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Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) Geo-Coordinates
RFC 10040

Document Type RFC - Experimental (September 2026)
Updates RFC 8060
Author D. Farinacci
Last updated 2026-09-15
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RFC 10040


Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)                      D. Farinacci
Request for Comments: 10040                                  lispers.net
Updates: 8060                                             September 2026
Category: Experimental                                                  
ISSN: 2070-1721

         Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) Geo-Coordinates

Abstract

   This document describes how Geo-Coordinates can be used in the
   Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) and defines a new LISP
   Canonical Address Format (LCAF) encoding for such Geo-Coordinates.

   This document updates RFC 8060.

Status of This Memo

   This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is
   published for examination, experimental implementation, and
   evaluation.

   This document defines an Experimental Protocol for the Internet
   community.  This document is a product of the Internet Engineering
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Table of Contents

   1.  Introduction
   2.  Requirements Language
   3.  Definition of Terms
   4.  Geo-Points in RLOC-Records
   5.  Geo-Prefixes in EID-Records and RLOC-Records
   6.  Geo-Points and Geo-Prefixes Examples
     6.1.  Locating a Package
     6.2.  Wireless Connectivity
     6.3.  Vehicular Networks
   7.  Geo-Prefix and Geo-Point Encodings
   8.  Backward-Compatibility Considerations
   9.  Security Considerations
   10. Privacy Considerations
   11. IANA Considerations
   12. References
     12.1.  Normative References
     12.2.  Informative References
   Acknowledgments
   Author's Address

1.  Introduction

   The Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) [RFC9300] introduces two
   new namespaces, Endpoint Identifiers (EIDs) and Routing Locators
   (RLOCs), which are intended to separate the semantics of identity and
   topological location from an IP address.  To provide flexibility for
   current and future applications, these values can be encoded in LISP
   control messages using a general syntax that includes Address Family
   Identifiers (AFIs) [AFN].

   This document defines a new LCAF encoding for Geo-Coordinates, which
   deviates from the structure defined in [RFC9179], because a more
   compact encoding was desired.

   This document updates [RFC8060].  In particular, the use of the Geo-
   Coordinates encoding defined in Section 4.3 of [RFC8060] and
   identified by LCAF type 5 is deprecated.  The LCAF type defined in
   this document is called "Geo-Location", and a new LCAF type has been
   allocated.

   The Geo-Location LCAF type is used in EID-Records and RLOC-Records.
   See [RFC9301] for which LISP messages contain EID-Records and RLOC-
   Records.

   This document is part of a development effort to include Geo-
   Coordinates in LISP.  It is not part of an "experiment", as not all
   Experimental RFCs are necessarily part of an experiment.  It is about
   the maturity level of the technology.

2.  Requirements Language

   The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
   "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and
   "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in
   BCP 14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all
   capitals, as shown here.

3.  Definition of Terms

   Refer to [RFC9300] for authoritative definitions for the basic terms
   "EID", "RLOC", and "xTR".  The terms defined in this section add to
   the canonical definitions to reflect the design considerations in
   this specification.

   Geo-Point:  A coordinate according to [GEO] that defines a point
      using the latitude, longitude, and altitude parameters.

   Geo-Prefix:  Forms a sphere (in three dimensions) of a geographic
      area made up of a Geo-Point and a radius.  A Geo-Point is known to
      be "more specific" than a Geo-Prefix when its physical location is
      within the geographic sphere.

4.  Geo-Points in RLOC-Records

   Geo-Points MAY be present in an RLOC-Record to determine the physical
   location of an Egress Tunnel Router (ETR) or Re-encapsulating
   Tunneling Router (RTR).  This can aid in determining geographical
   distance when topological distance is inaccurate or hidden.  When
   Geo-Points are encoded in RLOC-Records with RLOC addresses, the LCAF
   AFI-List Type SHOULD be used.

   Geo-Points MAY be used as the sole piece of information in an RLOC-
   Record when an EID maps to a Geo-Coordinate.  If it is desirable to
   find the geographical location of any EID, this method can be
   convenient.  For instance, let's say that an EID is assigned to a
   physical shipping package by a package delivery company and the EID
   is encoded as an IPv6 address where the tracking number is embedded
   in an IPv6 EID.  The network has LISP nodes deployed in many
   locations that are configured with their respective Geo-Coordinates.
   As the package roams, the LISP node that discovers the EID registers
   it to the LISP Mapping Database System.  The EID-to-RLOC mapping is
   EID=IPv6 and RLOC=geo-point.  If someone does a Mapping Database
   System lookup on the IPv6 EID, the Geo-Coordinate is returned.  As
   the EID roams, new registrations with different Geo-Coordinates are
   stored, allowing the physical tracking of the package.

