Transmission of IPv6 Packets over Digital Enhanced Cordless Telecommunications (DECT) Ultra Low Energy (ULE)
draft-ietf-6lo-dect-ule-09
Yes
(Suresh Krishnan)
No Objection
(Alia Atlas)
(Alvaro Retana)
(Benoît Claise)
(Deborah Brungard)
(Jari Arkko)
(Joel Jaeggli)
Note: This ballot was opened for revision 08 and is now closed.
Suresh Krishnan Former IESG member
Yes
Yes
(for -08)
Alexey Melnikov Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2016-12-13 for -08)
3.1. Protocol Stack In order to enable data transmission over DECT ULE, a Permanent Virtual Circuit (PVC) has to be configured and opened between FP and PP. This is done by setting up a DECT service call between PP and FP. In DECT protocol domain the PP SHALL specify the <<IWU- ATTRIBUTES>> in a service-change (other) message before sending a service-change (resume) message as defined in [TS102.939-1]. The <<IWU-ATTRIBTES>> Typo: IWU-ATTRIBUTES
Alia Atlas Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -08)
Alissa Cooper Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2016-12-13 for -08)
(1) draft-ietf-6lo-privacy-considerations says: "Specifications should make sure that an IPv6 address can change over long periods of time. For example, the interface identifier might change each time a device connects to the network (if connections are short), or might change each day (if connections can be long). This is necessary to mitigate correlation over time." This document doesn't seem to provide any guidance about supporting the ability to change an IPv6 address. At least for non-link-local addresses, I think it would make sense to encourage the use of address generation schemes that align with the recommendation above given expected deployment scenarios. (2) draft-ietf-6man-default-iids says that the choice of address generation mechanism should be configurable when a mechanism is specified to embed a link layer address in an IID. Is there a reason that doesn't apply here? The document doesn't say anything about it for the link-local case.
Alvaro Retana Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -08)
Ben Campbell Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2016-12-13 for -08)
I agree with Alissa's comments. Otherwise, I just have a few nits: - Abstract: Please expand DECT. - section 1: The section could benefit from some paragraph breaks. - 3.2, first paragraph: s/ "implements already fragmentation"/"already implements fragmentation" -- 4th paragraph: s/"PP each have"/"each PP has"
Benoît Claise Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -08)
Deborah Brungard Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -08)
Jari Arkko Former IESG member
(was Discuss)
No Objection
No Objection
()
Joel Jaeggli Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -08)
Kathleen Moriarty Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2016-12-13 for -08)
I support Alissa's comment on privacy The SecDir review didn't get a response as far as I can tell. Simon had a question and a nit. I think the draft is okay on those points, but a response for the review would be good. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/secdir/3E1g-Ccfeq6U0fWcxc5kQ3FL_3w
Mirja Kühlewind Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2016-12-13 for -08)
One tiny comment: This sounds like a summary of what's specified in TS102.939-1 and therefore should probably not use normative language in this doc: "In DECT protocol domain the PP SHALL specify the <<IWU- ATTRIBUTES>> in a service-change (other) message before sending a service-change (resume) message as defined in [TS102.939-1]. The <<IWU-ATTRIBTES>> SHALL define the ULE Application Protocol Identifier to 0x06 and the MTU size to 1280 octets or larger. The FP sends a service-change-accept (resume) that MUST contain a valid paging descriptor. The PP MUST be pageable. Following this, transmission of IPv6 packets can start."
Spencer Dawkins Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2016-12-13 for -08)
I really appreciate the authors taking time to provide this much background for their specification. I did finish with some questions and comments, but if I understood the technology better, I'd be balloting Yes. Could I suggest replacing "an elderly pendant (brooch)" with "a pendant (brooch) for the elderly"? Because I was already picturing a very old brooch, I also misread "Generic Access Profile" as "Geriatric Access Profile" further down the page, but there's nothing you can do to fix that ;-) In this text, The used application protocol is negotiated between the PP and FP when the PVC communication service is established. I think you can delete "used", unless "used application protocol" is a term of art for DECT-ULA. In this text, A FP is assumed to be less constrained than a PP. Hence, in the primary scenario FP and PP will act as 6LBR and a 6LN, respectively. This document only addresses this primary scenario and all other scenarios are out of scope. Does "all other scenarios" just mean "scenarios where FPs are more constrained than PPs"? If so, that might be clearer. In this text, In consequence, the mesh header defined in [RFC4944] for mesh under routing are not used in DECT ULE networks. the term "mesh under routing" doesn't appear in RFC 4944. Did this mean something like "mesh underlay routing"? But if the point is that the mesh header defined in RFC 4944 isn't used, that's probably all you need to say. In this text, Although the TPUI is temporary by definition, the same value is usually repeatedly assigned to any given PP, hence it seems not suitable for construction of IID, see [I-D.ietf-6lo-privacy-considerations]. is this saying Although the TPUI is temporary by definition, many implementations assign the the same value repeatedly to any given PP, hence it seems not suitable for construction of IID, see [I-D.ietf-6lo-privacy-considerations]. ? This may be my own lack of knowlesge at fault, but I'm not sure I understand this text, It is expected that the LOWPAN_IPHC packet will fulfil all the requirements for header compression without spending unnecessary overhead for mesh addressing. I'm guessing that the point is that you don't have to put the mesh header in, to make header compression perform acceptably. Is that it? I think The DECT ULE implements already fragmentation and reassembly functionality, hence [RFC4944] fragmentation and reassembly function MUST NOT be used. should s/implements already/already implements/ Probably for my own education, but in this text Globally uniqueness of IID in link-local addresses are not required as they should never be leaked outside the subnet domain. if those addresses are leaked, does IPv6 Duplicate Address Detection prevent the obvious problems? Could you add a few words explaining why The DECT MAC layer broadcast service is considered inadequate for IP multicast. so the reader isn't left to guess?
Stephen Farrell Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2016-12-13 for -08)
section 3, last para: "PP node MUST NOT play the role of a 6LoWPAN Router (6LR)." I reckon that's a bogus MUST NOT. I think what you mean is that this spec doesn't define how a PP can be a 6LR. But a bit of h/w and s/w can clearly do both no matter how many MUST NOTs we write. (That may be a difference to the usual DECT setup, not sure.)