INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the October 5, 2023 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) / Routing Area Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area Dhruv Dhody (Huawei) / IAB Liaison Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Transport Area John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area Paul Wouters (Aiven) / Security Area Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Brendan McMillion Greg Wood Jeffrey Zhang MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the minutes of past telechats The minutes of the September 21, 2023 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the September 21, 2023 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The minutes of the BOF Coordination Call for IETF 118 were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the September 7, 2023 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-jsonpath-base-21 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-25 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis-10 (Best Current Practice) o draft-ietf-nvo3-bfd-geneve-13 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions NONE 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o John Scudder to update the NomCom instructions from the IESG with information about the ART/TSV merger. o John Scudder to follow up on the RSWG Chair appointment. o Martin Duke to draft an email to the community about the ART/ TSV Area merger. IN PROGRESS: o Rob Wilton to find designated experts for RFC 9445 (RADIUS Extensions for DHCP-Configured Services) [IANA #1279159] o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for draft-yee-ssh- iana-requirements-03 (Key Exchange Method Names) [IANA #1281831]. o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 9447, ACME Authority Token Challenge Types" [IANA #1281679]. o Warren Kumari to follow up on a bis document for RFC 8126 regarding designated experts. o Roman Danyliw to open a Datatracker issue suggesting a feature to better signal individual contributions o Andrew Alston, Murray Kucherawy, Zahed Sarker, Martin Duke, John Scudder, and Jim Guichard to draft text regarding document authorship/editorship with regards to the number of authors listed. o Lars Eggert to facilitate a community discussion on priorities for IESG processes. o Lars Eggert and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC 4858, 2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document Shepherds (original statement October 2010), and 3) update the WG Chairs wiki to point to the new IESG Statement. o Warren Kumari to follow up with the tools team regarding removing the requirement of needing an author email for deceased authors. NEW: o Erik Kline to follow up with authors of draft-ietf-6man- rfc6874bis to schedule a conversation about the document. 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-evpn-aggregation-label-14 - IETF stream (MVPN/EVPN Tunnel Aggregation with Common Labels) (Proposed Standard) Token: Andrew Alston The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-ohai-svcb-config-06 - IETF stream (Discovery of Oblivious Services via Service Binding Records) (Proposed Standard) Token: Murray Kucherawy The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Murray Kucherawy. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-25 - IETF stream Federated Authentication for the Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) using OpenID Connect (Proposed Standard) The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Paul Wouters and Roman Danyliw.* 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items NONE 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items NONE 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items o status-change-lisp-eid-block-to-historic-00 (Move RFC7954 and RFC7955 to Historic) The IESG agreed to change the status of RFC7954 from Experimental to Historic and RFC7955 from Informational to Historic pending a final check to be completed by Jim Guichard. The Secretariat will send a Document Action Announcement. 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items o conflict-review-irtf-icnrg-pathsteering-00 IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-icnrg-pathsteering draft-irtf-icnrg-pathsteering-07 Path Steering in CCNx and NDN (IRTF: Experimental) Token: Erik Kline The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that includes a conflict review response prepared by Erik Kline. o conflict-review-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-02 IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10 IoT Edge Challenges and Functions (IRTF: Informational) Token: Roman Danyliw The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that includes a conflict review response prepared by Roman Danyliw. 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review o vCon (vcon) The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Lars Eggert.* 4.1.2 Proposed for approval o Key Transparency (keytrans) The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the addition of chairs to be provided by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o Structured Email (sml) The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Eric Vyncke.* 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 Designated Experts for the "Privacy Pass Parameters" registry (Paul Wouters) The management issue was discussed. This management item will be brought back when draft-ietf-privacypass-auth-scheme is approved. 6.2 IETF 118 Agenda Conflict Resolution (Secretariat) The management issue was discussed. 6.3 Subdomain for IETF Store (Greg Wood) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the subdomain store.ietf.org. The IESG also approved using forwardingalgorithm@ietf.org for tools team use. 6.4 [IANA #1281697] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-profile (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early allocations for draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-profile. 6.5 IETF GitHub organizations for non-WGs (Secretariat) The management issue was discussed. The IESG agreed that it would not create IETF Github organizations for non-WGs. 6.6 IAB Statement on Encryption and Client-Side Scanning (Lars Eggert) The management issue was discussed. The IESG will not co-sign this IAB Statement. 7 . Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) The IESG discussed draft-ietf-6man-rfc6874bis. Erik Kline took an action item to follow up with the authors for a discussion at a future meeting. ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.