5.  Geo-Prefixes in EID-Records and RLOC-Records

   A Geo-Prefix is defined to be a Geo-Point and a radius.  This allows
   a sphere to be drawn on a geographic map.  The Geo-Prefix can
   describe a coarse physical location for an RLOC when encoded in an
   RLOC-Record.  So, an RLOC could be registered in the Mapping Database
   System, indicating it is in a city or country versus the exact
   location where a Geo-Point would locate it.  For instance, a Geo-
   Prefix could allow a Distinguished Name [RFC9735] to be registered as
   an EID with an RLOC that contains a Geo-Prefix.  For example,
   EID="San Francisco", with RLOC=geo-prefix could be stored in the
   Mapping Database System.

   A Geo-Prefix, when encoded in an EID-Record, could be registered as
   an EID-Prefix, and when a Geo-Point is used as an EID lookup key, a
   sort of longest match could be looked up.  If the Geo-Point is in the
   sphere described by the Geo-Prefix, the matching entry MUST be
   returned to the Map-Requester.  In this context, what is returned is
   the Geo-Prefix with the largest radius value, which corresponds to
   the largest physical area.  If the Geo-Point supplied in a Map-
   Request matches several Geo-Prefixes in the Mapping Database System,
   then all Geo-Prefixes MUST be returned.  This uses the same
   overlapping lookup semantics defined in [RFC9301] for IP address
   EIDs.

6.  Geo-Points and Geo-Prefixes Examples

6.1.  Locating a Package

   You could take a combination of mappings from the above examples to
   ask the question: "Is the package in San Francisco?"  This could be
   done with two lookups to the Mapping Database System:

   Contents of Mapping Database System:
     EID=<dist-name="san francisco">
     RLOC=<geo-prefix-of-60-mile-radius-of-sf>

     EID=<ipv6-package-tracking-number>
     RLOC=<geo-point-of-current-location>

     EID=<geo-prefix-of-60-mile-radius-of-sf>
     RLOC=<dist-name="san francisco">

   Map-Request for package:
     EID=<ipv6-package-tracking-number>
   Mapping Database System returns:
     RLOC=<geo-point-of-current-location>

   Map-Request for Geo-Point:
     EID=<geo-point-of-current-location>
   Mapping Database System longest-match lookup returns:
     EID=<geo-prefix-of-60-mile-radius-of-sf>
     RLOC=<dist-name="san francisco">

   If the package is not in San Francisco, the second mapping table
   lookup would fail.

6.2.  Wireless Connectivity

   Another application is concentric rings of Wi-Fi access points (APs).
   The radius of each ring corresponds to the Wi-Fi signal strength.  An
   EID could be located in any of the inner rings and possibly on the
   edge of a ring.  A Wi-Fi AP RLOC can be selected to encapsulate
   packets because it will have a better signal to the current EID
   location.  In addition, when there are intersecting spheres, a good
   time to transition radios to closer Wi-Fi APs or 3GPP Radio Access
   Network (RAN) base stations is when the EID is in the intersection of
   the spheres.

6.3.  Vehicular Networks

   When assigning EIDs to vehicles [V2I-PROB], a Geo-Prefix could be
   used to create a "reachability set" of Roadside Units (RSUs).  So an
   Ingress Tunnel Router (ITR) could encapsulate to multiple RLOCs in
   the Geo-Prefix to try to create connectivity to the vehicle while
   roaming.  This makes use of predictive RLOCs [PRED-RLOCS] that can be
   used when the direction of the roaming EID is known (a train track or
   single direction road, but not a flight path of a plane).

7.  Geo-Prefix and Geo-Point Encodings

   When a Geo-Prefix or a Geo-Point is encoded in an EID-Record, it is
   encoded solely with the Geo-Location LCAF Type format when VPNs are
   not in use.  When VPNs are used, the Geo-Location LCAF Type is
   encoded in the 'AFI' field of the Instance-ID LCAF Type.

