[{"author": "Roy Williams", "text": "<p>Good morning Hannes</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:01:46Z"}, {"author": "Olle Johansson", "text": "<p>Afternoon!</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:02:46Z"}, {"author": "Olle Johansson", "text": "<p>I have nothing to add to the Frozen Fish use case...</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:05:11Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>The hackathon demo used Amazon QLDB Merkle Proofs.</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:13:50Z"}, {"author": "Raymond Lutz", "text": "<p>@Orie Steele is the paper you have on format for formatting data to allow checking of append-only log applicable.</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:14:34Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>I don't recall which paper you are referring too</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:17:47Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>Merkle Trees are a common building block for append only logs.</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:18:28Z"}, {"author": "Roy Williams", "text": "<p>I agree with Jon, and it should be covered in a later meeting.</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:19:12Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>We did add some postman tests during the hackathon</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:21:25Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>those would be good to focus on</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:21:34Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://scitt-community.github.io/scitt-api-emulator/\">https://scitt-community.github.io/scitt-api-emulator/</a></p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:22:12Z"}, {"author": "Roy Williams", "text": "<p>I or someone else from MS will be there.</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:22:27Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>I am here</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:27:17Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>I will be probably working mostly on receipts</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:27:29Z"}, {"author": "Raymond Lutz", "text": "<p>When is the next IETF meeting</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:27:33Z"}, {"author": "Roy Williams", "text": "<p>I will have to step away shortly and hope to drop back.  Meeting with our Legal team on another topic.  Toddy will represent me for now.</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:27:35Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>but I am happy to share some related work on policy languages</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:27:40Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p><em>lots</em> of draft editing...</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:28:01Z"}, {"author": "Roy Williams", "text": "<p>:thumbsup:</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:28:53Z"}, {"author": "Raymond Lutz", "text": "<p>IETF 117 San Francisco<br>\n22 Jul 2023 - 28 Jul 2023</p>\n<p>IETF 117 starts Saturday 22 July and runs through Friday afternoon, 28 July.</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:29:56Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>Pretty good summary of DIDs :)</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:31:44Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>Resolution is described here:</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:32:32Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-resolution/\">https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-resolution/</a></p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:32:33Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>(another community draft)</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:32:40Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>it is also commented on here: <a href=\"https://w3c.github.io/vc-data-integrity/#retrieve-verification-method\">https://w3c.github.io/vc-data-integrity/#retrieve-verification-method</a></p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:33:04Z"}, {"author": "Raymond Lutz", "text": "<p>Thx Orie for those refs.</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:34:11Z"}, {"author": "Raymond Lutz", "text": "<p>The tool we will have to test with will allow use within air-gapped network to create the data artifact(s) and then further allow this to be submitted to SCITT outside of the secure network.</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:39:05Z"}, {"author": "Dick Brooks", "text": "<p>Totally agree - the key MUST be trustworthy from a verifiable trustworthy CA</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:44:11Z"}, {"author": "Olle Johansson", "text": "<p>Who defines \"Trustworthy\" here?</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:46:22Z"}, {"author": "Olle Johansson", "text": "<p>IANA enterprise numbers :-)</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:46:43Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>there is also <a href=\"https://github.com/quartzjer/did-jwk\">https://github.com/quartzjer/did-jwk</a></p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:46:58Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>which is simpler and does not use multibase</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:47:05Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>multibase and multiformats have a none wg mailing list at ietf now... and are likely to eventually have a wg</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:47:28Z"}, {"author": "Raymond Lutz", "text": "<p>How does this square with keytrans</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:47:39Z"}, {"author": "Raymond Lutz", "text": "<p>i.e. the initiatives in the keytrans meeting</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:48:04Z"}, {"author": "Neal McBurnett", "text": "<p>Hi Folks! Many thanks to Ray for fixing my mistaken impression (once again) that Mountain Time is an hour earlier than pacific rather than later. My only excuse is that when I joined (at the right time) what I thought was the right meeting, it said that it had already ended, leading me to jump to the wrong conclusions despite all the other evidence. Time zones - always a challenge....</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:48:12Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>key trans is more like a transparency service that only stores keys</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:48:21Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>certificate transparency is similar but for certificates</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:48:53Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>scitt uses COSE cty header to accept different content types</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:49:08Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>not just certificates or JWK.</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:49:18Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>key trans is more like the \"verifiable data registry\" concept that DIDs and VCs have.</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:49:45Z"}, {"author": "Hannes Tschofenig", "text": "<p>Good to have you here, Neal (even late)</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:50:09Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>There are other people who want to do DIDs at IETF...</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:51:48Z"}, {"author": "Joey Salazar", "text": "<p>true</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:52:12Z"}, {"author": "Raymond Lutz", "text": "<p>That summary seems like we need to document it sounds good</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:52:38Z"}, {"author": "Raymond Lutz", "text": "<p>for our steps.</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:52:50Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>If you want to understand how this stuff looks like from APIs, we have the experimental implementation that focuses on IETF and OAuth standards... <a href=\"https://github.com/transmute-industries/did-transmute\">https://github.com/transmute-industries/did-transmute</a></p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:53:26Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>the hackathon demo I gave used did:web</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:55:28Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>in general did:web has the most adoptiong</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:55:34Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>JWK supports x5c,x5u etc...</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:56:01Z"}, {"author": "Raymond Lutz", "text": "<p>Sounds like exactly why we need standards and I hope you will summarize that description Orie so I can study it.</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T15:59:21Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://w3c.github.io/did-cbor-note/\">https://w3c.github.io/did-cbor-note/</a></p>", "time": "2023-05-08T16:00:07Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>you could use multibase, to encode a cose key</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T16:00:35Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>adding 2 experimental formats together usually helps improve interop ; )</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T16:00:53Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>(trolling)</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T16:00:56Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>There are proposals to transport cose keys in multibase elsewhere...</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T16:01:24Z"}, {"author": "Jon Geater", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://github.com/ietf-wg-scitt/draft-ietf-scitt-architecture/blob/main/draft-ietf-scitt-architecture.md\">https://github.com/ietf-wg-scitt/draft-ietf-scitt-architecture/blob/main/draft-ietf-scitt-architecture.md</a></p>", "time": "2023-05-08T16:03:32Z"}, {"author": "Jon Geater", "text": "<p>@joey that's where the arch doc lives</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T16:03:45Z"}, {"author": "Raymond Lutz", "text": "<p>thank you</p>", "time": "2023-05-08T16:04:25Z"}]