Happy Eyeballs Version 2: Better Connectivity Using Concurrency
draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-07
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2017-12-20
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07 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48-DONE from AUTH48 |
2017-12-12
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07 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48 from RFC-EDITOR |
2017-12-08
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07 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to RFC-EDITOR from EDIT |
2017-10-31
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07 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to No IC from In Progress |
2017-10-31
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07 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to EDIT |
2017-10-31
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07 | (System) | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2017-10-31
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07 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
2017-10-31
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07 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2017-10-31
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07 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed |
2017-10-31
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07 | Cindy Morgan | IESG has approved the document |
2017-10-31
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07 | Cindy Morgan | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2017-10-31
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07 | Cindy Morgan | Ballot approval text was generated |
2017-10-26
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07 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - No Actions Needed |
2017-10-26
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07 | Tommy Pauly | New version available: draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-07.txt |
2017-10-26
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07 | (System) | New version approved |
2017-10-26
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07 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: David Schinazi , Tommy Pauly |
2017-10-26
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07 | Tommy Pauly | Uploaded new revision |
2017-10-26
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06 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed from IESG Evaluation |
2017-10-25
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06 | Amanda Baber | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - No Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2017-10-25
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06 | Alia Atlas | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alia Atlas |
2017-10-24
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06 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins |
2017-10-24
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06 | Suresh Krishnan | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Suresh Krishnan |
2017-10-24
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06 | Ben Campbell | [Ballot comment] Substantive Comments: - I agree with Adam's comments about normative language. -4, 2nd paragraph, last sentence: "across networks" and "network changes" are ambiguous. … [Ballot comment] Substantive Comments: - I agree with Adam's comments about normative language. -4, 2nd paragraph, last sentence: "across networks" and "network changes" are ambiguous. I think you are talking about moving a device from one access network to another, but "across networks" could be interpreted to mean "sending the data across networks". "Network changes" could refer to changes in network configuration. -10: I don't understand what you mean by "direct" vs "indirect" security considerations. Editorial Comments: - Abstract: Please mention that this obsoletes 6555 in the abstract. (The intro already does so.) - 7.2, last paragraph: The pattern "... recommended at 2 seconds" does not make grammatical sense. I would assume there are missing words, but I see the same pattern occur several times in the document. I suggest "recommended to be..." |
2017-10-24
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06 | Ben Campbell | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ben Campbell |
2017-10-24
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06 | Alvaro Retana | [Ballot comment] I completely agree with Adam's Ballot. [I was in the process of writing something similar, so I'm happy he beat me to it.] |
2017-10-24
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06 | Alvaro Retana | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana |
2017-10-24
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06 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper |
2017-10-23
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06 | Adam Roach | [Ballot comment] Summary: I think it's great that we continue to refine the means for making rapid connections in dual-stack environments, and want to thank … [Ballot comment] Summary: I think it's great that we continue to refine the means for making rapid connections in dual-stack environments, and want to thank the authors and working group for putting together a well-written and easy-to-follow document. I have some concerns about distinguishing normative requirements from an "example algorithm" that can be used to meet them, and would like to see better clarity around the relationship between this document and existing, deployed implementations of RFC6555. Details: The abstract claims that the document provides an "example" algorithm, while the main text of the document describes the algorithm as "RECOMMENDED" (using normative language), as well as having a variety of other normative statements made regarding its implementation. Given that the document is serving the dual purpose of laying out requirements and giving an exemplary (which I would take to mean "non-normative") algorithm that satisfies those requirements, I would *strongly* recommend removing normative language from the description of the exemplary algorithm. In order to make that task easier -- and to clarify the intention of the lower-cased word "recommended" in phrases like "The recommended minimum value is 100 milliseconds" -- I would