to draft a response to the NIST request for comments on U.S. National Standards Strategy for Critical and Emerging Technologies. • 2023-11-07: Chris Wood, Tommy Pauly, and Wes Hardaker to work with Hannes Tschofenig on a response to the Confidential Computing Consortium's liaison statement in response to the IAB Statement on Attestation. • 2023-11-09: Cindy Morgan and Liz Flynn to move the public IAB wiki to wikijs. • 2023-11-09: Cindy Morgan/Liz Flynn to post the M-TEN Workshop papers in the Datatracker and send a list of updated references to the workshop report authors. • 2023-11-09: Mirja Kühlewind to reach out to legal regarding design teams and contributions. • 2023-11-09: Wes Hardaker and Dhruv Dhody to draft a response to the Appeal of IESG appeal decision on Meeting Guidance. New: • 2023-11-22: Mirja Kühlewind to invite speakers from Thread Group to the IAB Open meeting at IETF 119. • 2023-11-22: Cindy Morgan to send a message to the identity-discuss list announcing that it will be closed on 2023-12-01, and ask people to continue discussions on the WIMSE and SPICE lists. • 2023-11-22: Cindy Morgan to post Mirja Kühlewind's email about the eIDAS letter as an IAB statement. • 2023-11-22: Greg Wood to update the IAB Social media guidelines based on the IAB's comments and work with Cindy Morgan to get the posted in the wiki. • 2023-11-22: Cindy Morgan to send a call for feedback on the Independent Submissions Editor. 1.5. IAB Document Status Update Datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/stream/iab/ • draft-arkko-iab-data-minimization-principle-05 I-D Exists, IAB stream IAB Shepherd: Mirja Kühlewind • draft-iab-m-ten-workshop-02 Sent to the RFC Editor: AUTH48 IAB Shepherd: Mirja Kühlewind • draft-iab-privacy-partitioning-03 Community Review ended 2023-11-03 IAB Shepherd: David Schinazi • draft-iab-ws-environmental-impacts-report-03 Community Review ended 2023-10-18 IAB Shepherd: Wes Hardaker • A Vision Statement for the Internet (Mallory, Mirja) 1.6. WG Chartering in Progress (Initial Charters Only) Datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/chartering/ • Detecting Unwanted Location Trackers (dult) Area: SEC Draft Charter IESG Telechat: (None) IAB Reviewer: Not assigned • Multiformats (multi) Area: ART Internal Review IESG Telechat: (None) IAB Reviewer: Qin Wu • vCon (vcon) Area: ART External Review IESG Telechat: 2023-11-30 IAB Reviewer: Tommy Pauly 2. Identity-discuss mailing list It has been announced that this list will close but not when. Cindy Morgan will send a message to the identity-discuss list announcing that it will be closed on 2023-12-01, and ask people to direct further discussion to the WIMSE and SPICE lists. 3. eIDAS announcement as statement Mirja Kühlewind sent an email to the ietf-announce list on November 15 announcing that the IAB had signed on to the eIDAS letter. Cindy Morgan will post this email as an IAB statement so it is easier to find in the future. 4. IAB Social Media Strategy Greg Wood presented an IAB Social Media Guidelines draft document and discussed details with the IAB. Greg Wood will update the document based on feedback from the IAB and work with Cindy Morgan to post the guidelines on the IAB wiki. 5. IAB Statement on Encryption and Mandatory Client-side Scanning of Content A small group will use the IAB meeting slot next week to do some editing on this document and bring it back to the full IAB for further discussion. 6. Executive Session: ISE Appointment This item was discussed in executive session. Cindy Morgan will send a call for feedback on the Independent Submissions Editor. 7. Executive Session: Appeal Response This item was discussed in executive session. 8. Next IAB Meeting The next IAB meeting will be on 2023-12-06.