lamsp of course hasn't quite landed on the final answer yet or did I miss that?
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:09:00Z"}, {"author": "Falko Strenzke", "text": "You are right Stephen, but it seems clear at this point that LAMPS doesn't want to stay with the seed-only format. (But no formal decision yet)
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:09:54Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "right, that matches my (partial) reading of the many many mails on that
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:10:19Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "I guess the point is there's a tension between being pq-safe and some use-cases?
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:19:54Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "furthermore, \u00a78.1 says \"prefer PQ\", without saying \"when encrypting\". so that implies \"prefer PQ\" when signing and/or verifying
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:20:53Z"}, {"author": "Falko Strenzke", "text": "I personnally think that we can remove any statements regarding trust models from the draft. Like Daniel H. suggests, putting this into another draft might be a good idea.
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:22:21Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Gallagher", "text": "We should definitely warn of the consequences of encrypting to keys of different security properties.
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:23:05Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "Seems like a fine WGLC discussion to have: does the text tread the fine line well or not and what to do in general outside this draft?
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:23:21Z"}, {"author": "Falko Strenzke", "text": "@Andrew: that can be part of the security considerations.
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:23:28Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "can someone in this conversation volunteer to make a PR for this, so we have specific text to compare?
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:25:21Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "I don't have strong opinions but this and the recent thread smell a bit like a thing where people might wanna mull things over a bit rather than decide on this call - that fair/reasonable?
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:40:09Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "sure, but raising/explaining existing preferences here is a good thing.
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:40:54Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "yup
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:41:05Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "/me wondering (or have forgotten;-) - do we have a bunch of people who've said they wanna implement in that timeframe?
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:52:48Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "ta
", "time": "2025-02-10T11:54:07Z"}, {"author": "Neal Walfield", "text": "FWIW, I agree with limiting the scope as much as possible.
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:07:43Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "/me wondering who's brave enought to start a general trust models discussion/proposal...
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:08:12Z"}, {"author": "Neal Walfield", "text": "In particular in service of limiting complexity
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:08:15Z"}, {"author": "Neal Walfield", "text": "Only that I'm sorry I sent it so late
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:08:55Z"}, {"author": "Neal Walfield", "text": "I forgot that the meeting was today :)
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:09:04Z"}, {"author": "Neal Walfield", "text": "@Stephen Farrell: There's this document that I started: https://sequoia-pgp.gitlab.io/sequoia-wot/
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:10:22Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "Neal: do you want to put that in the datatracker?
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:10:41Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "is it something you'd want the WG to consider for adoption?
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:11:16Z"}, {"author": "Neal Walfield", "text": "@Daniel Gillmor: yes and yes
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:11:52Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "is \"trust models\" a topic where we'd want >1 input proposal before going forward?
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:12:10Z"}, {"author": "Neal Walfield", "text": "Unfortunately, I have very little time to work on this at the moment
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:12:22Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "time check: 10 mins to go
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:20:13Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "time check: 5 mins to go
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:25:05Z"}, {"author": "Neal Walfield", "text": "FWIW, PQC and this are in our (Sequoia's) pipeline for this year
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:26:42Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "time check: <4 miins left:-)
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:26:49Z"}, {"author": "Justus Winter", "text": "", "time": "2025-02-10T12:28:44Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Huigens", "text": "Thanks!
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:29:27Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Huigens", "text": "I might be there :) Not 100% sure yet
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:29:48Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Huigens", "text": "Bye!
", "time": "2025-02-10T12:30:05Z"}]