INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the August 22, 2024 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Deb Cooley (Department of Homeland Security, Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency) / Security Area Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area Orie Steele (Transmute) / Applications and Real-Time Area Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area Paul Wouters (Aiven) / Security Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Adrian Farrel Patrick Meenan Laura Nugent Behcet Sarikaya Kent Watsen Greg Wood MINUTES --------------------------------- 1.1 Approval of the minutes of past telechats The minutes of the August 8, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the August 8, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the August 8, 2024 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-wish-whip-16 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-rift-yang-17 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-extra-processimip-09 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-22 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-lsr-labv-registration-03 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-ietf-mops-treedn-07 (Informational) 1.3 Review of Action Items CLOSED: o Roman Danyliw and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC 4858, 2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document Shepherds (original statement October 2010), and 3) update the WG Chairs wiki to point to the new IESG Statement. DONE: o All IESG to review Non-WG List Review spreadsheet and note which lists may be ready for closure and any needed AD Actions. o Roman Danyliw to reach out to Dhruv Dhody to better track outreach initiatives. IN PROGRESS: o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9595 (YANG Schema Item iDentifier (YANG SID)) [IANA #1369452]. o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9580 (OpenPGP) [IANA #1369457]. o Orie Steele to find designated experts for RFC 9581 (CBOR) [IANA #1372387] o Paul Wouters to write a proposal for handling IANA review mailing lists. o Orie Steele, Francesca Palombini, Murray Kucherawy, Mahesh Jethanandani, Warren Kumari to write draft of IESG statement addressing issue of credit in documents & the importance of capturing and addressing all comments as a necessary part of the consensus process, mostly pointing at existing advice. o Murray Kucherawy and Eric Vyncke to create a draft IESG statement about using 2119 language. o Murray Kucherawy to draft an IESG statement on use of Internet-Drafts to meet "specification required" in IANA registries. o Roman Danyliw to reach out Systers about the value of writing recommendation letters to employers. 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-netconf-http-client-server-23 - IETF stream YANG Groupings for HTTP Clients and HTTP Servers (Proposed Standard) Token: Mahesh Jethanandani The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Francesca Palombini.* o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-fast-df-recovery-10 - IETF stream Fast Recovery for EVPN Designated Forwarder Election (Proposed Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by John Scudder.* o draft-ietf-nfsv4-delstid-05 - IETF stream Extending the Opening of Files in NFSv4.2 (Proposed Standard) Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Zaheduzzaman Sarker confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis-06 - IETF stream Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming Queries (Best Current Practice) Token: Warren Kumari The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Warren Kumari confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-httpbis-compression-dictionary-14 - IETF stream Compression Dictionary Transport (Proposed Standard) Token: Francesca Palombini The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.* 2.1.2 Returning items o draft-ietf-ntp-interleaved-modes-07 - IETF stream NTP Interleaved Modes (Proposed Standard) Token: Erik Kline The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.* 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-34 - IETF stream Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) Extensions for Native IP Networks (Experimental) Token: John Scudder The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.* o draft-ietf-extra-imap-messagelimit-10 - IETF stream IMAP MESSAGELIMIT Extension (Experimental) Token: Murray Kucherawy The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Murray Kucherawy. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-teas-applicability-actn-slicing-09 - IETF stream Applicability of Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN) to Network Slicing (Informational) Token: Jim Guichard The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Jim Guichard confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-httpbis-zstd-window-size-02 - IETF stream Window Sizing for Zstandard Content Encoding (Informational) Token: Francesca Palombini The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Francesca Palombini. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items NONE 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items o conflict-review-li-arch-sat-00 IETF conflict review for draft-li-arch-sat draft-li-arch-sat-07 A Routing Architecture for Satellite Networks (ISE: Informational) Token: Jim Guichard The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response prepared by Jim Guichard. 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for approval NONE 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review o Routing In Fat Trees (rift) The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Gunter Van de Velde.* 4.2.2 Proposed for approval NONE 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 [IANA #1367916] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-safi (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewal of this early allocation. 6.2 [IANA #1372387] Designated experts for RFC 9581 (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) Tags for Time, Duration, and Period) (IANA) The management issue was discussed. An action item was assigned to Orie Steele. 6.3 [IANA #1366742] renewing early allocation for draft-ietf-idr-wide-bgp-communities (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewal of this early allocation. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) 6.4 Executive Session ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.