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2022-05-03 Amy K. Vezza
Resources changed to github_org https://github.com/kittenwg (Github organization), tracker https://trac.ietf.org/trac/kitten/report/1 (Issue tracker), wiki https://trac.ietf.org/trac/kitten/wiki (Wiki), zulip https://zulip.ietf.org/#narrow/stream/66-kitten (Zulip stream) from github_org https://github.com/kittenwg (Github organization), tracker https://trac.ietf.org/trac/kitten/report/1 …
Resources changed to github_org https://github.com/kittenwg (Github organization), tracker https://trac.ietf.org/trac/kitten/report/1 (Issue tracker), wiki https://trac.ietf.org/trac/kitten/wiki (Wiki), zulip https://zulip.ietf.org/#narrow/stream/66-kitten (Zulip stream) from github_org https://github.com/kittenwg (Github organization), tracker https://trac.ietf.org/trac/kitten/report/1 (Issue tracker), wiki https://trac.ietf.org/trac/kitten/wiki (Wiki)
2022-03-23 Amy K. Vezza Area Director changed to Paul Wouters from Benjamin Kaduk
2022-03-20 Benjamin Kaduk Changed milestone "Submit "Best practices for password hashing and storage" to IESG", set state to active from review, accepting new milestone
2022-03-20 Benjamin Kaduk Changed milestone "Submit document on 2-Factor Authentication in SASL to IESG", set state to active from review, accepting new milestone
2022-03-20 Benjamin Kaduk Changed milestone "Decide on preferred solution(s) for 2-Factor Authentication in SASL", set state to active from review, accepting new milestone
2022-03-20 Benjamin Kaduk Changed milestone "Submit "SPAKE Pre-Authentication" document to IESG", set state to active from review, accepting new milestone
2022-03-20 Benjamin Kaduk Changed milestone "Submit "Channel Bindings for TLS 1.3" to IESG", set state to active from review, accepting new milestone
2022-02-10 Alexey Melnikov Added milestone "Submit "Best practices for password hashing and storage" to IESG" for review, due November 2022
2022-02-10 Alexey Melnikov Added milestone "Submit document on 2-Factor Authentication in SASL to IESG" for review, due October 2022
2022-02-10 Alexey Melnikov Added milestone "Decide on preferred solution(s) for 2-Factor Authentication in SASL" for review, due April 2022
2022-02-10 Alexey Melnikov Added milestone "Submit "SPAKE Pre-Authentication" document to IESG" for review, due March 2022
2022-02-10 Alexey Melnikov Added milestone "Submit "Channel Bindings for TLS 1.3" to IESG" for review, due November 2021
2022-02-10 Alexey Melnikov Changed milestone "draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-saml-ec to IESG", set due date to December 2022 from April 2013
2022-01-12 Robbie Harwood Chair changed to Alexey Melnikov from Alexey Melnikov, Robbie Harwood
2021-03-19 Robbie Harwood Deleted milestone "draft-ietf-krb-wg-iakerb to IESG"
2021-03-15 Alexey Melnikov Changed milestone "draft-ietf-krb-wg-pkinit-alg-agility to IESG", set due date to July 2019 from March 2013, resolved as "Done"
2021-03-15 Alexey Melnikov Changed milestone "draft-ietf-krb-wg-cammac to IESG", set due date to March 2016 from May 2013, resolved as "Done"
2021-03-15 Alexey Melnikov Changed milestone "draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-oauth to IESG", set due date to August 2015 from March 2013, resolved as "Done"
2021-01-11 Benjamin Kaduk Chair changed to Alexey Melnikov, Robbie Harwood from Robbie Harwood
2019-08-28 Benjamin Kaduk Chairs changed to Robbie Harwood from Robbie Harwood, Matthew Miller, Roland Dowdeswell
2018-07-09 Benjamin Kaduk Chairs changed to Matthew Miller, Robbie Harwood, Roland Dowdeswell from Matthew Miller, Benjamin Kaduk
2018-03-21 Cindy Morgan Shepherding AD changed to Benjamin Kaduk from Eric Rescorla
2017-11-15 Benjamin Kaduk
Updates since Prague: draft-ietf-kitten-rfc5653bis went through IETF LC and is waiting for AD writeup.
The WG-related work draft-ietf-curdle-des-des-des-die-die-die also went through IETF LC and is …
Updates since Prague: draft-ietf-kitten-rfc5653bis went through IETF LC and is waiting for AD writeup.
The WG-related work draft-ietf-curdle-des-des-des-die-die-die also went through IETF LC and is waiting for
a decision from the IESG on the right way to update/obsolete/move-to-historic an Informational document
such as RFC 4757 (the RC4 kerberos enctypes).

Our main active work items are draft-ietf-kitten-krb-spake-preauth and draft-ietf-kitten-channel-bound-flag,
both of which hit some stumbling blocks as we gained implementation experience.  Some coordination is needed
between draft-ietf-kitten-krb-spake-preauth and draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2, which is underway.

Lower priority ongoing work is to move more GSSAPI and Kerberos registries to IANA control, and publish
draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility and draft-ietf-kitten-krb-service-discovery (which have deployed implementations).

