Indication of Support for Keep-Alive
draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-12
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2011-01-25
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12 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor |
2011-01-25
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12 | Amy Vezza | State changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent. |
2011-01-24
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12 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from In Progress |
2011-01-24
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12 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress from Waiting on Authors |
2011-01-24
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12 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
2011-01-24
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12 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2011-01-24
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12 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent |
2011-01-24
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12 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2011-01-24
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12 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2011-01-24
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12 | Amy Vezza | Approval announcement text regenerated |
2011-01-21
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12 | Robert Sparks | Ballot writeup text changed |
2011-01-21
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12 | (System) | Removed from agenda for telechat - 2011-01-20 |
2011-01-20
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12 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-12.txt |
2011-01-20
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12 | Cindy Morgan | State changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed from IESG Evaluation. |
2011-01-20
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12 | Sean Turner | [Ballot comment] Juergen Schoenwaelder spotted two editorial nits in the security considerations during his SECDIR review: a) [...] This specification does not specify a connection … [Ballot comment] Juergen Schoenwaelder spotted two editorial nits in the security considerations during his SECDIR review: a) [...] This specification does not specify a connection reuse mechanism, and it does it address security issues related to connection reuse. [...] s/it does it/it does not/ b) [...] They do not instruct the enity to place a value in a "keep" parameter of any request it forwards. [...] s/enity/entity/ |
2011-01-20
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12 | Sean Turner | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-01-20
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12 | Tim Polk | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-01-20
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12 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-01-19
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12 | Gonzalo Camarillo | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-01-19
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12 | Stewart Bryant | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-01-18
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12 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-01-18
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12 | Dan Romascanu | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-01-17
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12 | Ron Bonica | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-01-17
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12 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot comment] I found this a clear and well-written document, thanks. I have two smal points I would like the authors to think about, but … [Ballot comment] I found this a clear and well-written document, thanks. I have two smal points I would like the authors to think about, but nothing that blocks publication. Section 1.2 In some cases all SIP entities that need to be able to negotiate the usage of keep-alives might not support SIP Outbound. However, they might still support the keep-alive mechanisms defined in SIP Outbound, and need to be able to negotiate usage of them. Do you actually mean... In some cases not all SIP entities that need to be able to negotiate the use of keep-alives might support SIP Outbound. However, they might still support the keep-alive mechanisms defined in SIP Outbound, and need to be able to negotiate usage of them. Or maybe more elegant as... In some cases some SIP entities that need to be able to negotiate the use of keep-alives might not support SIP Outbound. However, they might still support the keep-alive mechanisms defined in SIP Outbound, and need to be able to negotiate usage of them. |
2011-01-17
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12 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-01-16
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12 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot comment] I found this a clear and well-written document, thanks. I have two smal points I would like the authors to think about, but … [Ballot comment] I found this a clear and well-written document, thanks. I have two smal points I would like the authors to think about, but nothing that blocks publication. Section 1.2 In some cases all SIP entities that need to be able to negotiate the usage of keep-alives might not support SIP Outbound. However, they might still support the keep-alive mechanisms defined in SIP Outbound, and need to be able to negotiate usage of them. Do you actually mean... In some cases not all SIP entities that need to be able to negotiate the use of keep-alives might support SIP Outbound. However, they might still support the keep-alive mechanisms defined in SIP Outbound, and need to be able to negotiate usage of them. Or maybe more elegant as... In some cases some SIP entities that need to be able to negotiate the use of keep-alives might not support SIP Outbound. However, they might still support the keep-alive mechanisms defined in SIP Outbound, and need to be able to negotiate usage of them. --- When can negotiation take place? I find... Once a SIP entity has negotiated sending of keep-alives associated with a dialog towards an adjacent SIP entity, it MUST NOT insert a "keep" parameter in any subsequent SIP requests, associated with the dialog, towards that adjacent SIP entity. Such "keep" parameter MUST be ignored, if received. Which is good. And from it I deduce that if a SIP entity has not negotiated the sending of keep-alives (either by the default of not bothering to negotiate, or by the negotiation being rejected) it can come back at any time and negotiate the use of keep-alives. It may be worth saying this explcitly somewhere. (Sorry if I missed this, but I did look.) |
2011-01-16
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12 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-01-14
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12 | David Harrington | Closed request for Last Call review by TSVDIR with state 'No Response' |
2011-01-12
