2017-01-30: Minutes
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IAB, IESG and IEEE 802 Executive Committee
Minutes of the 30 January 2017 Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)

ATTENDEES
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- Jari Arkko
- Alia Atlas
- Deborah Brungard
- Alissa Cooper
- Ralph Droms
- Donald Eastlake
- Janos Farkas
- Norman Finn
- Bob Grow
- Jodi Haasz
- Ted Hardie 
- Bob Heile
- Russ Housley
- Pat Kinney
- Jouni Korhonen
- Suresh Krishnan 
- Cindy Morgan
- Paul Nikolich
- Erik Nordmark
- Dan Romascanu
- Dorothy Stanley
- Pat Thaler 
- Pascal Thubert
- Robert Wilton 


MINUTES
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1. Roll Call, Agenda Bashing, Minutes Approval 

  Dan Romascanu had one change to the draft minutes from the 9 September 
  2016 meeting; he will send that change to Cindy Morgan. If there are 
  no further changes, those minutes will be marked as final at the end 
  of the day on 31 January 2017.


2. Review of Other Action Items from Previous Meetings 

 IN PROGRESS:

  - IETF to give short presentation on MUD in IEEE. 

    Benoit Claise and Janos Farkas will coordinate on this.   

  - Suresh Krishnan to contact Scott Mansfield (IETF liaison to ITU-T) 
    about IMT2020 and 5G work    

    Suresh Krishnan will pass along the details on IMT2020 and the 5G 
    work from ITU-T to Jodi Haasz, Paul Nikolich, and Glenn Parsons.

  - Benoit Claise to identify a YANG doctor to review the 2 models 
    being worked on in 802.1 when they come to WG phases    

 DONE:

  - All to provide feedback on face to face meeting time.


3. Transition of the IETF Liaison to the IEEE Management  

  Dan Romascanu reported that he will be stepping down as the IETF's 
  liaison manager to IEEE-SA effective 31 January 2017. The IAB has 
  appointed Russ Housley to take his place. The group thanked Dan for 
  all of his hard work over the past few years and welcomed Russ.


4. 2017 Face to Face meeting 

  Noting that IEEE 802 has a plenary meeting in Berlin 9-14 July 2017 
  and the IETF has a meeting in Prague 16-21 July 2017, the group agreed 
  that Saturday, 15 July 2017 might be a viable date for a face-to-face 
  meeting in Prague. Russ Housley will send email to the coordination 
  list asking if this will work for people.

  If there is not a face-to-face meeting held on that date, the group 
  will need to schedule a teleconference for June 2017.


5. March 2017 meetings  

  BOF proposals for IETF 98 are due by 10 February 2017; the IAB and 
  IESG will meet to discuss the proposals sometime during the week of 13 
  February 2017.

  Dan Romascanu noted that there is a BOF proposal on In-Situ OAM that 
  may be relevant to 802; the work has already been presented in RTGWG 
  and OPSAWG.

  Paul Nikolich reported that IEEE 802 is expecting a PAR proposal on 
  multi gigabit and single twisted pair for automotive networking.

  Dorothy Stanley reported that IEEE 802 is planning a tutorial on new 
  work happening in 802.11. Dorothy will forward the materials from that 
  tutorial once they are available.


6. Areas of shared interest between the IETF and IEEE 802.

 Item 3. IETF NVO3 and IEEE 802.1 DCB

  Pat Thaler reported that getting comments on the 802.1 draft for NVO3 
  has been challenging. Alia Atlas said that if there was no feedback 
  received in the next two weeks, she and Pat will work together offline 
  to come up with people they can ask explicitly to review the document.

 Item 5. Enabling use of Local Addresses for virtualization and IoT 

  Pat Thaler reported that there is a draft in 802c that is in sponsor 
  ballot now.

  There may be some interest in using DHCP to assign MAC addresses. 
  Suresh Krishnan, Russ Housley, Ralph Droms, and Pat Thaler will 
  discuss this offline.

 Item 11. IETF and IEEE 802.1 OmniRAN TG

  Suresh Krishnan will take the current draft of P802.1CF-D0.3 to the 
  Internet Area mailing list and ask for feedback to be sent to Max 
  Riegel.

 Item 19. Common OAM proposal / Layer Independent OAM

  No update was provided.

 Item 21. 6tisch

  Pascal Thubert reported that work on the draft is progressing. Pat 
  Kinney reported that from the 802.15.12 side, it will include things 
  like 6lowpan and 6tsich. They have finished the architecture and are 
  now working on over-the-air interfaces.

 Item 22. CAPWAP extensions in OPSAWG

  Dan Romascanu reported that there is one document that the IESG 
  returned to the OPSAWG for further work.

 Item 24. Coordination between the IETF and IEEE 802 on Pervasive 
 Monitoring 

  No update was provided.

 Item 25. Layer2/Layer 3 Interaction for Time-Sensitive Traffic

  Jouni Korhonen reported that the design team hopes to have a first cut 
  of the data plane draft available within the next couple of weeks.

  Deborah Brungard noted that the list of relevant documents in the 
  shared items list needs updating; Dan Romascanu will update the list 
  accordingly.

 Item 27. Development of YANG models in the IEEE 802

  Robert Wilton updated the group on the 802.3 Ethernet Interface YANG 
  Task Force (802.3cf) and RMON MIB (RFC 3635). The slides are available 
  at <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2013/01/
  wilton_8023cf_ethernet_interface_statistics.pdf>.

  Robert Wilton asked if there are concerns about the current approach. 
  The group suggested that he check with Benoit Claise and the chairs 
  of the NETMOD and CCAMP WGs to for additional feedback.

 Item 28. Multicast on IEEE 802 wireless networks

  Noting that tutorials on this were held at IETF 95 and IETF 97, the 
  group agreed to close this item. Links to the tutorials will be 
  listed in the shared items document for reference.

 Item 29. Opportunistic Wireless Encryption (OWE) 

  Alissa Cooper reported that the draft about opportunistic wireless 
  encryption (draft-harkins-owe) is on the IESG telechat agenda for 
  discussion this week.

 Item 30. Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS)

  Russ Housley sent out an update on ITS via email prior to this 
  meeting. Dan Romascanu will update the shared items list accordingly.


7. Review of Action Items

  Updates to current action items are listed above under "2. Review of 
  Other Action Items from Previous Meetings."

 NEW ACTION ITEMS:

  - Russ Housley to follow up on the mailing list about a face-to-face 
    coordination meeting on 15 July 2017 in Prague. A decision on 
    whether or not to meet in Prague should be made by the end of 
    February; if the group decides against meeting in Prague, a 
    teleconference should be scheduled for sometime in June 2017.

  - Dorothy Stanley to forward materials from the March tutorials on new 
    work in 802.11 to the coordination list.

  - Suresh Krishnan, Russ Housley, Ralph Droms, and Pat Thaler to 
    discuss work on DHCP for MAC addresses (re item 5 on the shared 
    list).