Using Chrome this time! Hope it helps!
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:01:50Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "I'm having audio issues. I'll be in and out for a bit.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:05:24Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Yay! Audio!
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:08:57Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "+1 to keeping it. good idea
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:09:29Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "(it = md)
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:09:34Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Yeah, no need to put a link to it on the \"official\" page. Just in a well-known place.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:12:31Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "Datatracker would be fine with me.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:13:07Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "I don't know that we \"don't want\" consumers to see them; we just think we don't think they'll be useful for the consumer.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:14:05Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "s/just think we don't think/just don't think
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:14:42Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "i regularly refer to the MD of existing RFCs. literally like 15min ago, to get a first draft of an IANA registry definition
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:14:51Z"}, {"author": "John Klensin", "text": "@Pete: I think I'm glad we don't need to resolve that question
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:14:59Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "@jck: ack
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:15:13Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "i'm a big fan of not deciding up front what will and will not be useful to the community.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:15:51Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "Richard's position is basically mine. I just think we should default to openness where there's not some reason to do otherwise
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:16:28Z"}, {"author": "John Klensin", "text": "While I don't see this in terms of openness of not (another whole discussion), I think we all all agreed on what should be done... even if I'd prefer to see it viewed as a little bit of an experiment.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:17:49Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "github is designed to do exactly this
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:18:09Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "FYI, here is an example of a repo configured in this way https://github.com/ekr/restricted-repo
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:19:37Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "(At least for the next six months)
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:19:44Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "see this link for the UX when you try to create an issue:
\nhttps://github.com/ekr/restricted-repo/issues/new
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:20:17Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "\"Transition\"
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:21:44Z"}, {"author": "Jay Daley", "text": "Can someone drop Ekr and Robert from the queue
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:25:34Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "I removed myself, sorry
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:25:46Z"}, {"author": "Jay Daley", "text": "thanks
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:25:59Z"}, {"author": "Paul Hoffman", "text": "I disagree with Ekr's and Richard's dismissiveness about the need for consistent tooling for the RPC.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:26:35Z"}, {"author": "John Klensin", "text": "@Paul +1
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:28:30Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "i'm not asking for inconsistency
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:28:46Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "i'm asking for incremental delivery
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:28:50Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "I was in fact the first person in the queue at this point
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:33:31Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Thank you Richard & Eric. What was frustrating me was questioning the timing without describing what the desired requirements in the short term were. This part of the discussion has helped me understand what you're looking for.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:41:25Z"}, {"author": "Paul Hoffman", "text": "+1 to what Pete said. I heard something very different last week and earlier today.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:42:01Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "I've only got one more quick thing I want to add, but am ready to move to the rest of the agenda (time check)
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:42:01Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Doing what you've just described in shorter order seems plausible.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:42:53Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "Pete, Paul, thanks for the feedback. We're trying to say the same thing, so perhaps over a drink Montreal we can post-mortem a bit and debug about why it seemed like we were saying something different
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:43:38Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "Thanks Pete
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:43:40Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "FWIW, I think RFC 10K is clearly more important than this
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:43:56Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "@ekr @richard: Ack, and an excuse to have a beer with you is always welcome.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:45:00Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "agree re rfc 10k, though they don't seem super rivalrous
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:45:12Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "everything's rivalrous if you don't have unlimited resources :)
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:45:49Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": "Yes, don't forget people who think that GitHub is a dark art. They need a process too...
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:46:05Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "sure. just meant that they affect different parts of the system
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:47:03Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "ack that.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:48:34Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "it's bad that we have ever considered XML an editing form
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:50:03Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "a mistake many industries made.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:50:22Z"}, {"author": "Jay Daley", "text": "Richard - I agree with hindsight but some people now really want it to stay as one
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:50:35Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "it was considered a great when marshall started it. but I agree now that markdown is much better. There's likely some future where there's something that's better than that even and we'll yell about markdown at that point :).
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:51:43Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "FWIW, here is an example of a repo where I managed Auth48 in GitHub https://github.com/tlswg/tls13-rfc
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:52:38Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "Actually, this is probably a bad example because it's a long time ago. I'll find something better
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:52:55Z"}, {"author": "Paul Wouters", "text": "now some ruby free dev tools and I'll join the bandwagon :P
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:53:33Z"}, {"author": "Tony Hansen", "text": "I could not add my name to the notes
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:55:11Z"}, {"author": "Jay Daley", "text": "Done for you
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:55:32Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "FYI, it's pronounced what-double-u-g :)
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:56:26Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "AUTH48 on MLS took a few PRs, you can see them at the top of this list: https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:56:47Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "Yeah, I was going to use that example, but a lot of what happened here was I was backporting changes from the RPC's XML
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:57:08Z"}, {"author": "Rebecca VanRheenen", "text": "I had to restart due to audio issues. I'm back now.
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:57:23Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "So like this PR is basically all the RPC's XML changes that I liked that I backported into MD https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture/pull/273/files
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:57:29Z"}, {"author": "Eric Rescorla", "text": "So you can conceptualize this as \"whatever magic that happened to take the RPC's changes and make a PR\"
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:57:47Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "just sent email to rfc-interest with a GitHub MVP https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rfc-interest/vjy2U3d6DrlZnr7ygAob1ZtI4Us/
", "time": "2025-09-17T21:59:12Z"}]