Minutes interim-2024-iesg-21: Thu 14:00
minutes-interim-2024-iesg-21-202410171400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 17, 2024 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Deb Cooley (DHS CISA) / Security Area
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Jean Mahoney (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area
David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair
Orie Steele (Transmute) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area

OBSERVERS
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Adoulaye Moses
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the October 3, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the October 3, 2024 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The minutes of the IETF 121 BOF Coordination Call were approved pending edits.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 3, 2024 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-ietf-opsawg-tsvwg-udp-ipfix-14  (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-6man-pio-pflag-12  (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries-16  (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-dtn-bpv7-admin-iana-04  (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-tictoc-ptp-enterprise-profile-28  (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-nfsv4-delstid-08  (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-opsawg-mud-iot-dns-considerations-19  (Best Current Practice)
    o draft-ietf-sidrops-rrdp-same-origin-04  (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-grow-bmp-peer-up-05  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions

  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:

  o Deb Cooley to find designated experts for draft-ietf-gnap-core-
        protocol (GNAP Grant Request Parameters) [IANA #1373603].

  o Deb Cooley to find designated experts for RFC 9635 (Grant Negotiation
        and Authorization Protocol (GNAP)[IANA #1382992]

IN PROGRESS:

  o Zahed Sarker to find designated experts for RFC 9653  (Zero
        Checksum for the Stream Control Transmission Protocol) [IANA #1378063].

  o Orie Steele, Francesca Palombini, Murray Kucherawy, Mahesh Jethanandani,
        Warren Kumari to write draft of IESG statement addressing issue of
        credit in documents & the importance of capturing and addressing all
        comments as a necessary part of the consensus process, mostly
        pointing at existing advice.

  o Murray Kucherawy and Eric Vyncke to create a draft IESG statement
        about using 2119 language.

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo-12  - IETF stream
   Unaffiliated Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) Echo
   (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Eric Vyncke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Zahed Sarker.*

 o draft-ietf-jmap-calendars-20  - IETF stream
   JMAP for Calendars (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

 o draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sr-16  - IETF stream
   Performance Measurement for Segment Routing Networks with MPLS Data
   Plane (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Jim Guichard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be
completed by Jim Guichard. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-extra-6855bis-03  - IETF stream
   IMAP Support for UTF-8 (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be
completed by Murray Kucherawy. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-payload-registry-04  - IETF stream
   Closing the RTP Payload Format Media Types IANA Registry (Proposed
   Standard)
   Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Gunter Van de Velde.*

2.1.2 Returning items

 o draft-ietf-sidrops-rrdp-desynchronization-04  - IETF stream
   Detecting RRDP Session Desynchronization (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Warren Kumari

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

 NONE

2.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

 NONE

3.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

 NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 NONE

3.4.2 Returning items

 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 o Update to IANA Considerations (ianabis)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (October 24, 2024).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

 o Standard Communication with Network Elements (scone)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Zahed Sarker.
The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

 NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

 o Messaging Layer Security (mls)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1376075] IESG approval for application/toml (IANA)

The management item was discussed. The IESG approved application/toml
as a grandfathered standards-tree media type.

6.2 [IANA #1375267] IESG approval for protocol number (homa) (IANA)

The management item was discussed. This management issue will be
placed on the next telechat agenda for further discussion.

6.3 [IANA #1373603] Designated experts for draft-ietf-gnap-core-protocol (GNAP
Grant Request Parameters) (Deb Cooley)

The management item was discussed. The IESG approved Justin Richer
<jricher@mit.edu>, Joe Salowey <joe@salowey.net>, and Sudesha
Shetty <Sudesha.Shetty@gendigital.com> as the designated experts
for draft-ietf-gnap-core-protocol.

6.4 Approval of IESG Statement on Use of BCP 14 Key Words (Murray Kucherawy)

The management item was discussed. This management issue will be
placed on the next telechat agenda for further discussion.

6.5 IESG Statement Addressing Comments and Crediting Contributions (Orie,
Francesca, Murray, Mahesh, and Warren)

The management item was discussed. This management issue will be
placed on the next telechat agenda for further discussion.

6.6 [IANA #1382992] Designated experts for RFC 9635 (Grant Negotiation and
Authorization Protocol (GNAP)) (IANA)

The management item was discussed. The IESG approved Justin Richer
<jricher@mit.edu>, Joe Salowey <joe@salowey.net>, and Sudesha
Shetty <Sudesha.Shetty@gendigital.com> as the designated experts
for RFC 9635.

6.7 IESG Agenda for IETF 121 (Roman Danyliw)

The management item was discussed.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.