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Problem Statement for the Datagram Congestion Control Protocol (DCCP)
draft-ietf-dccp-problem-03

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Date Rev. By Action
2006-03-23
03 Lars Eggert State Change Notice email list have been change to dccp-chairs@ietf.org, floyd@icir.org from gf@erg.abdn.ac.uk, tphelan@sonusnet.com, floyd@icir.org
2006-03-23
03 Lars Eggert Shepherding AD has been changed to Allison Mankin from Lars Eggert
2006-03-23
03 Lars Eggert State Change Notice email list have been change to gf@erg.abdn.ac.uk, tphelan@sonusnet.com, floyd@icir.org from lars.eggert@netlab.nec.de, tphelan@sonusnet.com, floyd@icir.org
2006-03-23
03 Lars Eggert Shepherding AD has been changed to Lars Eggert from Allison Mankin
2005-09-23
03 Amy Vezza State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy Vezza
2005-09-19
03 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent
2005-09-19
03 Amy Vezza IESG has approved the document
2005-09-19
03 Amy Vezza Closed "Approve" ballot
2005-09-16
03 (System) Removed from agenda for telechat - 2005-09-15
2005-09-15
03 Amy Vezza State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation by Amy Vezza
2005-09-15
03 Allison Mankin
[Ballot comment]
The detailed comments on security  were deemed very worthwhile, but given that the
DCCP specs have excellent security considerations, we decided not to …
[Ballot comment]
The detailed comments on security  were deemed very worthwhile, but given that the
DCCP specs have excellent security considerations, we decided not to revise.
We just added a note to the RFC Editor for Russ's comment.
2005-09-15
03 Allison Mankin
[Ballot comment]
The security comments were deemed very worthwhile, but given that the DCCP
specifications have excellent security considerations, we decided not to
try to …
[Ballot comment]
The security comments were deemed very worthwhile, but given that the DCCP
specifications have excellent security considerations, we decided not to
try to revise the document.
2005-09-15
03 Sam Hartman [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Sam Hartman by Sam Hartman
2005-09-15
03 David Kessens [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for David Kessens by David Kessens
2005-09-15
03 Margaret Cullen [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Margaret Wasserman by Margaret Wasserman
2005-09-15
03 Bert Wijnen [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Bert Wijnen by Bert Wijnen
2005-09-15
03 Brian Carpenter [Ballot Position Update] Position for Brian Carpenter has been changed to No Objection from Undefined by Brian Carpenter
2005-09-15
03 Brian Carpenter
[Ballot comment]
Gen-ART review by Lakshimnath Dondeti follows. I don't want to block an
Informational on these grounds, but the authors might care to think …
[Ballot comment]
Gen-ART review by Lakshimnath Dondeti follows. I don't want to block an
Informational on these grounds, but the authors might care to think
about doing as suggested below:


Summary:  Very well written; however, missing security considerations ...

I enjoyed reading the I-D immensely; as I was nearing the end, I was hoping to see the authors' recommendations on security protocols for a datagram congestion control protocol.  Unfortunately, security did not make the cut in Section 5 on Additional Design Considerations.  Furthermore, Section 8 on Security Considerations says that there are no security considerations for this document.  I disagree!

Here are some questions the security considerations section might address:

1. I use SRTP/IPsec/DTLS for my VoIP traffic and now that a motivation for a DCCP being proposed, what are the implications on the existing security protocols.  Would they work without modifications or would there be any special considerations (for instance the DTLS draft has a paragraph on what might be different w.r.t. the DCCP vs. UDP).

2. TCP and UDP have different security considerations (e.g., reset attacks in TCP don't apply to UDP).  Would a DCCP be similar to TCP or UDP in security issues?

The answers may be obvious to folks active in this area, but not necessarily to an average reader.

As Russ suggested in his comments, DoS considerations and FW traversal as noted in other parts of the draft might be repeated in the security considerations section as well.

