Meeting minutes - SIDRops @ IETF 123
22 July 2025 at 11:30 CEST

1) Agenda bashing and Chair's slides

Poll on PDU ordering benefits.

Rudiger: What's the behavior of the device if it is not supporting?
Russ: That's the way it is being defined.

Job: Race conditions do exist. WG debate is needed for Pros & Cons.
Russ: You are right.
Luigi: WG members to decide.
Russ: Majority says ordering provides benefits (as per poll conducted in
the room)
Job: Text in the document to be updated.
Luigi: Will continue discussion via mailing list.

2) Sriram - draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification

Tim: Working on implementation and suggests what error could be avoided.

Sriram: ASPA follows the configuration.

Rudiger: Clear explanation is needed to correctly register. Change
verification to validation as per RFC2828. BGP-Sec does AS Path
Verification.
Sriram: will follow it up

Nan Geng: Egress ASPA Verification draft is included in this draft
Sriram: ingress + OTC confirms what is egress verification requires.
Nan Geng: Not required multiple device co-ordination.
Sriram: Ingress & Egress verification is redundant, but draft does
covers it.

Maria: Configuration of ASPA should be inline with OTC

3) Tim Bruijnzeels - draft-ietf-sidrops-publication-server-bcp

Michael: Recommendation to have DNSSec
Tim: Sure

4) Chongfeng Xie - draft-ietf-sidrops-moa-profile

Job: There is a draft in IDR, is this draft needed for SIDROPS? Also
don't know what is the best WG.
Russ: Call for adoption for RPKI objects in SIDROPS WG

5) Jia Zhang - draft-zhang-sidrops-aspa-egress

Sriram: OTC propagation within the AS is not a security issue.
Jia: ASPA records can cross verify the OTC.
Nan Geng: needs some more clarification
Sriram: let's meet and discuss.

6) Yangfei Guo - draft-guo-sidrops-rpa-profile & 7) Shenglin Jiang - draft-xu-sidrops-rpa-verification

Maria: How do you expect the operators to understand and deploy RPA,
where operators are feeling difficulty with ASPA
Sriram: OTC & ASPA can address RPA.
Yangfei: Will respond via email.
Rudiger: Have you done scalability study
Jeff: Check Path Validation in SO-BGP object.

8) Yingying Su - draft-li-sidrops-drr-architecture

Russ: rest of the drafts can be presented in interim meeting

9) Job Snijders - draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-erik-protocol
10) Zhuotao Liu - draft-wang-sidrops-bgpsec-transition
11) Ziwei Li - draft-li-sidrops-fcbgp-experiment
12) Yu Fu - draft-fu-sidrops-enhanced-slurm-filter