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The Codecs Parameter for "Bucket" Media Types
draft-gellens-mime-bucket-04

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Date Rev. By Action
2012-08-22
04 (System) post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Sam Hartman
2012-08-22
04 (System) post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Russ Housley
2005-07-12
04 Amy Vezza State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy Vezza
2005-06-28
04 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent
2005-06-28
04 Amy Vezza IESG has approved the document
2005-06-28
04 Amy Vezza Closed "Approve" ballot
2005-06-28
04 Allison Mankin State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup by Allison Mankin
2005-06-28
04 Allison Mankin
Reply to the IANA request for clarification:  the 4 Media Types currently getting this parameter
do not need to have the template added to the …
Reply to the IANA request for clarification:  the 4 Media Types currently getting this parameter
do not need to have the template added to the registry.  (But it's an interesting question).
2005-06-28
04 Allison Mankin Checked all the review discussion and revision, and answered IANA's ticket, and then sent the
approve message.
2005-06-03
04 Russ Housley [Ballot Position Update] Position for Russ Housley has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Russ Housley
2005-06-03
04 (System) New version available: draft-gellens-mime-bucket-04.txt
2005-06-01
04 Sam Hartman [Ballot Position Update] Position for Sam Hartman has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Sam Hartman
2005-05-27
04 (System) Removed from agenda for telechat - 2005-05-26
2005-05-26
04 Amy Vezza State Changes to IESG Evaluation::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation by Amy Vezza
2005-05-26
04 Margaret Cullen [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Margaret Wasserman by Margaret Wasserman
2005-05-26
04 Mark Townsley [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mark Townsley by Mark Townsley
2005-05-26
04 Bert Wijnen [Ballot Position Update] Position for Bert Wijnen has been changed to No Objection from Undefined by Bert Wijnen
2005-05-26
04 Bert Wijnen
[Ballot comment]
!! Missing citation for Informative reference:
  P011 L014:    [3GPP-Codecs] TS 26.234, Third Generation Partnership Project

!! Missing citation for Informative reference: …
[Ballot comment]
!! Missing citation for Informative reference:
  P011 L014:    [3GPP-Codecs] TS 26.234, Third Generation Partnership Project

!! Missing citation for Informative reference:
  P011 L009:    [AMR] Sjoberg, J., M. Westerlund, A. Lakaniemi, Q. Xie, "Real-Time

!! Missing Reference for citation: [KEYWORDS]
  P003 L033:    [KEYWORDS].
2005-05-26
04 Bert Wijnen [Ballot Position Update] New position, Undefined, has been recorded for Bert Wijnen by Bert Wijnen
2005-05-26
04 Bill Fenner [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Bill Fenner by Bill Fenner
2005-05-25
04 David Kessens [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for David Kessens by David Kessens
2005-05-25
04 Alex Zinin [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alex Zinin by Alex Zinin
2005-05-25
04 Jon Peterson [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jon Peterson by Jon Peterson
2005-05-25
04 Michelle Cotton
IANA Comments:
Upon approval of this document the IANA is requested to add "Codecs" as an optional parameter to the media types audio/3gpp, audio/3gpp2*, video/3gpp …
IANA Comments:
Upon approval of this document the IANA is requested to add "Codecs" as an optional parameter to the media types audio/3gpp, audio/3gpp2*, video/3gpp and video/3gpp2* (* registration still pending).

For all media types defined in RFCs, the IANA points to the RFC to locate the registration template.  Should IANA add this document as a reference to the above mentioned media-types?  Will this be sufficient or is it necessary for a registration template also to be placed in the registry for these 4 MIME Media Types?  Please clarify.
2005-05-25
04 Sam Hartman
[Ballot discuss]
Section 3, 4 and 5 seem inconsistent.  Section 3 defines a namespace
for ISO file formats.  Section 4 says that this parameter requires …
[Ballot discuss]
Section 3, 4 and 5 seem inconsistent.  Section 3 defines a namespace
for ISO file formats.  Section 4 says that this parameter requires new
namespace definitions for namespaces that are not ISO file formats.
Section 5 uses examples that are not consistent with the mp4a and mp4v
defined in section 3.

If the 3gpp file formats are ISO files in the sense of section 3, then
section 3 should be expanded to define the necessary namespace entries
to make section 5 legal.  If the 3gpp files do not use the ISO
namespaces (as I suspect) then this document needs to define the
namespace they use.  In either case the examples need to be consistent
with the result.
2005-05-25
04 Sam Hartman [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Sam Hartman by Sam Hartman
2005-05-24
04 Ted Hardie
[Ballot comment]
While I agree with Russ's comment, I am not sure that this document
(or any single document) should make the call for which …
[Ballot comment]
While I agree with Russ's comment, I am not sure that this document
(or any single document) should make the call for which to give precedence
for all systems.  For some systems, getting a bucket mime type with wrong codecs
information may cause the system to throw an error; for others, if the codecs
indicated by the parameter are wrong but the ones inside are usable, other systems
may choose to render the content.  As I read the document it sounds like
MAY choose to render based on the internal codecs or MAY choose to respond
with an error is about all you could say.  There really isn't a way to render based
on the external codec parameter if the internal data isn't in that form.
2005-05-24
04 Ted Hardie [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Ted Hardie by Ted Hardie
2005-05-24
04 Russ Housley
[Ballot discuss]
This specification is needed.  However, it needs to say what an
  implementation ought to do if the MIME parameter contradicts
  media …
[Ballot discuss]
This specification is needed.  However, it needs to say what an
  implementation ought to do if the MIME parameter contradicts
  media content header information.  Does the media content header
  information take precedence?
2005-05-24
04 Russ Housley [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Russ Housley by Russ Housley
2005-05-24
04 Scott Hollenbeck [Ballot comment]
The reference to RFC 2234 could be updated to point to draft-crocker-abnf-rfc2234bis instead.  It's in the RFC Editor queue.
2005-05-24
04 Scott Hollenbeck [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Scott Hollenbeck by Scott Hollenbeck
2005-05-20
04 Brian Carpenter [Ballot Position Update] Position for Brian Carpenter has been changed to No Objection from Undefined by Brian Carpenter
2005-05-20
04 Brian Carpenter
[Ballot comment]
Editorial comments from Gen-ART review by Mary Barnes:

