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Multicast and Ethernet VPN with Segment Routing P2MP and Ingress Replication
draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-evpn-sr-p2mp-18

Yes

Gunter Van de Velde

No Objection

Andy Newton
Erik Kline
Jim Guichard
Orie Steele
Paul Wouters

No Record


Note: This ballot was opened for revision 15 and is now closed.

Gunter Van de Velde
Yes
Andy Newton
No Objection
Deb Cooley
No Objection
Comment (2025-10-19 for -15) Sent
Thanks to Mohit Sethi for their secdir review. 

Introduction:  Please expand PIM, BIDIR.  Sometimes paragraphs like the last paragraph in the Intro are in a terminology section (closer to the BCP 14 language section).  Please consider.
Éric Vyncke
(was Discuss) No Objection
Comment (2025-12-19 for -17) Sent
Thanks for the work done in this document. My previous blocking DISCUSS was about the "MPLS Label" header field, which is no more only for MPLS (see https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/mfXLxWrcxs-5BvUOGKNODeSCR8U/ ).

Based on the responsible AD, Gunter van de Velde, email https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/M3sPL5drhWXCXY4LR8nIrcjQBUc/ I am trusting the responsible AD and the BESS WG chairs to apply due diligence to the rfc6514bis I-D as this I-D will rename the "MPLS Label" field.

-éric
Erik Kline
(was Discuss) No Objection
Gorry Fairhurst
No Objection
Comment (2025-10-06 for -15) Sent
This is primarily about providing multicast to a VPN.

It would be helpful if this also pointed to section 4 of RFC 8085 for BCP guidance on the congestion control implications for multicast traffic (and section 3.6 of RFC 8085 regarding controlled environments).
Jim Guichard
No Objection
Ketan Talaulikar
(was Discuss) No Objection
Comment (2025-11-11 for -16) Sent
Thanks to the authors and the WG for their work on this document.

I am updating this ballot following the latest document update which addresses my comments. My thanks to the authors for this very helpful update.

I would like to share the following further comments on v16 of the document:

1) Please introduce normative reference to rfc9819 in addition to rfc9252 when referencing ESI filtering for EVPN with SRv6 (i.e., End.DT2M with Arg.FE2) since that RFC updates the base rfc9252.

2) For all use of the "MPLS Label" field in the PTA for SRv6, it would be good to say that the value 0 is put in that field per RFC6514 and the SRv6 SID is placed in the BGP Prefix SID appropriate TLV. And then state that only when transposition scheme is used for efficient BGP encoding, that the whole or portion of the function part of the SRv6 SID is encoded in the MPLS Label field. This is just a suggestion to clarify - I leave it to the authors.
Mohamed Boucadair
(was Discuss) No Objection
Comment (2025-11-12 for -16) Sent for earlier
Hi Rishabh, Daniel, Clarence, Hooman, and Jeffrey, 

The changes made in -16 [1] addresses all DISCUSS/COMMENT points raised in my previous ballot [2]. Thank you.

Please find below some very minor nits I tagged when reviewing the latest version, fwiw:

3.2.1.1.2:
   The SRv6 Endpoint Behavior of
   the SRv6 SID Information Sub-TLV encodes one of End.DTMC4, End.DTMC6
   or End.DTMC46 Section 3.1 code point values.
                 ^^^^^^^^^^

3.3.2:
   The SRv6 Endpoint
   Behavior of the SRv6 SID Information Sub-TLV MUST encode one of
   End.DTMC4, End.DTMC6 or End.DTMC46 Section 3.1 code point value.
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^

4.1.2.1:
   The split-horizon procedures specified in P2MP MPLS LSPs
   Section 8.3.1.2 of [RFC7432] are sufficient for SR P2MP P-tunnels.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Cheers,
Med

[1] https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-evpn-sr-p2mp-15&url2=draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-evpn-sr-p2mp-16&difftype=--html

[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/1QhhIKz_tE427kAsXLKMi_q6bkE/
Orie Steele
No Objection
Paul Wouters
No Objection
Roman Danyliw
No Objection
Comment (2025-10-20 for -15) Not sent
Thank you to Paul Kyzivat for the GENART review.
Mike Bishop
No Record
Comment (2025-10-20 for -15) Sent
This draft is very difficult to approach for anyone who isn't a domain expert. It uses a lot of domain-specific terminology even before you get to the list of RFCs whose terminology the reader is expected to be familiar with. That paragraph points to certain RFCs for "terms like" a list of items, suggesting that there might be other referenced terms in any given document with no pointer here. That makes it difficult for the reader to take an unfamiliar term and look it up.

I would encourage the authors to rework the introduction to contain a simple problem statement, an overview of how the existing technologies currently handle it, and what this document defines to improve the situation. Some diagrams might also be helpful in articulating the framework. I would suggest that this also include a thorough terminology section that cites RFCs and/or defines terms as appropriate for the reader attempting to consume this document.

In the Introduction, there's no reference cited for "P2MP Ingress Replication". Searching online for that phrase finds this draft as the primary hit. I assume that's intended to point to Section 6.4.5 of RFC 6513?

Throughout, the draft is inconsistent about using "a SR" or "an SR" -- which is correct turns on whether "SR" is pronounced "source routing" or "ess arr". Please pick one.

For the moment, I'm intentionally balloting "No Record," because I'd like the authors to have this feedback now. It's going to take me some time to read this in more depth and update my ballot position.