Minutes interim-2024-iesg-10: Thu 14:00
minutes-interim-2024-iesg-10-202405021400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the May 2, 2024 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Deb Cooley / Security Area
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director 
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area
Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area
Orie Steele (Transmute) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area
Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area


REGRETS
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David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area


OBSERVERS
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Gary Coppeler
Greg Wood


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the minutes of past telechats

The minutes of the April 18, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the April 18, 2024 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the April 18, 2024 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

     o draft-ietf-core-oscore-edhoc-11  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-auth-announce-10  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-babel-rtt-extension-07  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-sidrops-cms-signing-time-07  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-jmap-sharing-09  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-taps-interface-26  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-taps-arch-19  (Proposed Standard)
     
1.2.2 Document Actions

     o draft-ietf-dtn-dtnma-14  (Informational)
     o draft-ietf-taps-impl-18  (Informational)


1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE: 

     o Orie Steele to find designated experts for  
       RFC-ietf-calext-jscontact-16 
       (JSContact Properties)[IANA #1361734]

     o Orie Steele to find designated experts for RFC 9536 
       (Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) Reverse Search) [IANA 
       #1363176].

     o Jay Daley, Dhruv Dhody, Eric Vyncke, Orie Steele, Mahesh 
       Jethanandani, Gunter Van de Velde to form a design team to gather 
       community feedback about meeting in China.


IN PROGRESS: 

     o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9530 (Digest 
       Fields) [IANA #1359278].

     o Roman Danyliw and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC 4858, 
       2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document Shepherds (original 
       statement October 2010), and 3) update the WG Chairs wiki to point 
       to the new IESG Statement.

     o Francesca Palombini to come up with a v2 proposal for trying 
       ALLDISPATCH again at IETF 120.

     o Paul Wouters to open up an issue with the Tools Team asking for 
       IANA to be notified about document state changes.

     o Paul Wouters to write a proposal for handling IANA review
       mailing lists.

     o All IESG to review Non-WG List Review spreadsheet and note
       which lists may be ready for closure and any needed AD Actions.

NEW: 

     o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9557 
       (Timestamp Suffix Tag Keys registry)[IANA #1363801]

     o Orie Steele to find designated experts for RFC 9560 
       (Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) Query Purpose Values)

   
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-rift-rift-23  - IETF stream
   RIFT: Routing in Fat Trees (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Jim Guichard
  
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*


 o draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-topo-yang-18  - IETF stream
   A YANG Data Model for Optical Transport Network Topology (Proposed
   Standard)
   Token: John Scudder

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Mahesh Jethanandani.*


 o draft-ietf-6lo-multicast-registration-18  - IETF stream
   IPv6 Neighbor Discovery Multicast and Anycast Address Listener
   Subscription (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Éric Vyncke

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Éric Vyncke confirms that the announcement is ready to 
be sent.


 o draft-ietf-uta-ciphersuites-in-sec-syslog-05  - IETF stream
   Updates to the Cipher Suites in Secure Syslog (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Francesca Palombini

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Paul Wouters.*

 o draft-ietf-ipsecme-multi-sa-performance-08  - IETF stream
   IKEv2 support for per-resource Child SAs (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

Paul Wouters formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send 
a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Roman Danyliw 
confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent.


2.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

 o draft-murchison-rfc8536bis-13  - IETF stream
   The Time Zone Information Format (TZif) (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Zaheduzzaman Sarker and Orie Steele.*


2.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-30  - IETF stream
   Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) Directed Return Path for
   MPLS Label Switched Paths (LSPs) (Experimental)
   Token: Jim Guichard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Jim Guichard confirms that the announcement is ready to 
be sent.


3.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

 NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 NONE

3.4.2 Returning items

 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

 o Mail Maintenance (mailmaint)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Murray Kucherawy. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.


4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

 NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

 NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1363748] Management item: media type application/stratum (IESG)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the registration 
of media type application/stratum.


6.2 [IANA #1363801] Designated experts for RFC 9557 (Timestamp Suffix 
Tag Keys registry)

The management issue was discussed. An action item was assigned to 
Francesca Palombini.


6.3 [IANA #1363815] Designated experts for RFC 9560 (Registration 
Data Access Protocol (RDAP) Query Purpose Values registry)

The management issue was discussed. An action item was assigned to 
Orie Steele.


6.4 Designated experts for RFC 9536 (Registration Data Access Protocol 
(RDAP) Reverse Search) [IANA #1363176]

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Andy Newton 
<andy@hxr.us> and Scott Hollenbeck <shollenbeck@verisign.com> as the 
designated experts for RFC 9536.


6.5 Designated experts for RFC-ietf-calext-jscontact-16 (JSContact Properties) [IANA #1361734]

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Robert Stepanek 
<rsto@fastmailteam.com> and Mario Loffredo <mario.loffredo@iit.cnr.it> as 
the designated experts for RFC-ietf-calext-jscontact-16.


7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)



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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.