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Date and time 2020-10-22 14:00
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minutes-interim-2020-iesg-24-202010221400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 22, 2020 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Loon LLC) / Internet Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area


REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director


OBSERVERS
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Adrian Farrel
Mohit Sethi
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the October 8, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the October 8, 2020 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The minutes of the IETF 109 BoF Coordination Meeting were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archive. 

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 8, 2020 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-dhc-slap-quadrant-12 (Proposed Standard)
    
1.2.2 Document Actions
  NONE
    
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Robert Wilton and Warren Kumari to draft a charter for a proposed 
    IOTOPS Working Group.
  o Robert Wilton, Alissa Cooper, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari 
    to gather more data regarding the impact of COVID-19 on the IETF.
  o Ben Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8411, SMI Security for 
    Cryptographic Algorithms [IANA #1180561].

IN PROGRESS:
  o Warren Kumari to work on acknowledging shepherds, directorate 
    reviewers in a more standardized/formal way.
  o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text on Special Interest Groups and 
    send to the IESG for comment.
  o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
    updating the I-D Checklist.
  o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on guidance 
    regarding the number of document authors on documents. 
  o Alvaro Retana, Rob Wilton, Alissa Cooper, and Martin Vigoureux to 
    draft text on the framework for a long-term future plan for the 
    IETF. 
  o Roman Danyliw to draft text for a request to the Tools Team to move
    BoF requests from the BoF Wiki to the Datatracker. 
  o Alvaro Retana, Warren Kumari, and Barry Leiba to draft clarifying 
    text on Errata Best Practices.
  o Eric Vyncke to follow up on the suggestion at IETF 108 to share a 
    list of grammar checking tools with the community.
  o Roman Danyliw and Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for 
    RFC 8894 [IANA #1177950].
  o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 8876 [IANA 
    #1178766].
  o Martin Vigoureux and Alvaro Retana to work with Jay Daley on the 
    process for using EthicsPoint incident management software as 
    the mechanism of private feedback and anonymous reporting.
  o Barry Leiba to draft a policy about when to create and announce 
    mailing lists for new potential Working Groups in order to 
    facilitate discussion of the Proposed WG charters.
  o Erik Kline to find designated Experts for RFC  8915 [IANA #1179647].    

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items   
  o draft-ietf-6man-rfc4941bis-11  - IETF stream
        Temporary Address Extensions for Stateless Address
        Autoconfiguration in IPv6 (Proposed Standard)
        Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items    
  o draft-ietf-lwig-tcp-constrained-node-networks-11  - IETF stream
    TCP Usage Guidance in the Internet of Things (IoT) (Informational)
    Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Martin Duke and √Čric Vyncke.*
    
  o draft-ietf-cose-x509-07  - IETF stream
    CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE): Header parameters for
    carrying and referencing X.509 certificates (Informational)
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-model-automation-framework-07  - IETF stream
    A Framework for Automating Service and Network Management with YANG
    (Informational)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action 
Announcement once Robert Wilton confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.
   
  o draft-ietf-v6ops-slaac-renum-04  - IETF stream
    Reaction of Stateless Address Autoconfiguration (SLAAC) to Flash-
    Renumbering Events (Informational)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-slaac-renum-05  - IETF stream
    Improving the Reaction of Customer Edge Routers to Renumbering 
    Events (Informational)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Alissa Cooper, Erik Kline, Eric Vyncke, and Robert 
Wilton.*
   
3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-irtf-cfrg-argon2-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-cfrg-argon2
    draft-irtf-cfrg-argon2-12
    The memory-hard Argon2 password hash and proof-of-work function
    (IRTF: Informational)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The 
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that 
includes a conflict review response prepared by Roman Danyliw.

  o conflict-review-irtf-nwcrg-network-coding-satellites-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-nwcrg-network-coding-satellites
    draft-irtf-nwcrg-network-coding-satellites-14
    Network coding for satellite systems (IRTF: Informational)
    Token: Martin Duke

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The 
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that 
includes a conflict review response prepared by Marin Duke.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

  o Building Blocks for HTTP APIs (httpapi)
     AREA: ART (Barry Leiba)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Action announcement.

  o JSON Path (jsonpath)
     AREA: ART (Murray Kucherawy)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1180561] Designated expert for RFC 8411, SMI Security for 
    Cryptographic Algorithms (Benjamin Kaduk/ IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Russ Housley  
<housley@vigilsec.com> as the designated expert for RFC 8411.

6.2 Next steps on Vulnerability Reporting Guidance (Roman Danyliw)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.