NAT Behavioral Requirements for TCP
draft-ietf-behave-tcp-08
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2015-10-14
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08 | (System) | Notify list changed from behave-chairs@ietf.org to (None) |
2012-08-22
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08 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the Yes position for Lars Eggert |
2008-10-22
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08 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to RFC Published from RFC Ed Queue by Amy Vezza |
2008-10-22
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08 | Amy Vezza | [Note]: 'RFC 5382 BCP 0142' added by Amy Vezza |
2008-10-16
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08 | (System) | RFC published |
2008-09-06
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08 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-behave-tcp-08.txt |
2007-05-02
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08 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to No IC from In Progress |
2007-05-02
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08 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2007-05-01
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08 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy Vezza |
2007-05-01
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08 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent |
2007-05-01
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08 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2007-05-01
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08 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2007-05-01
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08 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup by Amy Vezza |
2007-04-30
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08 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Lars Eggert has been changed to Yes from Discuss by Lars Eggert |
2007-04-30
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08 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2007-04-30
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07 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-behave-tcp-07.txt |
2007-04-20
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08 | (System) | Removed from agenda for telechat - 2007-04-19 |
2007-04-19
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08 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to IESG Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from IESG Evaluation by Amy Vezza |
2007-04-19
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08 | Cullen Jennings | [Ballot discuss] |
2007-04-19
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08 | Cullen Jennings | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Cullen Jennings has been changed to Yes from Discuss by Cullen Jennings |
2007-04-19
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08 | David Ward | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by David Ward |
2007-04-19
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08 | Dan Romascanu | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Dan Romascanu |
2007-04-19
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08 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded by Jari Arkko |
2007-04-19
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08 | Jon Peterson | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Jon Peterson |
2007-04-19
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08 | Mark Townsley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Mark Townsley |
2007-04-19
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08 | Cullen Jennings | [Ballot discuss] In section 5, the draft suggests that NATs should man in the middle sequence number so that they can send keep alives to … [Ballot discuss] In section 5, the draft suggests that NATs should man in the middle sequence number so that they can send keep alives to both sides to check liveness of the session. This works today but I wonder if the security or transport ADs see anything coming down the pipeline that is likely to break this in the future? (Note I plan to clear this discuss as soon as we have talked about it) |
2007-04-19
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08 | Cullen Jennings | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded by Cullen Jennings |
2007-04-19
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08 | Chris Newman | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Chris Newman |
2007-04-18
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08 | Ron Bonica | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Ron Bonica |
2007-04-18
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08 | Ross Callon | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Ross Callon |
2007-04-18
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08 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Russ Housley |
2007-04-17
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08 | Lisa Dusseault | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Lisa Dusseault |
2007-04-17
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08 | Sam Hartman | [Ballot comment] I'm not making this a discuss, but I consider it a significant limitation that this document does not consider the implications of an … [Ballot comment] I'm not making this a discuss, but I consider it a significant limitation that this document does not consider the implications of an external address being used both for local traffic to the NAT and for translated traffic. I think the requirements for handling internal SYNs are very challenging to deal with in this situation and guidance would almost certainly improve implementation quality here. I've seen significant problems with NATs getting issues like this wrong for UDP. |
2007-04-17
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08 | Sam Hartman | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Sam Hartman |
2007-04-16
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08 | Tim Polk | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Tim Polk |
2007-04-16
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08 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot comment] [Editing nits emailed to authors directly.] |
2007-04-16
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08 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot discuss] Section 7.3., paragraph 1: > ICMP responses are used by end-host TCP stacks for Path MTU Discovery > and for quick … [Ballot discuss] Section 7.3., paragraph 1: > ICMP responses are used by end-host TCP stacks for Path MTU Discovery > and for quick error detection. ICMP messages are rewritten by the > NAT (specifically the IP headers and the headers inside the ICMP > payload) and forwarded to the appropriate internal or external host. > Blocking any ICMP message is discouraged. DISCUSS: The topic of how NATs should handle ICMP messages recently came up again in BEHAVE in the context of draft-ietf-behave-nat-icmp. I'm not sure if this section accurately reflects the outcome of that discussion. My (personal) interpretation of the outcome is that the current blanket statement "blocking any ICMP message is discouraged" should be refined to something along these lines: "Several TCP mechanisms depend on the reception of ICMP error messages triggered by the transmission of TCP segments. One such mechanism is path MTU discovery [RFC1191][RFC1981], which is required for the correct operation of TCP. The current path MTU discovery mechanism requires the sender of TCP segments to be notified of ICMP "Datagram Too Big" responses. If a NAT translates TCP, it SHOULD translate this ICMP error code as well, to avoid communication failures ("black holes" [RFC2923]). TCP's connection establishment and maintenance mechanisms also behave much more efficiently when the NAT translates ICMP "Destination Unreachable" messages arrive in response to outgoing TCP segments. Consequently, NATs SHOULD translate these ICMP messages." (It may make sense to reformat this as a REQ-X.) I should _really_ have brought this up earlier - my apologies. |
2007-04-16
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08 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded by Lars Eggert |
2007-04-04
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2007-04-19 by Magnus Westerlund |
2007-04-04
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Magnus Westerlund |
2007-04-04
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | Ballot has been issued by Magnus Westerlund |
2007-04-04
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | Created "Approve" ballot |
2007-04-04
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | State Changes to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::AD Followup by Magnus Westerlund |
2007-04-03
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08 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2007-04-03
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06 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-behave-tcp-06.txt |
2007-03-23
