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DNS-SD Extensions
charter-ietf-dnssd-01-03

Yes

(Jari Arkko)
(Sean Turner)

No Objection

(Benoît Claise)
(Gonzalo Camarillo)
(Martin Stiemerling)
(Stewart Bryant)

Abstain


Note: This ballot was opened for revision 00-02 and is now closed.

Ballot question: "Is this charter ready for external review?"

Jari Arkko Former IESG member
Yes
Yes (for -00-02) Unknown

                            
Sean Turner Former IESG member
(was Block) Yes
Yes (for -00-04) Unknown

                            
Ted Lemon Former IESG member
Yes
Yes (2013-09-14 for -00-02) Unknown
I think the proposed work is very important and should proceed.
Adrian Farrel Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (2013-09-26 for -00-02) Unknown
This is timely and important.
I hope that the issues raised by other ADs can be resolved quickly so that work proceeds.
Barry Leiba Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (2013-09-25 for -00-02) Unknown
I had a similar thought to Brian's, and I support his blocking comment.

I also found the extensive background and exposition to be a bit longer-winded than is probably necessary, and I ask that you consider some significant editing and trimming.  That said, it's organized well enough that it's understandable, so this is a non-blocking comment.  If such editing doesn't happen, I won't raise any further objection.
Benoît Claise Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (2013-09-26 for -00-03) Unknown

                            
Brian Haberman Former IESG member
(was Block) No Objection
No Objection (2013-09-26 for -00-03) Unknown
The supplied -03 version of the charter addresses my concerns adequately.  Thank you.
Gonzalo Camarillo Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (for -00-03) Unknown

                            
Martin Stiemerling Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (for -00-02) Unknown

                            
Pete Resnick Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (2013-09-25 for -00-02) Unknown
I understand Brian and Barry's concerns, but I would hate for the WG not to consider the implications of remote discovery during the design phase: Certain choices may preclude adding on remote discovery. Perhaps it would suffice to simply make it clear that this can be considered, but may be tossed overboard and is not a requirement.

Goal 3: Change "To publish an Informational RFC that documents" to simply "To document" and "which should include" to "including". I don't think we should care whether this is a separate document, part of an applicability statement section of the protocol document, or something else entirely.

I also don't think the Deliverables need to be spelled out so specifically. The goals section is sufficient. I would strike the Deliverables section entirely.

Typos:

   Any solution developed by the dnssdext WG wil not conflict...

"will"

   (D) Mesh networks

"(E)"
Spencer Dawkins Former IESG member
(was Block) No Objection
No Objection (2013-09-26 for -00-03) Unknown
Thank you for addressing my BLOCK question about scoping service discovery. I think getting that work right will be important, but it's appropriate for the working group to flesh out the details (rather than holding up chartering while we chat about it).

I trust that Ted and the proposed chairs will add appropriate text about scoping service discovery to the charter if they think doing so would be helpful.

I agree with every single AD comment so far (Brian, Barry, Pete and Ted). I think I come down closest to where Pete comes down on remote service discovery (which I might paraphrase as "don't hold the working group to providing remote service discovery, but don't make them design local service discovery with their eyes closed, either").
Stephen Farrell Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (2013-09-26 for -00-02) Unknown
I support doing this, but have a comment on Spencer's comment.
If geopriv concepts are used by the wg, (which might well be a 
fine idea), then I hope that is done with the goal of appropriately 
protecting privacy for the node doing discovery. One could argue
that the protocols adopted by geopriv make the default assumption
that targets are ok with their identity and location being known to 
parts of the network, which is perhaps not appropriate here.
Stewart Bryant Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (for -00-02) Unknown

                            
Joel Jaeggli Former IESG member
Abstain
Abstain (2013-09-26 for -00-02) Unknown
>>  not necessarily on directly connected links, e.g., on links elsewhere on the same site, or links at a remote site.

our history with local/site/enterprise/interdomain/internet scoping is ambivalent.

would greatly like to see this rule far flung activities out of scope. a single adminstrative domain or span of network control or what have you would be tollerable.