   This document has no provision to validate the Geo-Location values.

   The Geo-Location format is:

     0                   1                   2                   3
     0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |           AFI = 16387         |     Rsvd1     |     Flags     |
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |   Type = 17   |     Rsvd2     |            Length             |
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |U|N|E|A|M|R|K|    Reserved     |     Location Uncertainty      |
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |  Lat Degrees  |        Latitude Milliseconds                  |
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |  Long Degrees |        Longitude Milliseconds                 |
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |                            Altitude                           |
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |             Radius            |          Reserved             |
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |              AFI              |         Address  ...          |
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

                Figure 1: Geo-Location LCAF Encoding Format

   AFI:  Set to 16387 to indicate that the address is using the LCAF
      format from [RFC8060].

   Type:  17

   Rsvd1/Rsvd2/Flags:  See [RFC8060] for details.

   Length:  The length in bytes, starting with and including the byte
      after the 'Length' field.

   U-bit:  If the U-bit is set, it indicates that the 'Location
      Uncertainty' field is used.  If the U-bit is clear, it indicates
      the 'Location Uncertainty' field sent as 0 and ignored on receipt.

   N-bit:  If the N-bit is set, it indicates the latitude is north
      relative to the Equator.  If the N-bit is clear, it indicates the
      latitude is south of the Equator.

   E-bit:  If the E-bit is set, it indicates the longitude is east of
      the Prime Meridian.  If the E-bit is clear, it indicates the
      longitude is west of the Prime Meridian.

   A-bit:  If the A-bit is set, it indicates the 'Altitude' field is
      used.  If the A-bit is clear, it indicates the 'Altitude' field is
      sent as 0 and ignored on receipt.

   M-bit:  If the M-bit is set, it indicates the altitude is specified
      in meters.  If the M-bit is clear, it indicates the altitude is in
      centimeters.

   R-bit:  If the R-bit is set, it indicates the 'Radius' field is used
      and the encoding is a Geo-Prefix.  If the R-bit is clear, it
      indicates the 'Radius' field is set to 0 and the encoding is a
      Geo-Point.

   K-bit:  If the K-bit is set, it indicates the radius is specified in
      kilometers.  If the K-bit is clear, it indicates the radius is in
      meters.

   Reserved:  Reserved for future addition of bit fields.  These bits
      MUST be set to 0 when sending protocol packets and MUST be ignored
      when receiving protocol packets.

   Location Uncertainty:  Unsigned 16-bit integer indicating the number
      of centimeters of uncertainty for the location.

   Latitude Degrees:  Unsigned 8-bit integer with a range of 0 to 90
      degrees north or south of the Equator (northern or southern
      hemisphere, respectively).

   Latitude Milliseconds:  Unsigned 24-bit integer with a range of 0 to
      3,599,999 (i.e., less than 60 minutes).

   Longitude Degrees:  Unsigned 8-bit integer with a range of 0 to 180
      degrees east or west of the Prime Meridian.

   Longitude Milliseconds:  Unsigned 24-bit integer with a range of 0 to
      3,599,999 (i.e., less than 60 minutes).

   Altitude:  Signed 32-bit integer containing the height relative to
      sea level in centimeters or meters.  A negative height indicates
      that the location is below sea level.

   Radius:  Unsigned 16-bit integer containing the radius of a sphere
      (or circle if altitude not specified) centered at the specified
      coordinates.  The radius is specified in meters unless the K-bit
      is specified, indicating radius is in kilometers.  When the radius
      is specified, this LCAF type encodes a Geo-Prefix where the Geo-
      Coordinates define the entire area of the sphere or circle defined
      by the radius and center point.

   AFI/Address:  The 'AFI' field indicates the Address Family Identifier
      [AFN] [RFC8060] for the address in the 'Address' field.

8.  Backward-Compatibility Considerations

   EID-Records encoded with the Geo-Location LCAF are supported only by
   LISP nodes that support them for registration and lookup purposes.

   RLOC-Records encoded with the Geo-Location LCAF can be returned from
   the Mapping Database System lookups to LISP nodes that do not
   understand them.  In such situations, the RLOC-Record is ignored.

9.  Security Considerations

   The use of Geo-Coordinates in any application must be considered
   carefully to not violate any privacy concerns about physical
   location.  This document does take into consideration the
   applicability of BCP 160 [RFC6280] for location-based privacy
   protection.