We received proposals for some potential new work items: a "hashed token" (i.e., resumption) SASL mechanism,
and a generic way to communicate password quality/attribute requirements, and are assessing whether there
is sufficient interest to merit WG adoption.
2017-07-19 Benjamin Kaduk
We have not published any new RFCs since Chicago, but sent                         
draft-ietf-kitten-rfc5653bis to …
We have not published any new RFCs since Chicago, but sent                         
draft-ietf-kitten-rfc5653bis to the IESG.  A related document                     
sent to curdle to avoid conflict-of-interest due to dual author/chair             
role (draft-ietf-curdle-des-des-des-die-die-die) is in IETF LC.                   
                                                                                   
A newly adopted document (draft-ietf-kitten-krb-spake-preauth) and                 
an older one (draft-ietf-kitten-channel-bound-flag) are seeing                     
implementation experience and nearly done.  We should also try to                 
finish up work moving some Kerberos and GSS-API registries to IANA,               
as well as our other adopted WG items.                                             
                                                                                   
We are also in the middle of a search for a new co-chair to replace               
Matthew Miller -- thanks for your long service, Matt!
2017-03-29 Amy K. Vezza Shepherding AD changed to Eric Rescorla from Stephen Farrell
2017-03-27 Benjamin Kaduk Urls changed to https://github.com/kittenwg (Github organization), https://trac.ietf.org/trac/kitten/report/1 (Issue tracker), https://trac.ietf.org/trac/kitten/wiki (Wiki) from https://trac.ietf.org/trac/kitten/report/1 (Issue tracker), https://trac.ietf.org/trac/kitten/wiki (Wiki)
2016-12-14 Benjamin Kaduk Secretaries changed to from Simon Josefsson
2016-07-20 Benjamin Kaduk
Since Buenos Aires, we have had one document advance to IETF LC
(draft-ietf-kitten-aes-cts-hmac-sha2); the WG is happy with it but the
secdir reviewer …
Since Buenos Aires, we have had one document advance to IETF LC
(draft-ietf-kitten-aes-cts-hmac-sha2); the WG is happy with it but the
secdir reviewer would have preferred different choices for the crypto and
that thread is not fully resolved yet.

Another draft, draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-freshness, is on its way to the
IESG pending a shepherd writeup.

In an attempt to mitigate low working group energy, we have decided to
adopt a new scheme for obtaining and tracking document reviews, instead of
the traditional WGLC period before advancing documents to the IESG.
We'll still get document reviews on the mailing list, but we'll also have
a wiki page per document where the chairs (or other participants) will put
links to the review thread, along with which version of the document was
reviewed and any administrative comments about it.  Once the chairs feel a
document has gotten enough review, we'll let the WG list know we plan to
move it forward and start working on the shepherdd writeup right away,
without a fixed wait period for objections.  This way the reviews don't
all need to come in during a small time window of WGLC.

We hope that this scheme will help us clear the backlog of WG documents
we've accumulated, documents that ought to get published but are in some
sense "insufficiently interesting" to have people championing them and
keeping them moving.

Documents "ready for WGLC" that are good candidates for this experiment
include:

draft-ietf-kitten-krb-auth-indicator
draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-extensions-iana
draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-saml-ec
draft-ietf-kitten-rfc6112bis (once a new revision gets posted; currently waiting for approval)
draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility
draft-ietf-kitten-rfc5653bis
draft-ietf-kitten-iakerb
2016-04-07 Matthew A. Miller
+++ temporal projection begins +++

kitten met at IETF 95 on Thursday at 16:20 ART in Quebracho A.

CAMMAC and 4402bis are published as 7751 …
+++ temporal projection begins +++

kitten met at IETF 95 on Thursday at 16:20 ART in Quebracho A.

CAMMAC and 4402bis are published as 7751 and 7802 (respectively), with last
calls imminent on a number of drafts, and minor revisions needed on others.
The group discussed how to proceed with current WG items and a plethora of
potential new work.

Shawn also took the time machine in for repairs, which are expected to be
complete sometime after IETF 96 ... probably.

+++ temporal projection ends +++
2016-03-11 Stephanie McCammon sent scheduled notification for IETF-95
2015-06-15 Cindy Morgan Mailing list archive changed to https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/kitten/ from http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/kitten/
2015-03-27 Stephen Farrell Chairs changed to Benjamin Kaduk, Matthew Miller from Shawn Emery, Matthew Miller, Benjamin Kaduk
2015-02-27 Stephanie McCammon sent scheduled notification for IETF-92
2014-07-23 Cindy Morgan Chairs changed to Benjamin Kaduk, Matthew Miller, Shawn Emery from Matthew Miller, Benjamin Kaduk, Josh Howlett
2014-07-23 Cindy Morgan Chairs changed to Josh Howlett, Benjamin Kaduk, Matthew Miller from Matthew Miller, Josh Howlett
2014-07-23 Cindy Morgan Chairs changed to Josh Howlett, Matthew Miller from Shawn Emery, Josh Howlett, Sam Hartman
2014-07-01 Stephanie McCammon sent scheduled notification for IETF-90
2014-06-23 Stephanie McCammon sent scheduled notification for IETF-90
2012-10-01 Cindy Morgan Chairs changed to Sam Hartman, Josh Howlett, Shawn Emery from Tom Yu, Shawn Emery, Alexey Melnikov
2004-10-28 (System) Started group
2004-06-10 (System) Proposed group