further suggest that this document adopt the new RFC8174 template instead of using the old RFC2119 template. That said, there appears to be a random mix of uppercase and non-uppercase "recommended" even when describing the same general concept (e.g., the timer cited above is "recommended," while the timeout for processing DNS responses after a connection is "RECOMMENDED") -- I suggest an editing pass that generally looks at how these terms are used and ensures that normative versus non-normative uses are properly distinguished. The reason I'm focusing so carefully on normative versus non-normative language use in general, and on carefully making the algorithm itself non-normative in particular ties to the rationale for obsoleting RFC6555. In an earlier response to Mirja's DISCUSS, Tommy Pauly said: > A "simple" implementation of the 6555bis algorithm is still > aligned with the algorithm in 6555, and we would like to see > new implementations taking the nuances of the new algorithm > description into account. Which makes perfect sense. I've seen evidence that this point -- that an implementation of the RFC6555 algorithm is fully compliant with the v2 document -- has been broadly missed by the implementation community. See, for example: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/m/#!topic/net-dev/GQaqi5WVlPY (and, FWIW, I've had similar private feedback from the relevant decision makers inside Mozilla regarding web browser implementations). To clarify this situation, I think it is really necessary to include text in Appendix A that indicates roughly the same thing as Tommy's text above does. |
2017-10-23
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06 | Adam Roach | Ballot comment text updated for Adam Roach |
2017-10-23
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06 | Adam Roach | [Ballot comment] Summary: I think it's great that we continue to refine the means for making rapid connections in dual-stack environments, and want to thank … [Ballot comment] Summary: I think it's great that we continue to refine the means for making rapid connections in dual-stack environments, and want to thank the authors and working group for putting together a well-written and easy-to-follow document. I have some concerns about distinguishing normative requirements from an "example algorithm" that can be used to meet them, and would like to see better clarity around the relationship between this document and existing, deployed implementations of RFC6555. Details: The abstract claims that the document provides an "example" algorithm, while the main text of the document describes the algorithm as "RECOMMENDED" (using normative language), as well as having a variety of other normative statements made regarding its implementation. Given that the document is serving the dual purpose of laying out requirements and giving an exemplary (which I would take to mean "non-normative") algorithm that satisfies that algorithm, I would *strongly* recommend removing normative language from the description of the exemplary algorithm. In order to make that task easier -- and to clarify the intention of the lower-cased word "recommended" in phrases like "The recommended minimum value is 100 milliseconds" -- I would further suggest that this document adopt the new RFC8174 template instead of using the old RFC2119 template. That said, there appears to be a random mix of uppercase and non-uppercase "recommended" even when describing the same general concept (e.g., the timer cited above is "recommended," while the timeout for processing DNS responses after a connection is "RECOMMENDED") -- I suggest an editing pass that generally looks at how these terms are used and ensures that normative versus non-normative uses are properly distinguished. The reason I'm focusing so carefully on normative versus non-normative language use in general, and on carefully making the algorithm itself non-normative in particular ties to the rationale for obsoleting RFC6555. In an earlier response to Mirja's DISCUSS, Tommy Pauly said: > A "simple" implementation of the 6555bis algorithm is still > aligned with the algorithm in 6555, and we would like to see > new implementations taking the nuances of the new algorithm > description into account. Which makes perfect sense. I've seen evidence that this point -- that an implementation of the RFC6555 algorithm is fully compliant with the v2 document -- has been broadly missed by the implementation community. See, for example: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/m/#!topic/net-dev/GQaqi5WVlPY (and, FWIW, I've had similar private feedback from the relevant decision makers inside Mozilla regarding web browser implementations). To clarify this situation, I think it is really necessary to include text in Appendix A that indicates roughly the same thing as Tommy's text above does. |
2017-10-23
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06 | Adam Roach | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adam Roach |
2017-10-23
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06 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Jon Mitchell. |
2017-10-23
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06 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot comment] I'm removing my discuss as the authors have confirmed that there is strong consensus in the working group to obsolete RFC6555, and … [Ballot comment] I'm removing my discuss as the authors have confirmed that there is strong consensus in the working group to obsolete RFC6555, and edited the text in the intro accordingly. As mentioned to the authors directly already, the abstract should mention this as well! Thanks also for addressing my other comments! |
2017-10-23
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06 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Mirja Kühlewind has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2017-10-21
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06 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alexey Melnikov |
2017-10-20
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06 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - No Actions Needed |
2017-10-20
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06 | Tommy Pauly | New version available: draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-06.txt |
2017-10-20
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06 | (System) | New version approved |
