[{"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "<p>when in doubt reboot</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:01:04Z"}, {"author": "Christine Fossaceca", "text": "<p>Hmm i switched to chrome and its still not working</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:02:03Z"}, {"author": "Christine Fossaceca", "text": "<p>is there a desktop client available instead of the browser?</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:02:27Z"}, {"author": "Brent Ledvina", "text": "<p>FYI, I have a hard stop at 9:30 AM PT</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:07:54Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "<p>in like 30 min?</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:08:14Z"}, {"author": "Mirja K\u00fchlewind", "text": "<p>there is no desktop client. Did the window to request permission scome up?</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:12:27Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://github.com/ietf-wg-dult/threat-model/pull/102/files\">https://github.com/ietf-wg-dult/threat-model/pull/102/files</a></p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:12:27Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "<p>You can pop the window out, so you get a bigger view...</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:13:14Z"}, {"author": "Christine Fossaceca", "text": "<p>I think meeting virtually more frequently is better</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:17:08Z"}, {"author": "Christine Fossaceca", "text": "<p>Agreed</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:17:51Z"}, {"author": "Christine Fossaceca", "text": "<p>great point maggie</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:17:59Z"}, {"author": "Christine Fossaceca", "text": "<p>I think scenario #2 was addressed by Eva and the EFF where we value people over property and allow the item to be disabled.</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:23:02Z"}, {"author": "Brent Ledvina", "text": "<p>You mean Scenario #3, correct?</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:28:12Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "<p>We should save like 5m at the end of the session to talk about our next meeting.</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:35:08Z"}, {"author": "Drew Williams", "text": "<p>I need to drop. Thanks all.</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:35:17Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "<p>Thanks for dialing in Drew!</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:35:29Z"}, {"author": "Brent Ledvina", "text": "<p>Need to run. Will read notes and follow up with others afterward.</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:35:57Z"}, {"author": "Christine Fossaceca", "text": "<p>I think Apple has specifically said that AirTags are not anti-theft tools</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:46:31Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "<p>Agreed. I think it's in the ULA :)</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:46:49Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "<p>The point I was making earlier is that you have to assume that the attacker is trying to disable tags.</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:52:51Z"}, {"author": "Corbin Streett", "text": "<p>Erica, I believe for the purposes of this workgroup, the attacker is a stalker.</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:53:26Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "<p>And that if you want to prevent that, then that needs to be enforced via information that is available at the tag.</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:53:30Z"}, {"author": "Corbin Streett", "text": "<p>Rather than a more traditional security threat actor</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:53:37Z"}, {"author": "Corbin Streett", "text": "<p>Eric*</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:53:52Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "<p>That's <em>one</em> attacker but not the only one.</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:53:53Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "<p>I don't think it would be acceptable, for instance, to build a system where a single attacker could bring down the entire system.</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:54:29Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "<p>cheaply.</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:54:39Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "<p>2 weeks before, 1 week after</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:55:20Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "<p>so before 7 July, or after the start of Aug</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:56:10Z"}, {"author": "Erica Olsen", "text": "<p>I'd be interested in joining for that conversation.</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:57:56Z"}, {"author": "Maggie Delano", "text": "<p>That would be great, thank you</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:58:04Z"}, {"author": "Erica Olsen", "text": "<p>Thank you all!!</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:58:10Z"}, {"author": "Corbin Streett", "text": "<p>Happy to join as well</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:58:11Z"}, {"author": "Maggie Delano", "text": "<p>Thanks!</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:58:17Z"}, {"author": "Christine Fossaceca", "text": "<p>thanks!</p>", "time": "2025-06-05T16:59:06Z"}]