Minutes interim-2025-iesg-08: Thu 14:00
minutes-interim-2025-iesg-08-202504171400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the April 17, 2025 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat


ATTENDEES
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Mike Bishop (Akamai) / Web and Internet Transport Area
Matthew Bocci (Nokia) / IAB Liaison
Mohamed Boucadair (Orange) / Operations and Management Area
Deb Cooley (DHS CISA) / Security Area
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area
Gorry Fairhurst (Univ. of Aberdeen) / Web and Internet Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Andy Newton (ICANN) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair
Orie Steele (mesur.io) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area
Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area


REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director 
Jean Mahoney (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco) / Routing Area


OBSERVERS
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Sandy Ginoza
Bob Hinden
Suresh Krishnan
Warren Kumari
Nathan Sherrard
Greg Wood


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes


  The minutes of the April 3, 2025 Teleconference were approved. 
  The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.


  The narrative minutes of the April 3, 2025 Teleconference were
  approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.




1.2 Documents Approved since the April 3, 2025 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions


  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-multipath-dccp-23  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-extended-flags-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-regext-epp-delete-bcp-10  (Best Current Practice)
  o draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-21  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control-19  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension-09  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17  (Proposed Standard)


1.2.2 Document Actions


  o draft-ietf-pim-mofrr-tilfa-14  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls-18  (Informational)




1.3 Review of Action Items


DONE:


  o Orie Steele to find designated experts to replace Graham 
    Klyne in the Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) Schemes and 
    Permanent Message Header Field Names, Provisional Message 
    Header Field Names registries [IANA #1357864].


IN PROGRESS:


  o Erik Kline to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-ntp-update-
    registries (Updating the NTP Registries)[IANA #1412130].


  o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9678 (Forward 
    Secrecy Extension to the Improved Extensible Authentication 
    Protocol Method for Authentication and Key Agreement (EAP-AKA' FS)) 
    [IANA #1414422].


  o Mike Bishop to find designated experts for RFC 9725 (WebRTC-
    HTTP Ingestion Protocol (WHIP)) [IANA #1415864].


  o Roman Danyliw to work on adding a checkbox to the meeting 
    registration system asking people to identify they are willing 
    to serve as WG chair.


  o Roman Danyliw to take a look at Datatracker documentation of 
    document states and update as needed.


NEW:


  NONE


2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-client-server-38  - IETF stream
   NETCONF Client and Server Models (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Mahesh Jethanandani


The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to 
be completed by Mahesh Jethanandani. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.


 o draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-client-server-42  - IETF stream
   RESTCONF Client and Server Models (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Mahesh Jethanandani

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Eric Vyncke.*


 o draft-ietf-suit-trust-domains-10  - IETF stream
   SUIT Manifest Extensions for Multiple Trust Domains (Proposed
   Standard)
   Token: Deb Cooley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Mohamed Boucadair and Orie Steele.*


 o draft-ietf-anima-brski-prm-20  - IETF stream
   BRSKI with Pledge in Responder Mode (BRSKI-PRM) (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Mahesh Jethanandani

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Mike Bishop and Roman Danyliw.*


 o draft-ietf-6man-zone-ui-08  - IETF stream
   Entering IPv6 Zone Identifiers in User Interfaces (Proposed
   Standard)
   Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.*


 o draft-ietf-6man-addr-assign-02  - IETF stream
   Clarification of IPv6 Address Assignment Policy (Best Current
   Practice)
   Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Mohamed Boucadair, Eric Vyncke, and Paul 
Wouters.*


 o draft-ietf-uta-require-tls13-12  - IETF stream
   New Protocols Using TLS Must Require TLS 1.3 (Best Current Practice)
   Token: Paul Wouters

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Paul Wouters. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement.


 o draft-ietf-sipcore-callinfo-rcd-18  - IETF stream
   SIP Call-Info Parameters for Rich Call Data (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Andy Newton

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Andy Newton. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement.


 o draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv-16  - IETF stream
   Multi-Part TLVs in IS-IS (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Gunter Van de Velde

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Ketan Talaulikar.*



2.1.2 Returning items

 o draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc5321bis-42  - IETF stream
   Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (Internet Standard)
   Token: Andy Newton

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Andy Newton. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement.


2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items


 NONE


2.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

 NONE


3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items


 o draft-ietf-6man-eh-limits-19  - IETF stream
   Limits on Sending and Processing IPv6 Extension Headers
   (Informational)
   Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Mohamed Boucadair, Roman Danyliw, Gorry 
Fairhurst, Ketan Talaulikar, and Eric Vyncke.*


 o draft-ietf-6man-vpn-dest-opt-05  - IETF stream
   The IPv6 VPN Service Destination Option (Experimental)
   Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Ketan Talaulikar, Gunter Van de Velde, 
Eric Vyncke, and Paul Wouters.*


3.1.2 Returning items


 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

 NONE

3.2.2 Returning items


 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 NONE

3.4.2 Returning items

 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

 NONE


4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review


 o Operations and Management Area Working Group (opsawg)


The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised 
charter pending the addition of milestones to be provided by 
Mahesh Jethanandani. The Secretariat will send a WG Review 
announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The 
Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG 
Teleconference after the conclusion of external review.


 o Update to IANA Considerations (ianabis)


The revised charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order 
to resolve points raised by Mahesh Jethanandani and Mohamed 
Boucadair.*  


4.2.2 Proposed for approval

 o IOT Operations (iotops)

The revised charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order 
to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.*  


5. IAB news we can use


6. Management issues


6.1 [IANA #1414693] renewing early allocation for RFC 8111 (IANA)

The management item was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the 
early allocation for RFC 8111.


6.2 [IANA #1357864] Designated expert replacement for Graham Klyne 
    (Orie Steele)

The management item was discussed. The IESG approved replacing 
Graham Klyne with Mark Baker <mark@coactus.com> (primary) and 
Murray Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com> (backup) as designated 
experts in the Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) Schemes and 
Permanent Message Header Field Names, Provisional Message Header 
Field Names registries.


6.3 [IANA #1417100] Approve media type application/texinfo (IANA)

The management item was discussed. The IESG approved the 
registration of media type application/texinfo.


6.4 [IANA #1417154] RADIUS Types Specification Required registries 
    without experts (IANA)

The management item was discussed. The IESG approved Alan DeKok 
(aland@deployingradius.com) and Mohit Sethi (mohit@iki.fi) as the 
designated experts for these registries.


6.5 Interim Meetings

The management item was discussed.


6.6 Executive Session: RSWG Chair Appointment Process

The management issue was discussed in an executive session with 
the IESG, Secretariat, and IAB Liaison.


6.7 Executive Session: BCP 83

The management issue was discussed in an executive session with 
the IESG, Secretariat, and IAB Liaison.


7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.