- Section 2, page 4: The paragraph starting with "Specifically," isn't grammatically correct at all.  …
[Ballot comment]
Editorial comments from Gen-ART review by Mary Barnes:

- Section 2, page 4: The paragraph starting with "Specifically," isn't grammatically correct at all.  I would suggest changing the "Specifically," to "This document specifically supports the following:"  and then replacing the "." with "," in the first three bullets and placing an "and" at the end of the third bullet.  Also, the identation for the first bullet is incorrect.

Per Fröjdh: The intention of this paragraph is not to say what the document supports, but to indicate the dimension of the current situation that the document addresses and resolves. The intention is to give specific examples: "Specifically, X can contain a, b or c. Y can contain d, e or f" etc.  Although I'm not an native speaker of English, I believe the paragraph would be grammatically correct by just making the suggested replacements of "." with "," and adding the "and".

- Section 3, page 5, first paragraph, last sentence is a bit awkward and inconsistent with sectin 4: I would suggest to simplify that sentence as "Future types which contain ambiguity are strongly encouraged to include this parameter." The normative inclusion of the parameter is appropriately addressed in section 4. If you feel it's important to discuss optionality in this section of the doc, then that last sentence should be modeled after section 4; e.g. "For future media types the parameter may be optional or required, as appropriate."

- Section 3, page 5, third paragraph under "Parameter value":  "An element MAY includes..." should be "An element MAY include..."

- Section 5, there's a missing double quote in the "Note:" section.
2005-05-20
04 Brian Carpenter [Ballot Position Update] New position, Undefined, has been recorded for Brian Carpenter by Brian Carpenter
2005-05-18
04 Allison Mankin State Changes to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for Writeup by Allison Mankin
2005-05-18
04 Allison Mankin Placed on agenda for telechat - 2005-05-26 by Allison Mankin
2005-05-18
04 Allison Mankin [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Allison Mankin
2005-05-18
04 Allison Mankin Ballot has been issued by Allison Mankin
2005-05-18
04 Allison Mankin Created "Approve" ballot
2005-04-11
04 (System) State has been changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call by system
2005-03-14
04 Amy Vezza Last call sent
2005-03-14
04 Amy Vezza State Changes to In Last Call from Last Call Requested by Amy Vezza
2005-03-11
04 Allison Mankin State Changes to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation by Allison Mankin
2005-03-11
04 Allison Mankin Last Call was requested by Allison Mankin
2005-03-11
04 (System) Ballot writeup text was added
2005-03-11
04 (System) Last call text was added
2005-03-11
04 (System) Ballot approval text was added
2005-02-17
03 (System) New version available: draft-gellens-mime-bucket-03.txt
2005-02-16
02 (System) New version available: draft-gellens-mime-bucket-02.txt
2004-10-22
01 (System) New version available: draft-gellens-mime-bucket-01.txt
2004-08-28
04 Allison Mankin State Changes to AD Evaluation from Expert Review by Allison Mankin
2004-08-28
04 Allison Mankin Note field has been cleared by Allison Mankin
2004-08-28
04 Allison Mankin
Finished ietf-types review:  no comments on the list.

My comments - email to go out.

Why are the codec name strings from the MPEG4 registry? …
Finished ietf-types review:  no comments on the list.

My comments - email to go out.

Why are the codec name strings from the MPEG4 registry? or only from there?
MIME registry suggests using MIME registered codec namespace. 
Even if the MPEG4 namespace remains here, should it not be provided in a
more durable form than a url?
The strings can include codec parameters as well as the codec type - this is
beyond the amount of optimization that should be here.  The idea is to give a
hint as to whether to open the object, not give all the codec information without
requiring the file object to be opened.
IANA instructions aren't clear enough.
2004-08-11
04 Allison Mankin [Note]: 'Sent to the ietf-types list for review.  Discussed PS status with the Apps ADs. ' added by Allison Mankin
2004-08-11
04 Allison Mankin State Changes to Expert Review from AD Evaluation by Allison Mankin
2004-08-11
04 Allison Mankin Intended Status has been changed to Proposed Standard from None
2004-08-11
04 Allison Mankin State Changes to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested by Allison Mankin
2004-07-29
04 Allison Mankin Draft Added by Allison Mankin in state Publication Requested
2004-06-16
00 (System) New version available: draft-gellens-mime-bucket-00.txt