INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the January 4, 2024 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) / Routing Area Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area Dhruv Dhody (Huawei) / IAB Liaison Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area Lars Eggert (Mozilla) / IETF Chair, General Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Incoming Operations and Management Area Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area Orie Steele (Transmute) / Incoming Applications and Real-Time Area Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Incoming Routing Area Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area Paul Wouters (Aiven) / Security Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Transport Area OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Deb Cooley David Millman Greg Wood MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the minutes of past telechats The minutes of the December 14, 2023 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the December 14, 2023 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the December 14, 2023 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-rats-eat-24 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-on-lag-06 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-sidrops-rfc6482bis-09 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2. Document Actions NONE 1.3 Review of Action Items IN PROGRESS: o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 9447, ACME Authority Token Challenge Types" [IANA #1281679]. o Robert Wilton to find designated experts for RFC 9487 (Export of Segment Routing over IPv6 Information in IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX))[IANA #1287238]. o Robert Wilton to find designated experts for RFC 9456 (Updates to the TLS Transport Model for SNMP)[IANA #1287239]. o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 9493 (Subject Identifiers for Security Event Tokens) o Warren Kumari to follow up on a bis document for RFC 8126 regarding designated experts. o Andrew Alston to email the RSWG regarding document authorship/ editorship with regards to the number of authors listed. o Lars Eggert and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC 4858, 2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document Shepherds (original statement October 2010), and 3) update the WG Chairs wiki to point to the new IESG Statement. o Francesca Palombini to review and merge updates to the wiki page "Getting a Document on the Agenda." 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-oam-14 - IETF stream Operations, Administration and Maintenance (OAM) for Deterministic Networks (DetNet) with MPLS Data Plane (Proposed Standard) Token: John Scudder The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw, Martin Duke, and Lars Eggert.* o draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-16 - IETF stream IP Fragmentation Avoidance in DNS (Best Current Practice) Token: Warren Kumari The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Martin Duke and Murray Kucherawy.* o draft-ietf-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc5798bis-17 - IETF stream Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP) Version 3 for IPv4 and IPv6 (Proposed Standard) Token: Jim Guichard The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Jim Guichard. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13-03 - IETF stream Updates for PCEPS: TLS Connection Establishment Restrictions (Proposed Standard) Token: John Scudder The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items o status-change-gost-dnssec-to-historic-03 - IETF stream Change the status of GOST Signature Algorithms in DNSSEC in the IETF stream to Historic (None) Token: Warren Kumari The status change remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw and Éric Vyncke.* 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-detnet-oam-framework-10 - IETF stream Framework of Operations, Administration and Maintenance (OAM) for Deterministic Networking (DetNet) (Informational) Token: John Scudder The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-lsr-isis-area-proxy-10 - IETF stream Area Proxy for IS-IS (Experimental) Token: John Scudder The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw and Paul Wouters.* o draft-ietf-detnet-pof-08 - IETF stream Deterministic Networking (DetNet): Packet Ordering Function (Informational) Token: Roman Danyliw The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Martin Duke.* 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items NONE 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items NONE 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 3.4.3 For action o conflict-review-spinosa-urn-lex-00 IETF conflict review for draft-spinosa-urn-lex draft-spinosa-urn-lex-21 A Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for Sources of Law (LEX) (ISE: Informational) Token: Lars Eggert The conflict review was assigned to Murray Kucherawy for RFC 5742 review. o conflict-review-farinacci-lisp-lispers-net-nat-00 IETF conflict review for draft-farinacci-lisp-lispers-net-nat draft-farinacci-lisp-lispers-net-nat-07 lispers.net LISP NAT-Traversal Implementation Report (ISE: Informational) Token: Lars Eggert The conflict review was assigned to Éric Vyncke for RFC 5742 review. 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for approval o Network Management Operations (nmop) The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Murray Kucherawy, Robert Wilton, and Roman Danyliw.* 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review o Messaging Layer Security (mls) The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Paul Wouters. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference. 4.2.2 Proposed for approval o Locator/ID Separation Protocol (lisp) The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Martin Duke and Roman Danyliw.* 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues NONE 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.