INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the August 10, 2023 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) / Routing Area Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director Dhruv Dhody (Huawei) / IAB Liaison Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Transport Area Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area Paul Wouters (Aiven) / Security Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Lee-Berkeley Shaw Greg Wood MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the July 06 and July 13, 2023 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the July 06 and July 13, 2023 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the July 13, 2023 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-stir-messaging-08 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-httpbis-digest-headers-13 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions NONE 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Robert Wilton and Warren Kumari to report back to the IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in July 2023. o Lars Eggert to send email to the LLC about Letters of Invitation for Interim Meetings and Retreats. o Lars Eggert and Martin Duke to rewrite IESG statement to give more guidance about issuing LOIs for interim meetings. o One AD from each area to diagram their Area topology and send it to Martin Duke for collation. o Lars Eggert to ask the LLC to come up with a proposal on how we can support a pre-configured remote participation option inside meeting rooms. o Murray Kucherawy to respond to the email "RFC 1952: Any plan for a new extra field registry." o John Scudder to collect AD qualifications for NomCom. o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9122 on IANA Registry for Sieve Actions IANA #1275603]. o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 3326 on The Reason Header Field for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) [IANA #1278422]. IN PROGRESS: o Warren Kumari to follow up on a bis document for RFC 8126 regarding designated experts. o Roman Danyliw to open a Datatracker issue suggesting a feature to better signal individual contributions. o Lars Eggert to write an update to the Support Documents in IETF Working Groups statement. o Andrew Alston, Murray Kucherawy, Zahed Sarker, Martin Duke, John Scudder, and Jim Guichard to draft text regarding document authorship/editorship with regards to the number of authors listed. o Lars Eggert to facilitate a community discussion on priorities for IESG processes. o Robert Wilton to find designated experts for RFC 9390 (Diameter Group Signaling) [IANA #1275381]. o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 9393 on Concise Software Identification Tags [IANA #1275658]. o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9420 on Messaging Layer Security (MLS) [IANA #1276814]. o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9457 on Problem Details for HTTP APIs [IANA #1277796]. NEW: o Lars Eggert to draft a response to the appeal on the current guidance on interim meetings. o IESG to decide how to use the experimental Friday afternoon sessions at IETF 118. 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-pref-df-11 - IETF stream Preference-based EVPN DF Election (Proposed Standard) Token: Andrew Alston The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Warren Kumari and John Scudder.* o draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-12 - IETF stream BFD for Geneve (Proposed Standard) Token: Andrew Alston The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by John Scudder and Eric Vyncke.* o draft-ietf-idr-long-lived-gr-06 - IETF stream Support for Long-lived BGP Graceful Restart (Proposed Standard) Token: Andrew Alston John Scudder formally recused himself from the discussion. The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-uta-rfc6125bis-14 - IETF stream Service Identity in TLS (Proposed Standard) Token: Paul Wouters The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Lars Eggert.* o draft-ietf-bess-pbb-evpn-isid-cmacflush-08 - IETF stream PBB-EVPN ISID-based C-MAC-Flush (Proposed Standard) Token: Andrew Alston The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Andrew Alston confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-dnssd-update-lease-08 - IETF stream An EDNS(0) option to negotiate Leases on DNS Updates (Proposed Standard) Token: Éric Vyncke The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Eric Vyncke confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-23 - IETF stream Service Registration Protocol for DNS-Based Service Discovery (Proposed Standard) Token: Éric Vyncke The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw and Paul Wouters.* o draft-ietf-lamps-caa-issuemail-06 - IETF stream Certification Authority Authorization (CAA) Processing for Email Addresses (Proposed Standard) Token: Roman Danyliw The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-teas-rfc3272bis-26 - IETF stream Overview and Principles of Internet Traffic Engineering (Informational) Token: John Scudder The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices-22 - IETF stream A Framework for IETF Network Slices (Informational) Token: John Scudder The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Paul Wouters.* The document will return on the next teleconference (August 24, 2023). 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items o draft-gutmann-testkeys-04 - IETF stream Standard PKC Test Keys (Informational) Token: Paul Wouters The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Paul Wouters. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement. 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items o conflict-review-irtf-icnrg-icntraceroute-00 IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-icnrg-icntraceroute draft-irtf-icnrg-icntraceroute-10 ICN Traceroute Protocol Specification (IRTF: Experimental) Token: Lars Eggert The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that includes a conflict review response prepared by Lars Eggert. 3.4.2 Returning items o conflict-review-irtf-icnrg-icnping-00 IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-icnrg-icnping draft-irtf-icnrg-icnping-10 ICN Ping Protocol Specification (IRTF: Experimental) Token: Éric Vyncke The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that includes a conflict review response prepared by Eric Vyncke. 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review o Key Transparency (keytrans) Area: SEC (Roman Danyliw) The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Eric Vyncke.* 4.1.2 Proposed for approval NONE 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for approval NONE 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 [IANA #1276814] Designated experts for RFC 9420 (Messaging Layer Security (MLS)) (IANA) The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated experts for RFC 9420 was assigned to Paul Wouters prior to the start of the teleconference. 6.2 [IANA #1275603] Designated experts for RFC 9122 on IANA Registry for Sieve Actions (Murray Kucherawy) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Alexey Melnikov and Ken Murchison as the designated expert for RFC 9122 (IANA Registry for Sieve Actions). 6.3 Management item for DTN registry statement (Erik Kline and Zahed Sarker) The management issue was deferred to the next IESG teleconference (August 24, 2023). 6.4 Starting a Community Discussion on Priorities for IESG Processes (Lars Eggert) The management issue was discussed. 6.5 Appeal Discussion and updated Statement (Martin Duke and Lars Eggert) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the revised Guidance on Hybrid and Online Interim Meetings. Action item: Lars Eggert to draft a response to the appeal on the current guidance on interim meetings. 6.6 Friday Afternoon Sessions for IETF 118 (IESG) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the experiment to extend Friday afternoon sessions for IETF 118. Action item: IESG to decide how to use the experimental Friday afternoon sessions at IETF 118. 6.7 [IANA #1277796] Designated experts for RFC 9457 on Problem Details for HTTP APIs (IANA) The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated experts for RFC 9457 was assigned to Murray Kucherawy prior to the start of the teleconference. 6.8 Downref in the Extra Last Call for draft-ietf-ohai-ohttp (Murray Kucherawy) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved adding RFC 9180 to the downref registry when draft-ietf-ohai-ohttp is returned to the RFC Editor Queue. 6.9 [IANA #1278422] Designated expert for RFC 3326 (The Reason Header Field for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Christer Holmberg as the designated expert for RFC 3326 (The Reason Header Field for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)), replacing Gonzalo Camarillo. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.