Meetecho:
https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?group=cc6fec51-aa51-46d7-9d9b-ac5bec286bf2
Note we have 90 minutes instead of the usual 60.
See also discussion last time at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2024-cbor-04-202402211500/
Chairs update
Report on RFC editor status of draft-ietf-cbor-time-tag-12 (chairs?
CB?)
draft-bormann-cbor-yang-standin (esp. for more nm/ops audience): 30'
Goal: Discuss with wider audience
cbor-packed
Goal: Make state known more widely, decide next steps
draft-ietf-cbor-cddl-modules finalization and
draft-ietf-cbor-cddl-more-control comments
Goal: Present for consistent status; provide mini-tutorial to wider
audience.
other items from dispatch (possibly around Gordian and general
structures such as graphs)
CB presenting the landscape overview.
CB (p2): -time-tag in the RFC Editor's Queue; 3 ongoing WGLC until
Brisbane (EDN, CDDL grammar, CDDL more control). EDN is stable, in spite
of a few last-minute changes due to received feedback.
CB (p2): Here, I don't think we don't need to discuss things.
CB (p3): CDDL has "modules" project, which is nearing completion. Few
changes, but can't ship yet b/c sockets and similar constructs are not
supported yet (can not extend alternatives). Objective: Ready for
hackathon to prove that they are usable.
CB (p4): Four more drafts related to CDDL: -cddl-freezer, -cddl-2-draft,
-rfc-cddl-models, -cddl-csv. Not much to do there right now.
CB (p5): On EDN, extension points now defined in the new -e-ref. Then
-draft-numbers on both EDN and CDDL, for working on examples in Internet
Drafts while some values are not registered with IANA yet.
CB (p5): Everything up to here was "languages".
CB (p6): Now on to extensions, which use extension points.
CB (p6): There is also -packed-reference from CA, I think we should
discuss it in Brisbane.
CB (p7): applications of it for DNS and YANG. Also CBOR-related but not
in the CBOR WG: -intarea-rfc7042-bis and -core-href.
CA: What is the goal on -modules at IETF 119? Do you look for input or
confirm the status before WGLC?
CB: We should have a mini tutorial about the modules.
CA: Ok.
IMD (on chat): +1 to Mini-tutorial at IETF 119
CA: Do you plan to talk about e-ref (in the context of -yang-standin)?
There should be time for it.
CB: Not many changes since December interim where this was presented.
(Summarizing what e and ref do).
CB: The part of -draft-numbers about CDDL is already being considered
for draft-ietf-ace-oscore-gm-admin.
CA: So you don't plan to go through this in Brisbane.
CB: We do give overviews for people to help using CBOR, also thinking of
the -oscore-gm-admin document.
CA: With a 90 minute slot, I wonder if we split the meeting to have a
block dedicated for a tutorial, for example at the end of the session.
CB: It's Friday. But .au is far so people may not leave immediately.
When inviting, prefer to have externals at start.
CA: So we can start the session with a block overviewing things that are
possible in the CBOR ecosystem. The content on the modules might take
more time and transition into the second part of the session. Will
double-check with Barry, then we should be able to go for this.
CB: Oh, I missed the CDE cluster, but stable at this point in time (CDE,
dCBOR, backgrounder).
CB: On Gordian, don't expect that at the Brisbane meeting, it could be
for an interim meeting.
CA: I'll reshape the early-thought agenda based on the above and prepare
an official preliminary agenda. Any more topic to consider?
(none heard)
The proposed dates, keeping the same, even-week cadence on Wednesdays at
16:00 Berlin time (14:00-15:00 UTC) are: 3? and 17 April; (1 skipped
being May 1st), 15, and 29 May; 12 and 26 June; 10 July. We just need to
decide whether 3 April makes sense or whether it's too soon after IETF
119 and we should just start with 17 April.
Starting at April 17th.
CB: We have 3 ongoing WG Last Calls. Please send your comments.
CA: Focus on cddl-more-control.
Note taking: Marco Tiloca