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IANA Considerations and IETF Protocol and Documentation Usage for IEEE 802 Parameters
draft-eastlake-rfc5342bis-05

Yes

(Sean Turner)

No Objection

(Barry Leiba)
(Benoît Claise)
(Brian Haberman)
(Gonzalo Camarillo)
(Jari Arkko)
(Martin Stiemerling)
(Pete Resnick)
(Richard Barnes)
(Spencer Dawkins)
(Stephen Farrell)
(Stewart Bryant)

Note: This ballot was opened for revision 03 and is now closed.

Joel Jaeggli Former IESG member
(was Discuss, Yes) Yes
Yes (2013-08-29) Unknown
clearing due to completion of dicussion with iana.

old comment:

minor  adjustment due to feedback provided by ieee rac is needed.

since this doesn't not impact IETF assignments I think it's fine. imho I reviewed and I do not belive that it impacts the consensus we already have.

from donald.
	
   	   From -04 to -05	
 		
 	   Re-cast informational material about relevant IEEE assignment	
 	   policies to take into account the planned changes by the IEEE	
 	   Registraion Authority as per [RAC-OUIdraft].	
 		
 	   Add a sentence forshadowing the future possibility of EUI-128 MAC	
 	   addresses.	
 		
 	   Add InfiniBand as example of EUI-64 use.	
 		
 	   Minor editorial changes.
Sean Turner Former IESG member
(was No Objection) Yes
Yes (for -04) Unknown

                            
Adrian Farrel Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (2013-06-12 for -03) Unknown
Thank you for including section 1.1 which helped my review considerably.

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Maybe reversing the order of sections 1.1 and 1.2 would make 1.1 easier
to read.

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<pedant alert>

   ([RFC5342] had a requirement for parallel unicast and multicast
   assignments under some circumstances even when both types were not
   applied for. That requirement has proven impractical and is
   eliminated in this document.)

s/both types were/one of the types was/

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<double pedant alert>

      IANA always sends the Template to an appointed Expert.  If the
         Expert recuses themselves or is non-responsive, IANA may choose
         an alternative appointed Expert or, if none are available, will
         contact the IESG.

s/none are/none is/

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I am unwarrantedly bothered by the presence of Appendix B. I struggle to
see that it serves any purpose except to provide a secondary and 
potentially conflicting source of information compared to the 
registries.

Would the authors consider removing it and leaving the pointers to the
registries as the only source of information?
Barry Leiba Former IESG member
(was Discuss) No Objection
No Objection (for -04) Unknown

                            
Benoît Claise Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (for -03) Unknown

                            
Brian Haberman Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (for -03) Unknown

                            
Gonzalo Camarillo Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (for -03) Unknown

                            
Jari Arkko Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (for -03) Unknown

                            
Martin Stiemerling Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (for -03) Unknown

                            
Pete Resnick Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (for -03) Unknown

                            
Richard Barnes Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (for -03) Unknown

                            
Spencer Dawkins Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (for -03) Unknown

                            
Stephen Farrell Former IESG member
(was Discuss) No Objection
No Objection (for -03) Unknown

                            
Stewart Bryant Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (for -03) Unknown

                            
Ted Lemon Former IESG member
(was Discuss, No Objection) No Objection
No Objection (2013-07-26 for -04) Unknown
What's the point of Appendix B?   If it's to have a restricted list of only IETF allocations, should the IANA be maintaining this list, since what's in this document is doomed to become out of date? I don't find a list like this on the IANA web site. I don't specifically object to Appendix B; I just think that if these lists are useful, they ought to be maintained.

Give that Joe's draft has passed IETF last call, I think my DISCUSS is moot, so I'm dropping it.

Former DISCUSS:

Based on Donald's response to the below point, I realize that I should have entered this as a DISCUSS, so I am correcting that mistake.   Here't the original text of the comment:

What is the purpose of section 5.2?   It seems out of place with respect to the rest of this document.   I can't really object to it, since what it says is true, but it seems inappropriate to mention IANA RRTYPE assignments in a document about 802 code points.

Here's my further explanation of the problem:

The use of these RRtypes is not documented in any IETF publication, so documenting it in this one is precedent-setting.   Given that there has been substantial controversy about these RRtypes on the IETF mailing list (although it seems to be in a lull at the moment), publishing a reference to them in a completely unrelated document seems inappropriate.

This document is an individual submission with a clear focus on documenting IEEE 802 code points.   Knowing the authors, I think it is reasonable to assume that it has gotten sufficient review from experts on IEEE 802 code points, and that the consensus of the IETF on those points is valid.

That it additionally documents a DNS RRTYPE code point suggests to me that this section likely slipped under the radar and got no expert review from DNS experts, and that in fact this particular text does not represent any meaningful IETF consensus.

This DISCUSS can be cleared either by removing the text that documents these two RRtypes, or by doing a new last call on the IETF mailing list that specifically points out that this draft documents these two RRtypes.

It may be that there is a similar problem relating to the AFN allocation. It seems similarly unrelated, but probably isn't controversial, so it may be that this part of section 5.2 is not problematic. I will not object if this part of section 5.2 is kept, even if no new consensus call is done.