   In a LISP environment, Geo-Coordinates can be registered to the
   Mapping Database System.  When this occurs, any Tunnel Router (xTR)
   is allowing its physical location to be known to queriers of the
   Mapping Database System as well as network components that make up
   the Mapping Database System.  There are various sets of trust
   relationships that may exist.

   When xTRs register their mappings with Geo-Coordinate information, a
   policy is associated about who can access the information.
   Typically, the policy is stored locally on the xTR and applied when
   the Mapping Service Provider (MSP) forwards Map-Requests to the xTRs
   of the LISP site.  Conditionally, based on the requesting xTR, the
   responding xTR can apply the local policy to decide if a Map-Reply is
   sent with all RLOC-Records or, perhaps, the RLOC-Records that do not
   contain Geo-Coordinate information.

   The MSP can also be requested by LISP site xTRs to proxy Map-Replies
   to Map-Requests.  In this case, the MSP MUST apply the xTR policy so
   only authorized requesters get access to Geo-Coordinate information.

   Note that once a requester is authorized, Map-Replies are returned
   directly to the requester and are signed as described in [RFC9303].
   The Map-Replies not only authenticate the Map-Replier but can be
   encrypted by the Map-Replier so no eavesdropping of Geo-Coordinate
   information can occur.

   In most deployment cases, there is no tracking of EID host-based
   systems since Geo-Coordinate assignment is typically registered for
   LISP xTR devices or other asset inventory.  However, since Geo-
   Coordinate-encoded RLOCs can be associated with any EID, tracking of
   hosts can occur if such an EID is assigned to hosts.

10.  Privacy Considerations

   In addition to controlling where LISP Geo-Coordinate mapping records
   go and applying policies (see "Security Considerations" section) for
   who can access them, there are additional steps that can be taken to
   protect against threats.

   The privacy guidelines in [RFC6973] can be implemented with existing
   LISP features, for example:

   *  Using signatures from [ECDSA-AUTH] can authenticate and authorize
      who can request such mapping records.

   *  Obfuscating a Geo-Point by using Geo-Prefixes uses data
      minimization techniques.

   *  Using short TTLs so the Geo-Coordinate mapping records are
      ephemeral reduces the attack window.

   The typical applicability for the use of Geo-Coordinates is to
   describe the physical location of well-known public structures,
   places, and landmarks rather than people, vehicles, and equipment.

11.  IANA Considerations

   Following the guidelines of [RFC8126], IANA has assigned the
   following value in the "LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) Types"
   registry [RFC8060]:

          +=======+=====================+======================+
          | Value | LISP LCAF Type Name | Reference            |
          +=======+=====================+======================+
          | 17    | Geo-Location        | RFC 10040, Section 7 |
          +-------+---------------------+----------------------+

                Table 1: Geo-Location LCAF Type Assignment

   In addition, IANA has marked LCAF type 5 (Geo-Coordinates) as
   deprecated in the "LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) Types"
   registry.  This type was defined in [RFC8060], which this document
   updates.

12.  References

12.1.  Normative References

   [GEO]      National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, "Department of
              Defense World Geodetic System 1984: Its Definition and
              Relationships with Local Geodetic Systems",
              NGA.STND.0036_1.0.0_WGS84, 8 July 2014,
              <https://nsgreg.nga.mil/doc/view?i=4085>.

   [RFC2119]  Bradner, S., "Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate
              Requirement Levels", BCP 14, RFC 2119,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC2119, March 1997,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2119>.

   [RFC6280]  Barnes, R., Lepinski, M., Cooper, A., Morris, J.,
              Tschofenig, H., and H. Schulzrinne, "An Architecture for
              Location and Location Privacy in Internet Applications",
              BCP 160, RFC 6280, DOI 10.17487/RFC6280, July 2011,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc6280>.

   [RFC6973]  Cooper, A., Tschofenig, H., Aboba, B., Peterson, J.,
              Morris, J., Hansen, M., and R. Smith, "Privacy
              Considerations for Internet Protocols", RFC 6973,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC6973, July 2013,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc6973>.

   [RFC8060]  Farinacci, D., Meyer, D., and J. Snijders, "LISP Canonical
              Address Format (LCAF)", RFC 8060, DOI 10.17487/RFC8060,
              February 2017, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8060>.

