INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the February 6, 2025 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Mike Bishop (Akamai)/ Incoming Web and Internet Transport Area Mohamed Boucadair (Orange) / Incoming Operations and Management Area Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Deb Cooley (DHS CISA) / Security Area Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area Gorry Fairhurst (Univ. of Aberdeen) / Incoming Web and Internet Transport Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area Jean Mahoney (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Andy Newton (ICANN) / Incoming Applications and Real-Time Area Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area Orie Steele (mesur.io) / Applications and Real-Time Area Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco) / Incoming Routing Area Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area Paul Wouters (Aiven) / Security Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Antony Antony Marc Blanchet Francois Clad Nick Doty Sandy Ginoza Tommy Jensen Felix Linker Ronald in't Velt Mauro Vignati Greg Wood MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the January 23, 2025 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the January 23, 2025 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the January 23, 2025 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-lamps-rfc4210bis-18 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-30 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-51 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-cdni-capacity-insights-extensions-12 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-ietf-lsvr-applicability-22 (Informational) 1.3 Review of Action Items IN PROGRESS: o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9668 (EDHOC Authentication Credential Types)[IANA #1401194]. o Murray Kucherawy and Éric Vyncke to create a draft IESG statement about using 2119 language. o Roman Danyliw to work on adding a checkbox to the meeting registration system asking people to identify they are willing to serve as WG chair. o Roman Danyliw to take a look at Datatracker documentation of document states and update as needed. o IESG to decide whether we are going to collectively agree to opt in to the RPC auth 48 Github experiment if authors are part of the github experiment. NEW: o Erik Kline to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-ntp-update-registries (Updating the NTP Registries)[IANA #1412130]. 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control-17 - IETF stream Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Credit-Based Flow Control Messages and Data Items (Proposed Standard) Token: Jim Guichard The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Deb Cooley.* o draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-13 - IETF stream Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Traffic Classification Data Item (Proposed Standard) Token: Jim Guichard The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Deb Cooley, Roman Danyliw, Mahesh Jethanandani, Murray Kucherawy, and Paul Wouters.* o draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-20 - IETF stream DLEP DiffServ Aware Credit Window Extension (Proposed Standard) Token: Jim Guichard The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Mahesh Jethanandani.* o draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension-08 - IETF stream DLEP IEEE 802.1Q Aware Credit Window Extension (Proposed Standard) Token: Jim Guichard The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Jim Guichard. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-spring-srv6-srh-compression-23 - IETF stream Compressed SRv6 Segment List Encoding (CSID) (Proposed Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde Jim Guichard formally recused himself from the discussion. The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Gunter Van de Velde. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-safi-13 - IETF stream Advertising Segment Routing Policies in BGP (Proposed Standard) Token: Roman Danyliw The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-bw-con-20 - IETF stream Flexible Algorithms: Bandwidth, Delay, Metrics and Constraints (Proposed Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw and Mahesh Jethanandani.* o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-redundant-mcast-source-14 - IETF stream Multicast Source Redundancy in EVPN Networks (Proposed Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Gunter Van de Velde. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-38 - IETF stream Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Conformance (DMARC) (Proposed Standard) Token: Murray Kucherawy The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.* o draft-ietf-ipsecme-g-ikev2-20 - IETF stream Group Key Management using IKEv2 (Proposed Standard) Token: Deb Cooley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw and Paul Wouters.* o draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-rename-esn-03 - IETF stream Renaming Extended Sequence Number (ESN) Transform Type in the Internet Key Exchange Protocol Version 2 (IKEv2) (Proposed Standard) Token: Deb Cooley The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Deb Cooley confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items o status-change-ntpv2-ntpv3-to-historic-01 - IETF stream Status Change of NTPv2 and NTPv3 to Historic (None) Token: Erik Kline The IESG agreed to change the status of RFC 1119 from Internet Standard to Historic and RFC 1305 from Draft Standard to Historic. The Secretariat will send Protocol Action Announcements. 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items NONE 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items NONE 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items o conflict-review-irtf-nmrg-green-ps-00 IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-nmrg-green-ps draft-irtf-nmrg-green-ps-04 Challenges and Opportunities in Management for Green Networking (IRTF: Informational) Token: Mahesh Jethanandani The conflict review was deferred to the next teleconference (2025-02-20) by Paul Wouters. o conflict-review-irtf-cfrg-kangarootwelve-00 IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-cfrg-kangarootwelve draft-irtf-cfrg-kangarootwelve-16 KangarooTwelve and TurboSHAKE (IRTF: Informational) Token: Deb Cooley The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that includes a conflict review response prepared by Deb Cooley. 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review o Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference on 2025-02-20. o RESTful Provisioning Protocol (rpp) The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference on 2025-02-20. o Digital Emblems (diem) The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw and Paul Wouters.* 4.1.2 Proposed for approval o Taking IP To Other Planets (tiptop) The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the addition of chairs to be provided by Eric Vyncke. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o Heuristics and Algorithms to Prioritize Protocol deploYment (happy) The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the addition of chairs to be provided by Zahed Sarker. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for approval o IP Security Maintenance and Extensions (ipsecme) The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. o Link State Vector Routing (lsvr) The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 Final BoF Approvals for IETF 122 (All) The management issue was discussed. See the minutes of the IETF 122 BOF Call meeting for details. 6.2 [IANA #1412130] Designated experts for RFC-ietf-ntp- update-registries (Updating the NTP Registries) The management issue was discussed. An action item was assigned to Erik Kline. 6.3 IANABIS Scheduling at IETF 122 (Murray) The management issue was discussed. 6.4 Retreat Logistics (Cindy) The management issue was discussed. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.