Network Meeting Notes
RFC 82

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Network Working Group                               Edwin W. Meyer, Jr.
Request for Comments #82                                MIT Project MAC
Network Information Center #5619                        December9, 1970

                         Network Meeting Notes

   The following summary was transcribed from notes I took at three
   network meetings held in Houston during the 1970 Fall Joint Computer
   Conference.  Although I have tried to be objective, unavoidably these
   notes present a biased view of the meetings.  This is due in part to
   my preoccupation with certain topics and possible misunderstanding of
   various discussions.  While I have tried to accurately paraphrase the
   statements of the attendees, the import of some may have been
   twisted.

                        Attendees of Monday Meeting

   Dick Benjamin                           MITRE
   Jack Bouknight                          UI-CAC
   Al Cocanower                            MIRUT
   Steve Crocker                           UCLA
   Dough Engelbart                         SRI
   Richard Greenblatt                      MIT-MAC
   Eric Harslem                            RAND
   Frank Heart                             BBN
   Allen Joseph                            ORNL (Oak Ridge)
   Peggy Karp                              MITRE
   William B. Kehl                         UCLA
   Bob Long                                  SDC
   Jim Madden                              UI-CAC
   Bob Metcalfe                            MIT-MAC
   Edwin Meyer                             MIT-MAC
   Ari Ollikainen                          UCLA
   Tom O'Sullivan                          Raytheon
   Jon Postel                              UCLA
   Chris Reeve                             MIT-MAC
   Tjaart Schipper                         UCAL-CCN
   Michael S. Sher                         UI-CAC
   Bob Sundberg                            Harvard
   Hal van Zoeren                          CMU
   Albert Vezza                            MIT-MAC
   Alfred H. Vorhaus                       MITRE
   Clark Weissman                          SDC

Meyer                                                           [Page 1]
RFC 82                   Network Meeting Notes             December 1970

                              Network Meeting
                         8:05 PM Monday, 11/16/70

   Crocker: Not everybody is here, so lets talk until more people get
      here.  is everybody satisfied with the agenda in my announcement ?

   Meyer: We should talk about logger protocol.  Operational usage of
      the net- work, as opposed to experiments, depends on its
      implementation.

   Introductions to all around.

   Crocker: I have an agenda, but want suggestions for topics.

      1)  I will make introductory remarks.
      2)  I will list topics of concern.
      3)  Englebart will talk about the Network Information Center
      4)  I  will review the status of sites.

   Introductory remarks

      1)  ARPA will not pay for the coffee and pastry being served, so
          please chip in to help me pay for it.
      2)  I am going to devote full time to network coordination in an
          official capacity.  My goals are: (a) to build up usability of
          the network.  (b) to establish protocol levels, (c) ?

   Areas of importance

      1)  Some site of coalition of sites should prepare a method by
          which a site's NCP could be checked out.
      2)  Reworking of NCP protocol.  Some issues could be solved
          better:  (a) error control, (b) flow control, (c) overloading
          - loosing network states, (d) simplification and relayering of
          protocol.
      3)  Telnet system  console interaction, or logger protocol.  How
          to get into the system and how to get help when in trouble.
      4)  Documentation of individual hosts.  Network Info Center
          involved.  Perhaps each site could be provided with a
          facsimile device.
      5)  More sophisticated consoles, particularly graphics consoles,
          to be attached through network.  There should be a working
          group to formulate and workout a format for handling
          sophisticated consoles.  There will be a graphics meeting in
          January in Colorado or Utah.  The price of admission is to
          write a proposal.  I expect up to 30 people.  I will pick a
          small subset to develop specifications.

Meyer                                                           [Page 2]
RFC 82                   Network Meeting Notes             December 1970

      6)  Accounting - In the 2nd half of 1971 more sites will come on
          where accounting is important. (They want to send bills.)
          Larry Roberts says that there will be a kind of banking system
          with bills passed around.  Two types of sites: billing sites,
          and free but limited access research sites.  I see no
          fundamental problems.  What happens when a research site talks
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