INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the March 6, 2025 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Mohamed Boucadair (Orange) / Incoming Operations and Management Area Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Deb Cooley (DHS CISA) / Security Area Gorry Fairhurst (Univ. of Aberdeen) / Incoming Web and Internet Transport Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Jean Mahoney (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Andy Newton (ICANN) / Incoming Applications and Real-Time Area Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area Orie Steele (mesur.io) / Applications and Real-Time Area Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco) / Incoming Routing Area Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area Paul Wouters (Aiven) / Security Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Mike Bishop (Akamai) / Incoming Web and Internet Transport Area Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Sandy Ginoza Ari Keränen Jan Romann Peter Thomassen Greg Wood MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the February 20, 2025 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the February 20, 2025 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the February 20, 2025 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-oam-16 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-20 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-pce-pcep-color-12 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-dnsop-compact-denial-of-existence-07 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-acme-ari-08 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa-21 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-suit-mud-10 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-suit-manifest-33 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-admin-tags-29 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-mpls-p2mp-bfd-11 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-ietf-pim-jp-extensions-lisp-09 (Experimental) o draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ct-39 (Experimental) o draft-ietf-idr-cpr-08 (Informational) o draft-ietf-idr-bgp-sr-segtypes-ext-08 (Experimental) 1.3 Review of Action Items IN PROGRESS: o Erik Kline to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-ntp-update- registries (Updating the NTP Registries)[IANA #1412130]. o Roman Danyliw to work on adding a checkbox to the meeting registration system asking people to identify they are willing to serve as WG chair. o Roman Danyliw to take a look at Datatracker documentation of document states and update as needed. o IESG to decide whether we are going to collectively agree to opt in to the RPC auth 48 Github experiment if authors are part of the github experiment. o Murray Kucherawy and Roman Danyliw to find another chair for the IANABIS WG. o Murray Kucherawy and Eric Vyncke to create a draft IESG statement about using 2119 language. NEW: o Mahesh Jethanandani to find designated experts for RFC 9740[IANA #1414246]. 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-roll-dao-projection-39 - IETF stream Root-initiated Routing State in RPL (Proposed Standard) Token: John Scudder The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. The Secretariat will add RFC 9030 to the downref registry. o draft-ietf-asdf-sdf-21 - IETF stream Semantic Definition Format (SDF) for Data and Interactions of Things (Proposed Standard) Token: Francesca Palombini The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.* o draft-ietf-tsvwg-multipath-dccp-20 - IETF stream DCCP Extensions for Multipath Operation with Multiple Addresses (Proposed Standard) Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Deb Cooley, Murray Kucherawy, and Paul Wouters.* o draft-ietf-roll-rnfd-06 - IETF stream RNFD: Fast border router crash detection in RPL (Proposed Standard) Token: John Scudder The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-tsvwg-udp-options-42 - IETF stream Transport Options for UDP (Proposed Standard) Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw, John Scudder, and Éric Vyncke.* o draft-ietf-regext-epp-delete-bcp-09 - IETF stream Best Practices for Deletion of Domain and Host Objects in the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) (Best Current Practice) Token: Orie Steele The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Orie Steele. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-16 - IETF stream Advertisement of Segment Routing Policies using BGP Link-State (Proposed Standard) Token: John Scudder The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once John Scudder confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-dnsop-generalized-notify-07 - IETF stream Generalized DNS Notifications (Proposed Standard) Token: Warren Kumari The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Éric Vyncke.* o draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set-17 - IETF stream Deprecation of AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET in BGP (Proposed Standard) Token: John Scudder Warren Kumari formally recused himself from the discussion. The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once John Scudder confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-asap-sip-auto-peer-23 - IETF stream Automatic Peering for SIP Trunks (Proposed Standard) Token: Murray Kucherawy The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Mahesh Jethanandani and Orie Steele.* 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items o draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bis-10 - IETF stream Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA): Registry Restrictions and Recommendations (Proposed Standard) Token: Murray Kucherawy The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Orie Steele and Paul Wouters.* 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items NONE 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items NONE 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items NONE 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for approval NONE 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for approval o Bit Indexed Explicit Replication (bier) The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 [IANA #1412835] renewing early allocation for draft-ietf- anima-constrained-voucher (IANA) The management item was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early allocation for draft-ietf-anima-constrained-voucher. 6.2 Important Dates for IETF 125 (Liz) The management item was discussed. The IESG approved Important Dates for IETF 125. 6.3 [IANA #1414246] Designated experts for RFC 9740 (IANA) The management item was discussed. An action item was assigned to Mahesh Jethanandani. 6.4 Approve IESG Statement on BCP 14 language (Murray) The management item was discussed. 6.5 Reminder: topics for IETF 122 IESG meetings (Liz) The management item was discussed. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.