Minutes interim-2003-iesg-22 2003-12-04 16:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the December 4, 2003 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Rob Austein / IAB Liaison
    Steve Bellovin / AT&T
    Steve Conte / ICANN
    Michelle Cotton / ICANN
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
    Thomas Narten / IBM
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / Nokia
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    REGRETS
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    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the November 20, 2003 Teleconference were approved.
    The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

    1.2 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o Ted Hardie to take responsibility for initiating a discussion on
    applications' expectations on the behavior of the DNS system.
    o Harald Alvestrand to write a proposed update to the IESG
    Teleconference timeline. The update will move submission of items
    for the preliminary agenda to the Thursday before the teleconference,
    and will suggest that the ADs inform the IESG when they wish to
    submit items later than the deadline.
    o Harald Alvestrand to send a note for the Secretariat to send to
    the RFC Editor on behalf of the IESG regarding David Jablon's
    request that the IPR WG guidelines document not be published.
    o The Secretariat to send the preliminary agenda for the December
    4, 2003 IESG Teleconference on Wednesday, November 26, 2003, to
    accommodate the US Thanksgiving Holiday Weekend.

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how
    to get to Draft".
    o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
    with IAB.
    o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
    o Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings
    using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting
    experiments on the network during the IETF meeting.
    o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue.
    o Steve Bellovin to summarize changes to requirements for RFCs,
    Internet-Drafts and procedures based on the IPR documents. Steve
    should report back on the next IESG telechat.

    NEW:

    o Thomas Narten to draft two announcement messages to replace the
    announcement message proposed by Margaret Wasserman regarding the
    MPOWR WG and the Design Team.
    o The Secretariat will post the revised telechat timeline on the
    Internal IESG Web Page.

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-sip-callerprefs-10.txt - 1 of 13
    Caller Preferences for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note
    to be prepared by Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the
    RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp-wdm-02.txt - 2 of 13
    Link Management Protocol (LMP) for Dense Wavelength Division
    Multiplexing (DWDM) Optical Line Systems (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ted Hardie and Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp-test-sonet-sdh-03.txt - 3 of 13
    SONET/SDH Encoding for Link Management Protocol (LMP) Test messages
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-trade-ecml2-spec-08.txt - 4 of 13
    Electronic Commerce Modeling Language (ECML):Version 2 Specification
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Russ
    Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-trade-voucher-lang-05.txt - 5 of 13
    XML Voucher: Generic Voucher Language (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Russ
    Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-enum-sip-01.txt - 6 of 13
    enumservice registration for SIP Addresses-of-Record (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note
    to be prepared by Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the
    RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-krb-wg-kerberos-clarifications-04.txt - 7 of 13
    The Kerberos Network Authentication Service (V5) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Allison Mankin.*

    o draft-ietf-enum-h323-01.txt - 8 of 13
    ENUM Service Registration for H.323 URL (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note
    to be prepared by Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the
    RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2096-update-05.txt - 9 of 13
    IP Forwarding Table MIB (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen and Alex Zinin.*

    o draft-ietf-ipseckey-rr-07.txt - 10 of 13
    A method for storing IPsec keying material in DNS (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten, and Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-stateless-02.txt - 11 of 13
    A Guide to Implementing Stateless DHCPv6 Service (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten, Bert Wijnen, and Alex Zinin.*

    o draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2012-update-05.txt - 12 of 13
    Management Information Base for the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Allison Mankin and Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-pppext-vendor-protocol-01.txt - 13 of 13
    PPP Vendor Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    o Two-document ballot: - 1 of 4
    - draft-ietf-mpls-tc-mib-10.txt
    Definitions of Textual Conventions for Multiprotocol Label Switching
    (MPLS) Management (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-mpls-mgmt-overview-09.txt
    Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Management Overview (Informational)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    These documents were approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
    send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-mpls-lsr-mib-14.txt - 2 of 4
    Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switching Router (LSR)
    Management Information Base (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
    send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-imapext-condstore-05.txt - 3 of 4
    IMAP Extension for Conditional STORE operation (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
    send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-pkix-x509-ipaddr-as-extn-03.txt - 4 of 4
    X.509 Extensions for IP Addresses and AS Identifiers (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.*

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item
    o draft-daboo-sieve-spamtest-04.txt - 1 of 2
    SIEVE Spamtest and Virustest Extensions (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
    send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-melnikov-imap-unselect-01.txt - 2 of 2
    IMAP UNSELECT command (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note
    to be prepared by Ned Freed. The Secretariat will send an individual
    submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the
    RFC Editor Note.

    2.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-pwe3-requirements-07.txt - 1 of 4
    Requirements for Pseudo-Wire Emulation Edge-to-Edge (PWE3)
    (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-pwe3-arch-06.txt - 2 of 4
    PWE3 Architecture (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-dnsext-dns-threats-05.txt - 3 of 4
    Threat Analysis Of The Domain Name System (Informational)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-sipping-e164-04.txt - 4 of 4
    Using E.164 numbers with the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
    (Informational)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor
    Note to be prepared by Allison Mankin. The Secretariat
    will send a working group submission Document Action
    Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    3.1.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item
    o draft-sarcar-snoop-new-types-01.txt - 1 of 1
    Additional Snoop Datalink Types (Informational)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    An individual submission Document Action Announcement.

    3.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item
    NONE

    3.3.2 Returning Item
    o draft-bless-diffserv-multicast-07.txt - 1 of 2
    IP Multicast in Differentiated Services Networks (Informational)
    Token: Bill Fenner

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this
    document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem"
    message to the RFC Editor.

    o draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp-02.txt - 2 of 2
    A Multicast Extension to MAPOS NSP (Node Switch Protocol)
    (Informational)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The IESG recommends that this document not be published as an
    Informational RFC. The Secretariat will send a "do not publish"
    message to the RFC Editor that includes an explanation of the
    decision to be prepared by Thomas Narten.

    3.3.3 To be assigned - 1 of 1
    o draft-adams-cmpaltcert-02.txt
    Alternative Certificate Formats for PKIX-CMP (Informational)

    The document was assigned to Russ Housley.

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    o Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points (capwap)- 1 of 1
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The charter for the proposed working group remains under discussion
    by the IESG. The Secretariat will take no further action until
    instructed to do so by Bert Wijnen.

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    o Extended Incident Handling (inch) - 1 of 1
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    7. Management Issues

    7.1 Telechat Timeline (Harald Alvestrand)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG has approved the revised
    timeline. The Secretariat will post the revised telechat timeline on
    the Internal IESG Web Page.

    7.2 IPO WG (Alex Zinin)

    The management issue was discussed.

    7.3 System port for draft-klensin (Harald Alvestrand)

    The management issue was discussed.

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