2017-10-20
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06 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: David Schinazi , Tommy Pauly |
2017-10-20
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06 | Tommy Pauly | Uploaded new revision |
2017-10-20
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05 | Eric Rescorla | [Ballot comment] This document should provide a rationale for why you are favoring v6 over v4 addresses when v4 addresses resolve first. Is there some … [Ballot comment] This document should provide a rationale for why you are favoring v6 over v4 addresses when v4 addresses resolve first. Is there some technical reason (e.g., it works better) or is there just a political reason (we want to push people to v6). I could live with either, but the document should be clear IMO. |
2017-10-20
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05 | Eric Rescorla | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Eric Rescorla |
2017-10-19
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05 | Benoît Claise | [Ballot comment] Someome id-nits: (See RFCs 3967 and 4897 for information about using normative references to lower-maturity documents in RFCs) … [Ballot comment] Someome id-nits: (See RFCs 3967 and 4897 for information about using normative references to lower-maturity documents in RFCs) == Missing Reference: 'Section 3' is mentioned on line 120, but not defined == Missing Reference: 'Section 4' is mentioned on line 164, but not defined == Missing Reference: 'Section 5' is mentioned on line 202, but not defined == Missing Reference: 'Section 6' is mentioned on line 169, but not defined Summary: 0 errors (**), 0 flaws (~~), 4 warnings (==), 3 comments (--). |
2017-10-19
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05 | Benoît Claise | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benoit Claise |
2017-10-16
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05 | Warren Kumari | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for Writeup |
2017-10-16
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05 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot discuss] I would totally be a yes on this document, but I would like to first discuss a processing issue: I do not agree … [Ballot discuss] I would totally be a yes on this document, but I would like to first discuss a processing issue: I do not agree with the assessment that this draft should obsolete RFC6555. The draft itself says: "This document expands on "Happy Eyeballs" [RFC6555]..." which sounds to me like an update. Further I believe RFC6555 is still a valid algorithm that can be used as specified, also RFC6555 provides probably more useful background info that is not captured by this new draft. I would recommend to update instead. Also, in any case the obsolete or update should to be mentioned in the abstract. |
2017-10-16
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05 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot comment] Question on the equation in section 5: "MAX( 1.25 * RTT_MEAN + 4 * RTT_VARIANCE, 2 *RTT_MEAN )" While it is not well … [Ballot comment] Question on the equation in section 5: "MAX( 1.25 * RTT_MEAN + 4 * RTT_VARIANCE, 2 *RTT_MEAN )" While it is not well explained how RTT_MEAN and RTT_VARIANCE are measured, I would recommend to just use *3RTT instead (where RTT is the value you have cached for a certain destination address, no matter how that has been measured/calculated), as RFC2988 says: "When the first RTT measurement R is made, the host MUST set SRTT <- R RTTVAR <- R/2 RTO <- SRTT + max (G, K*RTTVAR)" which translates to 3*R if you only have one value. I also don't think that is is necessary to talk about exponential backoff. To me that seems more confusing than helpful here. However, it might be helpful to note that 3*RTT also means that in the best case the handshake is already completed before you try the next address. And further, I would assume that you might still want to have a fixed max default value (of e.g. 300ms or 250ms?) because otherwise on paths where you have high delay sequential probing might be too slow, no? |
2017-10-16
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05 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Mirja Kühlewind |
2017-10-11
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05 | Kathleen Moriarty | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty |
2017-10-10
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05 | Warren Kumari | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2017-10-26 |
2017-10-10
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05 | Warren Kumari | Ballot has been issued |
2017-10-10
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05 | Warren Kumari | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Warren Kumari |
2017-10-10
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05 | Warren Kumari | Created "Approve" ballot |
2017-10-10
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05 | Warren Kumari | Ballot writeup was changed |
2017-10-06
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05 | Jean Mahoney | Closed request for Last Call review by GENART with state 'Team Will not Review Version' |
2017-10-06
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05 | Ron Bonica | (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? … (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard. This is appropriate because it describes procedures that hosts should execute when attached to dual-stack networks. The status is reflected in the header. (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary: Many communication protocols operated over the modern Internet use host names. These often resolve to multiple IP addresses, each of which may have different performance and connectivity characteristics. Since specific addresses or address families (IPv4 or IPv6) may be blocked, broken, or sub-optimal on a network, clients that attempt multiple connections in parallel have a higher chance of establishing a connection sooner. This document specifies requirements for algorithms that reduce this user-visible delay and provides an example algorithm. Working Group Summary: Strong WG consensus was achieved within six months of document introduction. Document Quality: Are there existing implementations of the protocol? The current versions of macOS (Sierra) and iOS (10) implement the Happy Eyeballs V2 spec as described. Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Yes Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? Comments were received from Mark Andrews, Mikael Abrahamsson, Jinmei Tatuya, Stephen Strowes, james woodyatt, Tim Chown and Sander Steffann Personnel: Who is the Document Shepherd? Who is the Responsible Area Director? Ron Bonica is the document shepherd Warren Kumari is the responsible AD (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. I re-read the document, re-read each of the mailing list comments and confered with my fellow ADs to make sure that they read consensus as I did. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. No (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. None (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why? Yes (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. No [ Update: 2017-09-16 by Warren Kumari -- the authors have informed us that have just learnt that there **may** be some IPR associated with the document, and are talking to their lawyer folk to get clarification ] [Update: 2017-10-6 by Ron Bonica -- Apple has disclosed IPR. See https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3077/. This disclosure came after WGLC. ] (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? This draft elicitted ~40 messages on the mailing list. Most were supportive, some had technical concerns that were addressed. (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. None (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. This document will be reviewed by the General, OPS and Transport Area review teams (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? No (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. This document obsoletes RFC 6555 (Happy Eyeballs V1) (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226). This memo includes no request to IANA. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. None (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. Nit-checker |
2017-10-06
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Jasmine Magallanes | Posted related IPR disclosure: Apple Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis | |
2017-09-28
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05 | Brian Weis | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Brian Weis. Sent review to list. |
2017-09-26
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05 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Zitao Wang. |
2017-09-26
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05 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call |
2017-09-22
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05 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - No Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed |
2017-09-22
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05 | Sabrina Tanamal | (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Services Operator has reviewed draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-05, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments: We … (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Services Operator has reviewed draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-05, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments: We understand that this document doesn't require any registry actions. While it's often helpful for a document's IANA Considerations section to remain in place upon publication even if there are no actions, if the authors strongly prefer to remove it, we do not object. If this assessment is not accurate, please respond as soon as possible. Thank you, Sabrina Tanamal IANA Services Specialist |
2017-09-20
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05 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Brian Weis |
2017-09-20
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05 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Brian Weis |
2017-09-16
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05 | Warren Kumari | (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? … (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard. This is appropriate because it describes procedures that hosts should execute when attached to dual-stack networks. The status is reflected in the header. (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary: Many communication protocols operated over the modern Internet use host names. These often resolve to multiple IP addresses, each of which may have different performance and connectivity characteristics. Since specific addresses or address families (IPv4 or IPv6) may be blocked, broken, or sub-optimal on a network, clients that attempt multiple connections in parallel have a higher chance of establishing a connection sooner. This document specifies requirements for algorithms that reduce this user-visible delay and provides an example algorithm. Working Group Summary: Strong WG consensus was achieved within six months of document introduction. Document Quality: Are there existing implementations of the protocol? The current versions of macOS (Sierra) and iOS (10) implement the Happy Eyeballs V2 spec as described. Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Yes Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? Comments were received from Mark Andrews, Mikael Abrahamsson, Jinmei Tatuya, Stephen Strowes, james woodyatt, Tim Chown and Sander Steffann Personnel: Who is the Document Shepherd? Who is the Responsible Area Director? Ron Bonica is the document shepherd Warren Kumari is the responsible AD (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. I re-read the document, re-read each of the mailing list comments and confered with my fellow ADs to make sure that they read consensus as I did. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. No (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. None (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why? Yes (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. No [ Update: 2017-09-16 by Warren Kumari -- the authors have informed us that have just learnt that there **may** be some IPR associated with the document, and are talking to their lawyer folk to get clarification ] (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? This draft elicitted ~40 messages on the mailing list. Most were supportive, some had technical concerns that were addressed. (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. None (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. This document will be reviewed by the General, OPS and Transport Area review teams (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? No (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. This document obsoletes RFC 6555 (Happy Eyeballs V1) (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226). This memo includes no request to IANA. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. None (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. Nit-checker |