   [RFC8126]  Cotton, M., Leiba, B., and T. Narten, "Guidelines for
              Writing an IANA Considerations Section in RFCs", BCP 26,
              RFC 8126, DOI 10.17487/RFC8126, June 2017,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8126>.

   [RFC8174]  Leiba, B., "Ambiguity of Uppercase vs Lowercase in RFC
              2119 Key Words", BCP 14, RFC 8174, DOI 10.17487/RFC8174,
              May 2017, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8174>.

   [RFC9179]  Hopps, C., "A YANG Grouping for Geographic Locations",
              RFC 9179, DOI 10.17487/RFC9179, February 2022,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc9179>.

   [RFC9300]  Farinacci, D., Fuller, V., Meyer, D., Lewis, D., and A.
              Cabellos, Ed., "The Locator/ID Separation Protocol
              (LISP)", RFC 9300, DOI 10.17487/RFC9300, October 2022,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc9300>.

   [RFC9301]  Farinacci, D., Maino, F., Fuller, V., and A. Cabellos,
              Ed., "Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) Control
              Plane", RFC 9301, DOI 10.17487/RFC9301, October 2022,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc9301>.

   [RFC9303]  Maino, F., Ermagan, V., Cabellos, A., and D. Saucez,
              "Locator/ID Separation Protocol Security (LISP-SEC)",
              RFC 9303, DOI 10.17487/RFC9303, October 2022,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc9303>.

   [RFC9735]  Farinacci, D. and L. Iannone, Ed., "Locator/ID Separation
              Protocol (LISP) Distinguished Name Encoding", RFC 9735,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC9735, February 2025,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc9735>.

12.2.  Informative References

   [AFN]      IANA, "Address Family Numbers",
              <http://www.iana.org/assignments/address-family-numbers>.

   [BGP-GEO]  Chen, E., Shen, N., and R. Raszuk, "Carrying Geo
              Coordinates in BGP", Work in Progress, Internet-Draft,
              draft-chen-idr-geo-coordinates-02, 31 October 2016,
              <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-chen-idr-geo-
              coordinates-02>.

   [ECDSA-AUTH]
              Farinacci, D. and E. Nordmark, "LISP Control-Plane ECDSA
              Authentication and Authorization", Work in Progress,
              Internet-Draft, draft-ietf-lisp-ecdsa-auth-17, 26 July
              2026, <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-
              lisp-ecdsa-auth-17>.

   [ISIS-GEO] Shen, N., Ed. and E. Chen, "Carrying Geo Coordinates
              Information In IS-IS", Work in Progress, Internet-Draft,
              draft-shen-isis-geo-coordinates-04, 18 October 2017,
              <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-shen-isis-
              geo-coordinates-04>.

   [OSPF-GEO] Lindem, A., Ed., Shen, N., and E. Chen, "OSPF Extensions
              for Advertising/Signaling Geo Location Information", Work
              in Progress, Internet-Draft, draft-acee-ospf-geo-location-
              05, 18 October 2017,
              <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-acee-ospf-
              geo-location-05>.

   [PRED-RLOCS]
              Farinacci, D. and P. Pillay-Esnault, "LISP Predictive
              RLOCs", Work in Progress, Internet-Draft, draft-ietf-lisp-
              predictive-rlocs-15, 19 September 2024,
              <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lisp-
              predictive-rlocs-15>.

   [V2I-PROB] Jeong, J. P. and T. T. Oh, "Problem Statement for Vehicle-
              to-Infrastructure Networking", Work in Progress, Internet-
              Draft, draft-jeong-its-v2i-problem-statement-02, 19 July
              2016, <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-jeong-
              its-v2i-problem-statement-02>.

Acknowledgments

   The author would like to thank the LISP WG for their review and
   acceptance of this document and Kiran Makhijani for shepherding the
   document.

   Special thanks goes to Chris Hopps, Enke Chen, Acee Lindem, and
   Naiming Shen for collaborating on a Geo-Location encoding format that
   is consistent with OSPF [OSPF-GEO], IS-IS [ISIS-GEO], and BGP
   [BGP-GEO].

Author's Address

   Dino Farinacci
   lispers.net
   San Jose, CA
   United States of America
   Email: farinacci@gmail.com