hello everyone
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:01:04.000Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "Note takers? Among the vast crowd of possibilities?
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:01:35.000Z"}, {"author": "Felix Linker", "text": "I don't have slides.
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:02:43.000Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "Hullo everybody...
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:03:07.000Z"}, {"author": "Felix Linker", "text": "A good start of the discussion could be the diff that I prepared for the list
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:03:13.000Z"}, {"author": "Felix Linker", "text": "Hi Warren
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:03:15.000Z"}, {"author": "Felix Linker", "text": "!
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:03:16.000Z"}, {"author": "Felix Linker", "text": "@Tommy Jensen I think you would like to be unmuted, but you are not :)
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:04:39.000Z"}, {"author": "Felix Linker", "text": "*muted!
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:04:44.000Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "How dare you assume my desires (thanks!)
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:05:06.000Z"}, {"author": "Felix Linker", "text": "I can walk through the changes
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:08:44.000Z"}, {"author": "Rohan Mahy", "text": "", "time": "2026-01-22T16:09:53.000Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "Sorry for doing that thundering keyboard thing again
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:10:46.000Z"}, {"author": "Alex Rosenberg", "text": "Stupid question: where is meetecho picking up company affiliation from? It's not in the profile on datatracker.
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:10:58.000Z"}, {"author": "Rohan Mahy", "text": "brb
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:21:25.000Z"}, {"author": "Rohan Mahy", "text": "The set of people who can review additional use cases is much larger than the list of people can
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:27:47.000Z"}, {"author": "Allison Mankin", "text": "Jim, I think it's worth reading Alex's issue - he has presented some expertise in the issue
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:30:25.000Z"}, {"author": "Rohan Mahy", "text": "+1 to Tommy
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:35:06.000Z"}, {"author": "Rahel Fainchtein", "text": "Understood
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:35:33.000Z"}, {"author": "Alex Rosenberg", "text": "+1. I just noticed these cases being absent.
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:35:50.000Z"}, {"author": "Jim Reid", "text": "Thanks Allison. One of my concerns here is how the diplomatic folks would engage with the WG ... or the IETF more generally. I suspect they'll be more comfortable talking about diplomatic bag stuff in an international treaty setting. If that's true, we may need to figure out some sort of liaison relationship.
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:38:27.000Z"}, {"author": "Jim Reid", "text": "Allison, I can't type as fast as you speak. Or as quickly as Tommy can. :-)
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:39:50.000Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "Chairs: we are working on official liaison relationships. Please raise such with us if there needs to be IETF liaising rather than individual WG participation (which is best)
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:39:51.000Z"}, {"author": "Allison Mankin", "text": "I really like the template added to the Security Considerations, I will write a PR
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:40:26.000Z"}, {"author": "Allison Mankin", "text": "Tackle it
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:40:57.000Z"}, {"author": "Allison Mankin", "text": "That's the wait - the consent
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:44:49.000Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "awkwardturtle
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:44:51.000Z"}, {"author": "Alex Rosenberg", "text": "Cool password, Tommy. :-)
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:45:08.000Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "LOL, no no, that's hunter2
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:45:47.000Z"}, {"author": "Alex Rosenberg", "text": ":rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:46:03.000Z"}, {"author": "Allison Mankin", "text": "We should review the ISO specs for shipping containers to see what they do on records of information that is internal or proprietary
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:50:21.000Z"}, {"author": "Alex Rosenberg", "text": "The ISO shipping container standard covers a simple metal plaque affixed to the container that is always visible. Only the \"IoT-enabled container\" stuff might cover that.
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:51:31.000Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "woooooot
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:54:42.000Z"}, {"author": "Felix Linker", "text": ":downwards_trend:
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:54:50.000Z"}, {"author": "Rahel Fainchtein", "text": ":clap:
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:54:51.000Z"}, {"author": "Felix Linker", "text": "I believe we can also close #2
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:55:04.000Z"}, {"author": "Felix Linker", "text": "(Because there is an outline of security considerations)
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:55:16.000Z"}, {"author": "Rahel Fainchtein", "text": "When it comes to Liasing: I think a lot of the UN affiliated organizations could use an official liaison. I can mention that one of the major holdups to getting input from the IAEA for example has been finding the right people to contact - since a blind cold contact is effectively as useful as doing nothing
", "time": "2026-01-22T16:57:39.000Z"}, {"author": "Rohan Mahy", "text": "Thank you Alex for creating the Issue
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:00:23.000Z"}, {"author": "Rahel Fainchtein", "text": "I have a few contacts I can email and plan to do so in the next week. However, this is also a case where we will likely need several representatives - since the IAEA is not only founded by a treaty, they oversee the adherence to numerous different international treaties and standards.
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:02:20.000Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "Unfortunately I need to run to next meeting.... Bye y'all
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:03:49.000Z"}, {"author": "Jim Reid", "text": "An added problem here Rahel is how those orgs decide to appoint a Liaison, what their scope is, etc, etc. The blind cold contact is unlikely to succeed. Useful and helpful government officials might work: \"Dear State Department, who should we approach at ISO/WHO/etc?\"
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:05:24.000Z"}, {"author": "Rahel Fainchtein", "text": "I was speaking to the fact that these may need an IETF liaison so that contact with them is more official/easier to track.
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:07:49.000Z"}, {"author": "Felix Linker", "text": "excellent, thanks for that clarification, rohan
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:08:41.000Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "On the IETF side, the IAB owns this and has official liaisons (for example, the ITU all up has a dedicated liaison). The Chairs are currently working with the IESG and IAB on that front specifically.
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:08:46.000Z"}, {"author": "Alex Rosenberg", "text": "Thx for the clarification Rohan -- this process is new for me. Hearing that folks want to move faster is actually reassuring.
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:10:03.000Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": ":clap:
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:10:49.000Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "(to architecture doc coming ^^^)
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:11:00.000Z"}, {"author": "Alex Rosenberg", "text": "https://www.itu.int/itu-t/workprog/wp_item.aspx?isn=23733
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:11:47.000Z"}, {"author": "Alex Rosenberg", "text": "That page lists two ICRC people and somebody from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
\nI don't know what SA's interest is here. Does anybody?
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:13:53.000Z"}, {"author": "Jim Reid", "text": "Yes, I realise that Rahel. The meta-issue is how/if those orgs choose to have a Liaison. Another is deciding the scope of that Liaison (role) and how the orgs will collaborate/communicate.
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:16:15.000Z"}, {"author": "Felix Linker", "text": "@Jim Reid you're unmuted
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:17:42.000Z"}, {"author": "Jim Reid", "text": "@ Alex. I sort of know. ICRC and SA are authors of one of the SG17 docs: getting governments to tell ITU about their approved digital emblems. This spun out of some global cybersecurity thing in SA last month. I think this is mostly harmless and might even be a good thing.
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:18:54.000Z"}, {"author": "Jim Reid", "text": "The other SG17 doc is creating a tech report on DIEM use cases and requirements.
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:19:45.000Z"}, {"author": "Felix Linker", "text": "Thanks for the productive meeting! Goodbye!
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:19:53.000Z"}, {"author": "Rahel Fainchtein", "text": "Thank you !
", "time": "2026-01-22T17:19:54.000Z"}]