2017-09-14
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05 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Zitao Wang |
2017-09-14
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05 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Zitao Wang |
2017-09-14
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05 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Jon Mitchell |
2017-09-14
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05 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Jon Mitchell |
2017-09-12
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05 | Wesley Eddy | Closed request for Last Call review by TSVART with state 'Team Will not Review Version' |
2017-09-12
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05 | Wesley Eddy | Request for Last Call review by TSVART is assigned to Janardhan Iyengar |
2017-09-12
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05 | Wesley Eddy | Request for Last Call review by TSVART is assigned to Janardhan Iyengar |
2017-09-12
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05 | Wesley Eddy | Request for Last Call review by TSVART is assigned to Janardhan Iyengar |
2017-09-12
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05 | Wesley Eddy | Request for Last Call review by TSVART is assigned to Janardhan Iyengar |
2017-09-12
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05 | Amy Vezza | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2017-09-12
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05 | Amy Vezza | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2017-09-26): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Ron Bonica , v6ops@ietf.org, rbonica@juniper.net, v6ops-chairs@ietf.org, … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2017-09-26): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Ron Bonica , v6ops@ietf.org, rbonica@juniper.net, v6ops-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis@ietf.org, warren@kumari.net Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (Happy Eyeballs Version 2: Better Connectivity Using Concurrency) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the IPv6 Operations WG (v6ops) to consider the following document: - 'Happy Eyeballs Version 2: Better Connectivity Using Concurrency' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2017-09-26. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract Many communication protocols operated over the modern Internet use host names. These often resolve to multiple IP addresses, each of which may have different performance and connectivity characteristics. Since specific addresses or address families (IPv4 or IPv6) may be blocked, broken, or sub-optimal on a network, clients that attempt multiple connections in parallel have a higher chance of establishing a connection sooner. This document specifies requirements for algorithms that reduce this user-visible delay and provides an example algorithm. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2017-09-12
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05 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2017-09-12
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05 | Amy Vezza | Last call announcement was changed |
2017-09-11
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05 | Warren Kumari | Last call was requested |
2017-09-11
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05 | Warren Kumari | Last call announcement was generated |
2017-09-11
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05 | Warren Kumari | Ballot approval text was generated |
2017-09-11
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05 | Warren Kumari | Ballot writeup was generated |
2017-09-11
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05 | Warren Kumari | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation |
2017-09-11
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05 | David Schinazi | New version available: draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-05.txt |
2017-09-11
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05 | (System) | New version approved |
2017-09-11
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05 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: David Schinazi , Tommy Pauly |
2017-09-11
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05 | David Schinazi | Uploaded new revision |
2017-09-08
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04 | Warren Kumari | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2017-09-07
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04 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Orit Levin |
2017-09-07
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04 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Orit Levin |
2017-09-06
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04 | Ron Bonica | (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? … (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard. This is appropriate because it describes procedures that hosts should execute when attached to dual-stack networks. The status is reflected in the header. (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary: Many communication protocols operated over the modern Internet use host names. These often resolve to multiple IP addresses, each of which may have different performance and connectivity characteristics. Since specific addresses or address families (IPv4 or IPv6) may be blocked, broken, or sub-optimal on a network, clients that attempt multiple connections in parallel have a higher chance of establishing a connection sooner. This document specifies requirements for algorithms that reduce this user-visible delay and provides an example algorithm. Working Group Summary: Strong WG consensus was achieved within six months of document introduction. Document Quality: Are there existing implementations of the protocol? The current versions of macOS (Sierra) and iOS (10) implement the Happy Eyeballs V2 spec as described. Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Yes Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? Comments were received from Mark Andrews, Mikael Abrahamsson, Jinmei Tatuya, Stephen Strowes, james woodyatt, Tim Chown and Sander Steffann Personnel: Who is the Document Shepherd? Who is the Responsible Area Director? Ron Bonica is the document shepherd Warren Kumari is the responsible AD (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. I re-read the document, re-read each of the mailing list comments and confered with my fellow ADs to make sure that they read consensus as I did. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. No (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. None (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why? Yes (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. No (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? This draft elicitted ~40 messages on the mailing list. Most were supportive, some had technical concerns that were addressed. (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. None (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. This document will be reviewed by the General, OPS and Transport Area review teams (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? No (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. This document obsoletes RFC 6555 (Happy Eyeballs V1) (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226). This memo includes no request to IANA. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. None (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. Nit-checker |
2017-09-06
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04 | Ron Bonica | Responsible AD changed to Warren Kumari |
2017-09-06
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04 | Ron Bonica | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
2017-09-06
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04 | Ron Bonica | IESG state changed to Publication Requested |
2017-09-06
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04 | Ron Bonica | IESG process started in state Publication Requested |
2017-09-05
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04 | Ron Bonica | Changed document writeup |
2017-09-05
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04 | Ron Bonica | Requested Last Call review by TSVART |
2017-09-05
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04 | Ron Bonica | Requested Last Call review by OPSDIR |
2017-09-05
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04 | Ron Bonica | Requested Last Call review by GENART |
2017-09-05
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04 | Ron Bonica | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2017-09-05
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04 | Ron Bonica | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
2017-08-28
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04 | Ron Bonica | Notification list changed to Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> |
2017-08-28
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04 | Ron Bonica | Document shepherd changed to Ron Bonica |
2017-08-28
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04 | Ron Bonica | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from WG Document |
2017-08-18
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04 | David Schinazi | New version available: draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-04.txt |
2017-08-18
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04 | (System) | New version approved |
2017-08-18
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04 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: David Schinazi , Tommy Pauly |
2017-08-18
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04 | David Schinazi | Uploaded new revision |
2017-08-02
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03 | David Schinazi | New version available: draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-03.txt |
2017-08-02
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03 | (System) | New version approved |
2017-08-02
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03 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: " dschinazi@apple.com" , Tommy Pauly |
2017-08-02
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03 | David Schinazi | Uploaded new revision |
2017-07-03
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02 | David Schinazi | New version available: draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-02.txt |
2017-07-03
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02 | (System) | New version approved |
2017-07-03
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02 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: " dschinazi@apple.com" , Tommy Pauly |
2017-07-03
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02 | David Schinazi | Uploaded new revision |
2017-06-05
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01 | David Schinazi | New version available: draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-01.txt |
2017-06-05
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01 | (System) | New version approved |
2017-06-05
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01 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Tommy Pauly , David Schinazi |
2017-06-05
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01 | David Schinazi | Uploaded new revision |
2017-04-10
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00 | Fred Baker | This document now replaces draft-pauly-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-update instead of None |
2017-04-10
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00 | David Schinazi | New version available: draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-00.txt |
2017-04-10
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00 | (System) | WG -00 approved |
2017-04-09
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00 | David Schinazi | Set submitter to "David Schinazi ", replaces to draft-pauly-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-update and sent approval email to group chairs: v6ops-chairs@ietf.org |
2017-04-09
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00 | David Schinazi | Uploaded new revision |