INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the January 23, 2025 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Deb Cooley (DHS CISA) / Security Area Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Jean Mahoney (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area Paul Wouters (Aiven) / Security Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison Orie Steele (mesur.io) / Applications and Real-Time Area Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Mike Bishop Sandy Ginoza Greg Wood MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the January 9, 2025 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the January 9, 2025 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the January 9, 2025 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-jmap-webpush-vapid-10 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-radext-tls-psk-12 (Best Current Practice) o draft-ietf-anima-jws-voucher-16 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-acme-onion-07 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-lamps-cms-sphincs-plus-19 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-regext-epp-ttl-18 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-lamps-rfc6712bis-10 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-optional-13 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-vendor-13 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-lamps-header-protection-25 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-lamps-cert-binding-for-multi-auth-06 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-cbor-cddl-more-control-08 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-rivest-sexp-13 (Informational) o draft-ietf-pquip-pqt-hybrid-terminology-06 (Informational) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Roman Danyliw to work with Secretariat to update non-wg list guidelines webpage. o Deb Cooley, Roman Danyliw, and Francesca Palombini to review the ALLDISPATCH feedback. IN PROGRESS: o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9668 (EDHOC Authentication Credential Types)[IANA #1401194]. o Murray Kucherawy and Eric Vyncke to create a draft IESG statement about using 2119 language. o Roman Danyliw to work on adding a checkbox to the meeting registration system asking people to identify they are willing to serve as WG chair. o Roman Danyliw to take a look at Datatracker documentation of document states and update as needed. o IESG to decide whether we are going to collectively agree to opt in to the RPC auth 48 Github experiment if authors are part of the github experiment. 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-common-ac-15 - IETF stream A Common YANG Data Model for Attachment Circuits (Proposed Standard) Token: Mahesh Jethanandani The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Mahesh Jethanandani. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-opsawg-ntw-attachment-circuit-16 - IETF stream A Network YANG Data Model for Attachment Circuits (Proposed Standard) Token: Mahesh Jethanandani The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Mahesh Jethanandani. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-attachment-circuit-20 - IETF stream YANG Data Models for Bearers and 'Attachment Circuits'-as-a-Service (ACaaS) (Proposed Standard) Token: Mahesh Jethanandani The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Mahesh Jethanandani. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-opsawg-ac-lxsm-lxnm-glue-14 - IETF stream A YANG Data Model for Augmenting VPN Service and Network Models with Attachment Circuits (Proposed Standard) Token: Mahesh Jethanandani The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Mahesh Jethanandani. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items NONE 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items NONE 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items o conflict-review-fluhrer-lms-more-parm-sets-00 IETF conflict review for draft-fluhrer-lms-more-parm-sets draft-fluhrer-lms-more-parm-sets-17 Additional Parameter sets for HSS/LMS Hash-Based Signatures (IRTF: Informational) Token: Paul Wouters The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that includes a conflict review response prepared by Paul Wouters. 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review o Heuristics and Algorithms to Prioritize Protocol deploYment (happy) The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Zahed Sarker. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference after the conclusion of external review. 4.1.2 Proposed for approval NONE 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review o IP Security Maintenance and Extensions (ipsecme) The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Deb Cooley. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference after the conclusion of external review. o Link State Vector Routing (lsvr) The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference on 6 February 2025. 4.2.2 Proposed for approval NONE 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 Proposed changes to IANA CBOR Tags Registry (Orie Steele) The management item was discussed. The IESG approved updating the designated experts for the IANA CBOR Tags Registry to Christian Amsuss , Thomas Fossati , Francesca Palombini , and Carsten Bormann (backup) . 6.2 Acceptance of media type registration from Lottie Animation Community (LAC)[IANA #1411365] (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards- related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 6.3 Review telechat load for next few weeks (Roman Danyliw) The management issue was discussed. 6.4 Executive Session: Appeal to the IESG re WGLC of draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv The management issue was discussed in an executive session with IESG and Secretariat present. Gunter Van de Velde recused himself. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)