haven't looked yet
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:07:18Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":joy_cat:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:08:05Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": "Merge the errata PRs! They don't require discussion. The other ones might.
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:08:41Z"}, {"author": "Cory Myers", "text": "Very glad to see the fix for erratum 7790, but I note that the text it corrects would be removed if the authenticated modes are removed by #19. :-)
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:09:26Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":raised_hands:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:16:06Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":+1:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:16:23Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": ".... lol
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:16:36Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":tada:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:17:14Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": "(it's so nice to see a WG work ..... I miss that)
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:18:19Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "I'd like to see single-stage stuff use a different name so that people can continue to map the psuedo-code directly to their API
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:18:55Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": "oh that's a good point rich ,they have the same names and function sigantures
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:19:40Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": "@Cory can you say which implementation you're referring to?
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:20:28Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": "Thanks!
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:20:51Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "@Rich - Suggestions for naming conventions welcome
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:21:00Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": "i added a comment on this on PR #16
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:21:22Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": "+1 to move this to extension work after rechartering
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:22:39Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": "(@Deirdre had suggestions for extensions that could also get folded in if we go down that route)
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:22:57Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":+1:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:23:13Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": "https://github.com/hpkewg/hpke/pull/16/files#r2132490496
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:23:29Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "good to take out unused stuff
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:23:46Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":laughing:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:24:03Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": "yeah
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:24:16Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": "@Stephen what other stuff did you want to see removed? (Just curious)
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:25:20Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "forget:-)
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:25:29Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "One shot? because that's API and used a lot.
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:25:59Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "@richardbarnes, append \"1S\" to conflicting API's
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:26:04Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "yeah i think Auth modes are the main unused thing
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:26:51Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "what uses PSK mode?
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:27:12Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "(jsut curious)
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:27:23Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "TurboSHAKE also just sounds cool
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:28:59Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "sounds cool != reason to add though, cool is not adding
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:29:19Z"}, {"author": "Paul Wouters", "text": "reminds me of the 80s TurboPascal :P
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:29:20Z"}, {"author": "Quynh Dang", "text": "it is in the editor queue
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:32:14Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": "https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-kangarootwelve/
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:32:17Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": "Since 2017...
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:32:31Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":skull:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:32:39Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": "That's, uh, a bit long
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:32:45Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "not so turbo
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:32:48Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "editor's queue is good
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:32:52Z"}, {"author": "Yaroslav Rosomakho", "text": "I believe TurboSHAKE is supported in PyCryptodome
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:33:01Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":dancer:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:33:44Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":chains:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:35:56Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "independent groups, capable of independent decisions, comprised of the same people
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:36:15Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "and here I was trying very hard to be quiet
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:36:31Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":person_standing::woman_standing::man_standing:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:36:37Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "And an agreement w/ the CFRG chairs to be as matchy matchy as is possible.
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:36:58Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": "+1
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:38:34Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": "(To the idea that these just be SHA-3)
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:38:58Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "@Deb - the CFRG doc author team includes both me and Deirdre, so as Martin said, it's all the same folks
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:38:59Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": "i shall continue to read Cnsa 2.0 closely that they don't like hybrids...
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:39:06Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":+1:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:39:21Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":joy_cat:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:40:28Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "does anyone really need SHA-2?
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:41:08Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "As I understand it, you can't avoid SHA-3 entirely with these, because MLKEM has SHA-3 inside, right?
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:42:14Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": "Yeah
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:42:31Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": "it is inside ML-KEM, and may not be exposed to the general library
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:42:37Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": "But sometimes libraries don't expose SHA-3 (like BoringSSL)
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:42:42Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Wood", "text": "(But in this case, BoringSSL would just implement the KEM with SHA-3 underneath its HPKE abstraction)
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:43:00Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":+1:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:43:59Z"}, {"author": "Joseph Salowey", "text": "+! to avoid the discussion
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:44:36Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "^ +1
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:44:47Z"}, {"author": "Martin Schanzenbach", "text": "I dont think the non-hybrids should be in the document tbh. They can be assigned code points later for those specific use cases that require them
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:45:35Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "It coudl be those are exhausting 'cause the justification for pure PQ isn't good
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:46:21Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":melting_face: :atom:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:46:26Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "#
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:46:43Z"}, {"author": "Martin Schanzenbach", "text": "Im sorry bit this is not really a matter of faith or what you believe in.
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:46:44Z"}, {"author": "Martin Schanzenbach", "text": "If you want to sidestep the problem then putting PQ only in is exactly what should not be done.
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:47:18Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "even i wasn't asking to omit pure entirely
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:49:35Z"}, {"author": "Martin Schanzenbach", "text": "sorry nvm im on baby duty cant talk right now
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:50:09Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "I'd like a recommended = n or the moral equivalent
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:50:14Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "There is no Recommended column
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:50:46Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "yes, and I'd like one:-)
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:50:56Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "i would not
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:51:02Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "I got that, yep:-)
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:51:15Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": "i would also not (looking at TLS experience)
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:51:18Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "Recommended is a bikeshed paint shop
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:51:34Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "I keep my bikes in my house....
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:52:09Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "calling something a bikeshed is content-free disparaging isn't it?
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:52:24Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "NSS has a separate HPKE API
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:54:35Z"}, {"author": "Yaroslav Rosomakho", "text": "This is what tends to happen today. With few exceptions such as TypeScript HPKE is typically provided at the same level as crypto primitives.
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:55:18Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":+1:
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:56:59Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "It's three in the morning for me. Energy is not abundant.
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:56:59Z"}, {"author": "Martin Schanzenbach", "text": "yes
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:57:01Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": "you do?
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:57:13Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "Have to drop for a work call..
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:58:23Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "https://github.com/hpkewg/hpke/issues/17
", "time": "2025-06-06T16:59:08Z"}, {"author": "Michael Jones", "text": "I commented in the issue
", "time": "2025-06-06T17:01:49Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":dotted_line_face:
", "time": "2025-06-06T17:05:40Z"}, {"author": "Deirdre Connolly", "text": ":tada:
", "time": "2025-06-06T17:05:50Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "sleep well MT
", "time": "2025-06-06T17:05:51Z"}]