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | State Changes to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::Revised ID Needed from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead by Magnus Westerlund |
2007-03-17
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | Awaiting resolution of IETF last call comments from SecDir. |
2007-03-15
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08 | (System) | State has been changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call by system |
2007-03-09
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08 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed. Reviewer: Pasi Eronen. |
2007-03-07
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08 | Yoshiko Fong | IANA Last call Comments; As described in the IANA Considerations section, we understand this document to have NO IANA Actions. |
2007-03-02
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08 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Pasi Eronen |
2007-03-02
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08 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Pasi Eronen |
2007-03-01
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08 | Amy Vezza | Last call sent |
2007-03-01
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08 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to In Last Call from Last Call Requested by Amy Vezza |
2007-03-01
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | State Changes to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup by Magnus Westerlund |
2007-03-01
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | Last Call was requested by Magnus Westerlund |
2007-03-01
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08 | (System) | Ballot writeup text was added |
2007-03-01
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08 | (System) | Last call text was added |
2007-03-01
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08 | (System) | Ballot approval text was added |
2007-02-28
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08 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2007-02-28
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05 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-behave-tcp-05.txt |
2007-02-21
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | State Changes to AD Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from AD Evaluation by Magnus Westerlund |
2007-02-21
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | There is a downref issue in this version. |
2007-02-21
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | State Changes to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested by Magnus Westerlund |
2007-02-12
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | PROTO (draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-doc-shepherding-09) writeup for: "NAT Behavioral Requirements for TCP", http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-behave-tcp-04.txt (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has … PROTO (draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-doc-shepherding-09) writeup for: "NAT Behavioral Requirements for TCP", http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-behave-tcp-04.txt (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document and, in particular, does he or she believe this version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication? Dan Wing The document has been reviewed and is ready for forwarding to IESG for publication. (1.b) Has the document had adequate review both from key WG members and from key non-WG members? Does the Document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? During its development, the document has received input from members of the TCPM working group (especially Joe Touch and Fernando Gont), and that input was integrated into this document. The document had a two-week WGLC in both TCPM and BEHAVE working groups. There were no comments during this last call. The Document Shepherd has no concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews. (1.c) Does the Document Shepherd have concerns that the document needs more review from a particular or broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with AAA, internationalization or XML? Additional review is not necessary. (1.d) Does the Document Shepherd have any specific concerns or issues with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. Has an IPR disclosure related to this document been filed? If so, please include a reference to the disclosure and summarize the WG discussion and conclusion on this issue. There have been a little concern that the TCP document normatively references the UDP document (draft-ietf-behave-nat-udp, soon to be published as RFC4787), because this requires reading both documents. WG consensus was to normatively reference UDP, as is done in the document. There is no known IPR on this document. (1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? The document has strong WG consensus. (1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is entered into the ID Tracker.) None indicated. (1.g) Has the Document Shepherd personally verified that the document satisfies all ID nits? (See http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html and http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. Has the document met all formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB Doctor, media type and URI type reviews? The document hsa pre-Feb-2007 copyright, per idnits 1.124: - This document has ISOC Copyright according to RFC 3978, instead of the newer IETF Trust Copyright according to RFC 4748. You should consider updating it; the new Copyright statement will be required from February 1st, 2007 - This document has an original RFC 3978 Section 5.5 Disclaimer, instead of the newer disclaimer which includes the IETF Trust according to RFC 4748. You should consider updating it; the new disclaimer will be required from February 1st, 2007 (1.h) Has the document split its references into normative and informative? Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the strategy for their completion? Are there normative references that are downward references, as described in [RFC3967]? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure for them [RFC3967]. Yes, the document has split its references. There are two I-Ds cited as normative: * draft-ietf-behave-nat-icmp, which is not yet ready for advancement (it has not been WGLC'd). It is expected to be WGLC'd later this year. * draft-ietf-behave-nat-udp is in the RFC Editor's queue. There are no downward references. (1.i) Has the Document Shepherd verified that the document IANA consideration section exists and is consistent with the body of the document? If the document specifies protocol extensions, are reservations requested in appropriate IANA registries? Are the IANA registries clearly identified? If the document creates a new registry, does it define the proposed initial contents of the registry and an allocation procedure for future registrations? Does it suggest a reasonable name for the new registry? See [RFC2434. If the document describes an Expert Review process has Shepherd conferred with the Responsible Area Director so that the IESG can appoint the needed Expert during the IESG Evaluation? There are no IANA considerations for this specification; the document does not describe an Expert Review process. (1.j) Has the Document Shepherd verified that sections of the document that are written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc., validate correctly in an automated checker? This document does not contain any such formal language. (1.k) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up? Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document defines a set of requirements for NATs that handle TCP that would allow many applications, such as peer-to-peer applications and on-line games, to work consistently. Developing NATs that meet this set of requirements will greatly increase the likelihood that these applications will function properly. Working Group Summary This document was a product of the BEHAVE working group. Document Quality This document describes recommended practices for NATs. Most existing NATs already conform to these requirements. Personnel Dan Wing is the Document Shepherd, and Magnus Westerlund is the Responsible Area Director. |
2007-02-12
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08 | Magnus Westerlund | Draft Added by Magnus Westerlund in state Publication Requested |
2007-01-17
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04 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-behave-tcp-04.txt |
2007-01-05
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03 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-behave-tcp-03.txt |
2006-11-06
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02 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-behave-tcp-02.txt |
2006-06-20
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01 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-behave-tcp-01.txt |
2006-02-24
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00 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-behave-tcp-00.txt |