INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the November 21, 2024 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Deb Cooley (DHS CISA) / Security Area Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area Orie Steele (Transmute) / Applications and Real-Time Area Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area Paul Wouters (Aiven) / Security Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Greg Wood MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the October 17, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The minutes of the October 24, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the October 17, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the October 24, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the October 24, 2024 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-fast-df-recovery-12 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-rats-eat-media-type-12 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-rats-uccs-12 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-extra-6855bis-04 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-jmap-calendars-22 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ntp-interleaved-modes-08 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-payload-registry-05 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-ietf-extra-imap-messagelimit-10 (Experimental) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Erik Kline to find designated experts for RFC 9669 (BPF Instruction Set Architecture (ISA)) [IANA #1394753]. o Orie Steele, Francesca Palombini, Murray Kucherawy, Mahesh Jethanandani, Warren Kumari to write draft of IESG statement addressing issue of credit in documents & the importance of capturing and addressing all comments as a necessary part of the consensus process, mostly pointing at existing advice. IN PROGRESS: o Zahed Sarker to find designated experts for RFC 9653 (Zero Checksum for the Stream Control Transmission Protocol) [IANA #1378063]. o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9559 (Matroska Media Container Format Specification) [IANA #1385324]. o Murray Kucherawy and Eric Vyncke to create a draft IESG statement about using 2119 language. NEW: o Gunter Van de Velde to find designated experts for RFC 9666 (Area Proxy for IS-IS) [IANA #1394691]. o Roman Danyliw to work on adding a checkbox to the meeting registration system asking people to identify they are willing to serve as WG chair. o Roman Danyliw to prepare status changes or another way forward for the handful of obsoleted documents Pete Resnick emailed the IESG about on 2 Nov 2024. o Roman Danyliw to take a look at Datatracker documentation of document states and update as needed. o Secretariat to update non-wg list guidelines to include a link to IESG Statement on Disruptive Posting and detail on list moderation. o IESG to decide whether we are going to collectively agree to opt in to the RPC auth 48 Github experiment if authors are part of the github experiment. 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-ace-wg-coap-eap-11 - IETF stream EAP-based Authentication Service for CoAP (Proposed Standard) Token: Paul Wouters The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Murray Kucherawy, Francesca Palombini, Orie Steele, and Eric Vyncke.* o draft-ietf-lamps-header-protection-24 - IETF stream Header Protection for Cryptographically Protected E-mail (Proposed Standard) Token: Roman Danyliw The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-optional-10 - IETF stream Extension for Stateful PCE to allow Optional Processing of PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) Objects (Proposed Standard) Token: Roman Danyliw The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Roman Danyliw confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-nfsv4-layrec-02 - IETF stream Reporting of Errors via LAYOUTRETURN in NFSv4.2 (Proposed Standard) Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Zahed Sarker. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-cdni-capacity-insights-extensions-10 - IETF stream CDNI Capacity Capability Advertisement Extensions (Proposed Standard) Token: Francesca Palombini The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw, John Scudder, Orie Steele, and Paul Wouters.* o draft-ietf-suit-firmware-encryption-21 - IETF stream Encrypted Payloads in SUIT Manifests (Proposed Standard) Token: Deb Cooley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.* o draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-vendor-12 - IETF stream Conveying Vendor-Specific Information in the Path Computation Element (PCE) Communication Protocol (PCEP) extensions for Stateful PCE. (Proposed Standard) Token: Roman Danyliw The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Roman Danyliw confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items NONE 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items NONE 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items NONE 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for approval o Update to IANA Considerations (ianabis) The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the addition of chairs to be provided by Murray Kucherawy. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review o Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks (roll) The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o Source Packet Routing in Networking (spring) The revised charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw, Éric Vyncke, Zahed Sarker, and Gunter Van de Velde.* 4.2.2 Proposed for approval NONE 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 IANA JSON Web Token Claims Registry (Deb Cooley) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved removing John Bradley , and adding Filip Skokan and Nat Sakimura as the designated experts [Leaving both Mike Jones and Brian Campbell] for the JSON Web Token Claims Registry. 6.2 Adding DEs to the IPN Allocator registry (Erik Kline) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved adding Ed Birrane and Rick Taylor as the designated experts to the IPN Allocator registry. 6.3 [IANA #1394753] Designated experts for RFC 9669 (BPF Instruction Set Architecture (ISA)) (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved David Vernet and Alexei Starovoitov as the designated experts for RFC 9669 (BPF Instruction Set Architecture (ISA)). 6.4 [IANA #1394691] Designated experts for RFC 9666 (Area Proxy for IS-IS) (IANA) The management issue was discussed. An action item was assigned to Gunter Van de Velde. 6.5 IESG Statement on the "IESG approval" allocation policy [IANA #1397447] (John Scudder) The management issue was discussed. 6.6 [IANA #1384918] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf- ippm-ioam-data-integrity (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early allocation for draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-integrity. 6.7 [IANA #1384950] renewing early allocation for draft-ietf-bess- mvpn-evpn-sr-p2mp (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early allocation for draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-evpn-sr-p2mp. 6.8 Important Dates for IETF 124 (Secretariat) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Important Dates for IETF 124. 6.9 [IANA #1400018] Management Item: Acceptance of media type registrations from Trusted Computing Group (TCG) (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 6.10 De-assignment IANA port based on draft-boucadair-netconf- port-numbers (Zahed Sarker) The management issue was discussed. 6.11 Next Steps on DIEM and Deepspace (Éric Vyncke) The management issue was discussed. 6.12 Executive Session: Changes to the IANA CBOR Tags Registry (Orie Steele) The management issue was discussed in an executive session of IESG, Secretariat, and IANA Liaison. 6.13 Executive Session: Appeal Discussion (Roman Danyliw) The management issue was discussed in an executive session of IESG and Secretariat. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.