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12 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot comment] I read the whole document and in general I don't have any objections to publishing it as an RFC. However I have a … [Ballot comment] I read the whole document and in general I don't have any objections to publishing it as an RFC. However I have a minor complain: 8. Grammar This specification defines a new Via header field parameter, "keep". The ABNF [RFC5234] is: via-params =/ keep keep = "keep" [ EQUAL 1*(DIGIT) ] This doesn't tell me where , or is defined. Please add the references as either ABNF comments or in the text before the grammar. |
2011-01-12
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12 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-01-10
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12 | Peter Saint-Andre | [Ballot comment] This is a fine document. I have only a few comments. 1. In second paragraph of the Security Considerations, please spell out "TLS" … [Ballot comment] This is a fine document. I have only a few comments. 1. In second paragraph of the Security Considerations, please spell out "TLS" and "DTLS" on first use and add informative references for the relevant specifications. 2. In the fourth paragraph of the Security Considerations, the specification says that a SIP entity MUST stop sending keep-alive requests if it does not receive responses to the STUN keep-alives that it sends to an adjacent downstream SIP entity. However, this does not take into account the fact that STUN requests and responses could be dropped, so it would be good to provide some more specific guidance here, e.g., stop sending STUN keep-alive requests if no STUN responses are received after sending two or more STUN requests (it seems suboptimal to stop sending STUN keep-alive requests if no response is received to only the very first STUN keep-alive request). Furthermore, no guidance is provided about the number of seconds the sender should wait before concluding that the adjacent downstream SIP entity has not responded. If these matters are covered in RFC 5389 then it would be helpful to cite the specific sections where they are discussed (e.g., Section 7.2.1 regarding retransmission timeouts). |
2011-01-10
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12 | Peter Saint-Andre | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-01-10
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12 | Robert Sparks | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2011-01-20 |
2011-01-10
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12 | Robert Sparks | State changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::AD Followup. |
2011-01-10
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12 | Robert Sparks | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Robert Sparks |
2011-01-10
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12 | Robert Sparks | Ballot has been issued |
2011-01-10
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12 | Robert Sparks | Created "Approve" ballot |
2011-01-10
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12 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2011-01-10
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11 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-11.txt |
2011-01-10
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12 | Robert Sparks | State changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::Revised ID Needed from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead. |
2011-01-05
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12 | (System) | State changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call. |
2011-01-04
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12 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed. Reviewer: Jürgen Schönwälder. |
2011-01-04
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12 | Amanda Baber | Upon approval of this document, IANA will register the following in the Header Field Parameters and Parameter Values registry at http://www.iana.org/assignments/sip-parameters Header Field Parameter Name … Upon approval of this document, IANA will register the following in the Header Field Parameters and Parameter Values registry at http://www.iana.org/assignments/sip-parameters Header Field Parameter Name Predefined Values Reference -------------------- ------------------------- ---------- --------- Via keep No [RFC-to-be] |
2010-12-17
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12 | David Harrington | Request for Last Call review by TSVDIR is assigned to Nandita Dukkipati |
2010-12-17
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12 | David Harrington | Request for Last Call review by TSVDIR is assigned to Nandita Dukkipati |
2010-12-16
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12 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Jürgen Schönwälder |
2010-12-16
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12 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Jürgen Schönwälder |
2010-12-15
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12 | Amy Vezza | Last call sent |
2010-12-15
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12 | Amy Vezza | State changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested. The following Last Call Announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: … State changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested. The following Last Call Announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Last Call: (Indication of support for keep-alive) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Session Initiation Protocol Core WG (sipcore) to consider the following document: - 'Indication of support for keep-alive' as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2011-01-05. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-keep/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-keep/ |
2010-12-15
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12 | Robert Sparks | Last Call was requested |
2010-12-15
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12 | (System) | Ballot writeup text was added |
2010-12-15
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12 | (System) | Last call text was added |
2010-12-15
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12 | (System) | Ballot approval text was added |
2010-12-15
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12 | Robert Sparks | State changed to Last Call Requested from Publication Requested::AD Followup. |
2010-12-15
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12 | Robert Sparks | Last Call text changed |
2010-12-15
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12 | Robert Sparks | Ballot writeup text changed |
2010-12-15
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10 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-10.txt |
2010-12-09
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12 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2010-12-09
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09 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-09.txt |
2010-11-23
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12 | Robert Sparks | State changed to Publication Requested::Revised ID Needed from Publication Requested. |
2010-10-19
