INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the December 5, 2024 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Deb Cooley (DHS CISA) / Security Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area Orie Steele (Transmute) / Applications and Real-Time Area Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area Paul Wouters (Aiven) / Security Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Luc Andere Burdet Loa Andersson Marc Blanchet Patrice Brissette Alper Kamil Demir Neeraj Malhotra Patrick Meenan Jorge Rabadan Alvaro Retana Ali Sajassi Kevin Smith Daniel Van Geest Greg Wood Zhaohui (Jeffrey) Zhang MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the November 21, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the November 21, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the November 21, 2024 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-topo-yang-20 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions NONE 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Zahed Sarker to find designated experts for RFC 9653 (Zero Checksum for the Stream Control Transmission Protocol) [IANA #1378063]. o Gunter Van de Velde to find designated experts for RFC 9666 (Area Proxy for IS-IS) [IANA #1394691]. o Erik Kline to find designated experts for draft-ietf-dtn-ipn-update ('ipn' Scheme URI Well-known Service Numbers for BPv7)[IANA #1402348]. IN PROGRESS: o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9559 (Matroska Media Container Format Specification) [IANA #1385324]. o Gunter Van de Velde to find designated experts for RFC 9681 (IS-IS Fast Flooding)[IANA #1403302]. o Murray Kucherawy and Eric Vyncke to create a draft IESG statement about using 2119 language. o Roman Danyliw to work on adding a checkbox to the meeting registration system asking people to identify they are willing to serve as WG chair. o Roman Danyliw to prepare status changes or another way forward for the handful of obsoleted documents Pete Resnick emailed the IESG about on 2 Nov 2024. o Roman Danyliw to take a look at Datatracker documentation of document states and update as needed. o IESG to decide whether we are going to collectively agree to opt in to the RPC auth 48 Github experiment if authors are part of the github experiment. UPDATED: o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9668 (EDHOC Authentication Credential Types) [IANA #1401194]. o Roman Danyliw to work with Secretariat to update non-wg list guidelines webpage. 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segment-18 - IETF stream EVPN Virtual Ethernet Segment (Proposed Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Gunter Van de Velde. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpws-fxc-10 - IETF stream EVPN VPWS Flexible Cross-Connect Service (Proposed Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Gunter Van de Velde. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-21 - IETF stream Extended Mobility Procedures for EVPN-IRB (Proposed Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Gunter Van de Velde. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-14 - IETF stream JWS signed Voucher Artifacts for Bootstrapping Protocols (Proposed Standard) Token: Mahesh Jethanandani The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Francesca Palombini.* o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-mh-pa-13 - IETF stream EVPN Port-Active Redundancy Mode (Proposed Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Gunter Van de Velde. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-pim-light-10 - IETF stream Protocol Independent Multicast Light (PIM Light) (Proposed Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Gunter Van de Velde. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-bier-php-16 - IETF stream BIER Penultimate Hop Popping (Proposed Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Gunter Van de Velde. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-pals-ple-13 - IETF stream Private Line Emulation over Packet Switched Networks (Proposed Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw, Francesca Palombini, and Zahed Sarker.* o draft-ietf-mpls-1stnibble-12 - IETF stream IANA Registry and Processing Recommendations for the First Nibble Following a Label Stack (Proposed Standard) Token: Jim Guichard The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Jim Guichard confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-httpapi-api-catalog-06 - IETF stream api-catalog: a well-known URI and link relation to help discovery of APIs (Proposed Standard) Token: Francesca Palombini The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Francesca Palombini confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-pce-iana-update-03 - IETF stream Update to the IANA PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) Registration Procedures and Allowing Experimental Error Codes (Proposed Standard) Token: John Scudder The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-lamps-x509-shbs-12 - IETF stream Use of the HSS and XMSS Hash-Based Signature Algorithms in Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure (Proposed Standard) Token: Deb Cooley The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Deb Cooley. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-lamps-im-keyusage-03 - IETF stream X.509 Certificate Extended Key Usage (EKU) for Instant Messaging URIs (Proposed Standard) Token: Deb Cooley The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Deb Cooley. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-03 - IETF stream SNAC Router Flag in ICMPv6 Router Advertisement Messages (Proposed Standard) Token: Erik Kline The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Mahesh Jethanandani.* 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-mpls-mna-fwk-14 - IETF stream MPLS Network Actions (MNA) Framework (Informational) Token: Jim Guichard The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement once Jim Guichard confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-v6ops-nd-considerations-08 - IETF stream Neighbor Discovery Considerations in IPv6 Deployments (Informational) Token: Warren Kumari The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Erik Kline.* 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items o draft-vandevenne-shared-brotli-format-13 - IETF stream Shared Brotli Compressed Data Format (Informational) Token: Francesca Palombini The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Francesca Palombini. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement. 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items NONE 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review o AI Preferences (aipref) The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference on December 19, 2024. 4.1.2 Proposed for approval NONE 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for approval NONE 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 [IANA #1402348] Designated experts for draft-ietf-dtn-ipn- update (Erik Kline and IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Ed Birrane (edward.birrane@jhuapl.edu), Rick Taylor (rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com), and Brian Sipos (brian.sipos+ietf@gmail.com) as the designated experts for draft-ietf-dtn-ipn-update. 6.2 Follow up for the Deepspace BoF (Eric Vyncke) The management issue was discussed. 6.3 [IANA #1403302] Designated experts for RFC 9681 (IS-IS Fast Flooding) (IANA) The management issue was discussed. An action item was assigned to Gunter Van de Velde. 6.4 [IANA #1401194] Designated experts for RFC 9668 (EDHOC Authentication Credential Types) (IANA) The management issue was discussed. An action item was reassigned from Francesca Palombini to Paul Wouters. 6.5 [IANA #1397959] renewing early allocation for draft-ietf-idr- entropy-label (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early allocation for draft-ietf-idr-entropy-label. 6.6 [IANA #1378063] Designated experts for RFC 9653 The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Michael Tuexen (tuexen@fh-muenster.de) and Magnus Westerlund (magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com) as the designated experts for RFC 9653 (Zero Checksum for the Stream Control Transmission Protocol). 6.7 [IANA #1394691] Designated experts for RFC 9666 (Area Proxy for IS-IS) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Hannes Gredler (hannes@gredler.at), Les Ginsberg (ginsberg@cisco.com), and Christian Hopps (chopps@chopps.org) as the designated experts for RFC 9666 (Area Proxy for IS-IS). 6.8 Executive Session (Paul Wouters) The management issue was discussed in an executive session with ADs, Secretariat, and Tommy Pauly (IAB Chair) present. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.