Nit: The abstract says the document is a historical record.  In that case, please delete the sentence starting with "The current version of DCCP includes no multihoming ..." in Section 5 (for future proofing this document in the face of changes to the DCCP specification).
2005-09-15
03 Brian Carpenter [Ballot Position Update] New position, Undefined, has been recorded for Brian Carpenter by Brian Carpenter
2005-09-15
03 Bill Fenner [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Bill Fenner by Bill Fenner
2005-09-14
03 Michelle Cotton IANA Comments:
As stated in the IANA Considerations section of this document, we understand that there are NO IANA Actions.
2005-09-14
03 Michelle Cotton IANA Comments:
As stated in the IANA Considerations section of this document, we understand that there are NO IANA Actions.
2005-09-14
03 Ted Hardie [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Hardie by Ted Hardie
2005-09-13
03 Mark Townsley [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mark Townsley by Mark Townsley
2005-09-09
03 Russ Housley
[Ballot comment]
Very nice, well written document.

  The Security Considerations essentially say that there are no
  security considerations, but the authors raise several …
[Ballot comment]
Very nice, well written document.

  The Security Considerations essentially say that there are no
  security considerations, but the authors raise several security
  issues in the body of the document.  The body of the document has
  discussion of DoS attacks, firewall traversal, and NAT traversal.
  I would rather see the Security Considerations section refer to
  these places.
2005-09-09
03 Russ Housley [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Russ Housley by Russ Housley
2005-09-08
03 Allison Mankin [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Allison Mankin
2005-09-08
03 Allison Mankin Ballot has been issued by Allison Mankin
2005-09-08
03 Allison Mankin Created "Approve" ballot
2005-09-08
03 (System) Ballot writeup text was added
2005-09-08
03 (System) Last call text was added
2005-09-08
03 (System) Ballot approval text was added
2005-09-08
03 Allison Mankin AD Review comments were given at the mic during Paris meeting and
handled by -02 -> -03 revision
2005-09-08
03 Allison Mankin [Note]: 'PROTO shepherd lars.eggert@netlab.nec.de' added by Allison Mankin
2005-09-08
03 Allison Mankin Placed on agenda for telechat - 2005-09-15 by Allison Mankin
2005-09-08
03 Allison Mankin State Changes to IESG Evaluation from Publication Requested by Allison Mankin
2005-08-29
03 Allison Mankin Note field has been cleared by Allison Mankin
2005-08-29
03 Allison Mankin I reviewed this during WGLC and gave verbal comments during the
WG meeting.  It is ready for the IESG at the next IESG agenda.
2005-08-29
03 Dinara Suleymanova State Changes to Publication Requested from AD is watching by Dinara Suleymanova
2005-08-24
03 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-dccp-problem-03.txt
2005-08-23
02 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-dccp-problem-02.txt
2005-06-28
03 Allison Mankin State Changes to AD is watching from Dead by Allison Mankin
2005-06-28
03 Allison Mankin State Change Notice email list have been change to lars.eggert@netlab.nec.de, tphelan@sonusnet.com, floyd@icir.org from
2005-06-28
03 Allison Mankin [Note]: 'Imminently/in WGLC' added by Allison Mankin
2005-06-28
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2005-06-28
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2005-06-24
01 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-dccp-problem-01.txt
2005-05-26
03 (System) State Changes to Dead from AD is watching by IESG Secretary
2002-11-11
03 Scott Bradner Shepherding AD has been changed to Mankin, Allison from Bradner, Scott
2002-11-11
03 Scott Bradner Shepherding AD has been changed to Mankin, Allison from Bradner, Scott
2002-11-11
03 Scott Bradner Shepherding AD has been changed to Bradner, Scott from Mankin, Allison
2002-10-24
03 Allison Mankin Intended Status has been changed to Informational from None
2002-10-24
03 Allison Mankin WG last call
2002-10-24
03 Allison Mankin Draft Added by mankin
2002-10-24
00 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-dccp-problem-00.txt