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12 | Amy Vezza | PROTO writeup for draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-07 (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document and, … PROTO writeup for draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-07 (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document and, in particular, does he or she believe this version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication? Adam Roach is the document shepherd. He has personally reviewed this version of the document, and believes that it is ready for publication. (1.b) Has the document had adequate review both from key WG members and from key non-WG members? Does the Document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? The document received significant response during its working group last-call period in SIPCORE. Prior to the formation of SIPCORE, the document was the subject of substantial discussion on the SIP mailing list during the 2008-2009 time-frame. The majority of participants in these discussions felt that the proposed mechanism provides a useful function. The shepherd is not aware of any extra-WG participation in the development of this document. However, no areas have been identified in which input from additional WGs, Areas, or Directorates is required. (1.c) Does the Document Shepherd have concerns that the document needs more review from a particular or broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with AAA, internationalization or XML? The shepherd has no such concerns. (1.d) Does the Document Shepherd have any specific concerns or issues with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. Has an IPR disclosure related to this document been filed? If so, please include a reference to the disclosure and summarize the WG discussion and conclusion on this issue. The shepherd does not have any specific concerns regarding the mechanism described in this document. The shepherd is not aware of any IPR claims associated with this mechanism. (1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? The call for adoption in SIP (as a lame duck working group) resulted in a large number of respondents who saw a need for the mechanism described in this document. The consensus for adoption was unanimous. The technical aspects of the mechanism itself were worked out on the SIPCORE mailing list among a relatively small number of key participants (approximately four, including the author), with occasional comments from others. The WGLC had relatively heavy participation. (1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is entered into the ID Tracker.) No appeal has been threatened, and no serious discontent has been expressed. (1.g) Has the Document Shepherd personally verified that the document satisfies all ID nits? (See the Internet-Drafts Checklist and http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. Has the document met all formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB Doctor, media type and URI type reviews? The document passes both the ID Nits tool and a manual inspection. (1.h) Has the document split its references into normative and informative? Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the strategy for their completion? Are there normative references that are downward references, as described in [RFC3967]? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure for them [RFC3967]. References are split. All references are RFCs. All normative references are standards-track (except RFC 2119), so no downrefs exist. (1.i) Has the Document Shepherd verified that the document IANA consideration section exists and is consistent with the body of the document? If the document specifies protocol extensions, are reservations requested in appropriate IANA registries? Are the IANA registries clearly identified? If the document creates a new registry, does it define the proposed initial contents of the registry and an allocation procedure for future registrations? Does it suggest a reasonable name for the new registry? See [RFC5226]. If the document describes an Expert Review process has Shepherd conferred with the Responsible Area Director so that the IESG can appoint the needed Expert during the IESG Evaluation? The document adds a parameter to an existing IANA registry. The registry is clearly identified, and the new entry is in a format that matches the IANA table. (1.j) Has the Document Shepherd verified that sections of the document that are written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc., validate correctly in an automated checker? The only formal language present is an ABNF definition. The definition, which is reproduced below in its entirety, is correct by casual inspection: via-params =/ keep keep = "keep" [ EQUAL 1*(DIGIT) ] (1.k) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up? Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document defines a mechanism by which adjacent SIP entities can negotiate the use of the NAT keep-alive mechanism defined in RFC 5626, even if the other mechanisms described in RFC 5626 are not being applied. Working Group Summary The document was largely without controversy during its lifetime. Early in the discussion of the mechanism (in the SIP working group), several people challenged the utility of a mechanism for negotiating this kind of behavior (as opposed to simply sending keep-alives unilaterally). Ultimately, the working group decided that the chances for things "going wrong" under those circumstances were too great, and elected to define an explicit negotiation mechanism. Document Quality Several implementors and network operators have indicated that the have need of and plan to implement the mechanism described in this document. It is not known whether any implementations of the mechanism exist. |
2010-10-19
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12 | Amy Vezza | Draft Added by Amy Vezza in state Publication Requested |
2010-10-19
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12 | Amy Vezza | [Note]: 'Adam Roach (adam@nostrum.com) is the document shepherd.' added by Amy Vezza |
2010-10-19
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08 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-08.txt |
2010-10-13
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07 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-07.txt |
2010-09-06
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06 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-06.txt |
2010-08-05
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05 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-05.txt |
2010-05-31
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04 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-04.txt |
2010-05-24
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03 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-03.txt |
2010-04-15
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02 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-02.txt |
2009-12-01
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01 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-01.txt |
2009-11-09
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12 | (System) | Document has expired |
2009-05-04
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00 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-keep-00.txt |