SNAC Router Flag in ICMPv6 Router Advertisement Messages
draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-08
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2026-07-07
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08 | (System) | RPC status changed to Awaiting Editor Assignment from ref_checker |
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2026-06-18
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08 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
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2026-06-17
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08 | (System) | RPC status changed to ref_checker from formatting |
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2026-06-10
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08 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor |
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2026-06-10
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08 | (System) | RPC status changed to formatting from blocked: Author Input Required |
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2026-06-10
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08 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to In Progress from Blocked |
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08 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from In Progress |
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08 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
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2026-06-05
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08 | (System) | RPC status changed to blocked: Author Input Required from Awaiting Editor Assignment |
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2026-06-05
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08 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to Blocked from In Progress |
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2026-06-05
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08 | (System) | RPC status changed to Awaiting Editor Assignment |
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2026-06-05
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08 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to In Progress |
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2026-06-05
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08 | Jonathan Hui | New version available: draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-08.txt |
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2026-06-05
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08 | (System) | New version approved |
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2026-06-05
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08 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Jonathan Hui |
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2026-06-05
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08 | Jonathan Hui | Uploaded new revision |
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2026-06-04
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07 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress from RFC-Ed-Ack |
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2026-06-04
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07 | (System) | Removed all action holders (IESG state changed) |
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2026-06-04
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07 | Morgan Condie | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
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2026-06-04
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07 | Morgan Condie | IESG has approved the document |
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2026-06-04
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07 | Morgan Condie | Closed "Approve" ballot |
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2026-06-04
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07 | Morgan Condie | Ballot approval text was generated |
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2026-06-04
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07 | Éric Vyncke | -07 contains the two minor fixes detected during the IESG evaluation. This document is good to go ! |
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2026-06-04
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07 | Éric Vyncke | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup |
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2026-06-04
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07 | Jonathan Hui | New version available: draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-07.txt |
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2026-06-04
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07 | (System) | New version approved |
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2026-06-04
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07 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Jonathan Hui |
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2026-06-04
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07 | Jonathan Hui | Uploaded new revision |
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2026-06-04
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06 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation |
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2026-06-04
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06 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Mohamed Boucadair has been changed to Yes from No Objection |
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2026-06-03
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06 | Christopher Inacio | [Ballot comment] Thank you for the short and simple draft. I also noticed the "transmit" vs "transit" typo. ;) |
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2026-06-03
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06 | Christopher Inacio | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Christopher Inacio |
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2026-06-03
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06 | Tommy Jensen | [Ballot comment] This is a straightforward and simple document that describes a well-scoped piece of a larger scenario. I have no objection or concern. |
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2026-06-03
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06 | Tommy Jensen | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Tommy Jensen |
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2026-06-03
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06 | Charles Eckel | [Ballot comment] Thanks to the authors and WG for keeping this draft short and clear. Thanks to Jen Linkova for the extremely helpful and up-to-date … [Ballot comment] Thanks to the authors and WG for keeping this draft short and clear. Thanks to Jen Linkova for the extremely helpful and up-to-date shepherds' write-up. |
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2026-06-03
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06 | Charles Eckel | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Charles Eckel |
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2026-06-03
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06 | Mike Bishop | [Ballot comment] I don't object, but it's unclear to me why a separate document is needed when it appears everything of relevance is in the … [Ballot comment] I don't object, but it's unclear to me why a separate document is needed when it appears everything of relevance is in the other document. Isn't this what Early Allocation is for? |
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2026-06-03
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06 | Mike Bishop | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mike Bishop |
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2026-06-03
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06 | Andy Newton | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Andy Newton |
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2026-06-03
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06 | Jim Guichard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jim Guichard |
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2026-06-02
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06 | Ketan Talaulikar | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ketan Talaulikar |
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2026-06-02
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06 | Gunter Van de Velde | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gunter Van de Velde |
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2026-06-01
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06 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] Thank you to Gyan Mishra for the GENART review. |
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2026-06-01
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06 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
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2026-06-01
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06 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot comment] Thanks to both Prachi Jain and Shivan Sahib for their secdir reviews. Section 1, first sentence: Perhaps 'transmit' should be 'transit'? Section 1, … [Ballot comment] Thanks to both Prachi Jain and Shivan Sahib for their secdir reviews. Section 1, first sentence: Perhaps 'transmit' should be 'transit'? Section 1, para 2: Spell out ND the first time it appears (it is not on the well-known list). I look forward to balloting on draft-ietf-snac-simple, apparently most of the security considerations will be there. |
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2026-06-01
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06 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deb Cooley |
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2026-05-25
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06 | Gorry Fairhurst | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gorry Fairhurst |
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2026-05-24
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06 | Prachi Jain | Request for IETF Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: Prachi Jain. Sent review to list. |
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2026-05-22
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06 | Gyan Mishra | Request for IETF Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Gyan Mishra. Sent review to list. Submission of review completed at an earlier date. |
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2026-05-22
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06 | Gyan Mishra | Request for IETF Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Gyan Mishra. |
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2026-05-21
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06 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot comment] Hi Jonathan, 6MAN, Thank you for the effort put into the new revision to unlock cluster C525. My suggestions were already addressed [1][2]. … [Ballot comment] Hi Jonathan, 6MAN, Thank you for the effort put into the new revision to unlock cluster C525. My suggestions were already addressed [1][2]. I have no additional comments. Cheers, Med [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/jfI9KJzIS4t6_WHQdptVwLTs4dI/ [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/x1_mGXd5LiZ9dposM-e3sHtx6fU/ |
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2026-05-21
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06 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mohamed Boucadair |
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2026-05-21
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06 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot comment] Quick refresh, and a copy from the shepherd write-up: --- The document was retuned to the 6MAN working to resolve an issue with … [Ballot comment] Quick refresh, and a copy from the shepherd write-up: --- The document was retuned to the 6MAN working to resolve an issue with a normative reference to . After discussion at the last IETF meeting and on the list, a way to make that reference Informative was developed, the current version does that. The changes can be seen in this diff: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-03&url2=draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-04&difftype=--html --- I.e., beside the above discussion, some other changes were done. |
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2026-05-21
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06 | Éric Vyncke | Ballot comment text updated for Éric Vyncke |
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2026-05-21
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06 | Éric Vyncke | Telechat date has been changed to 2026-06-04 (Previous date was 2024-12-05) |
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2026-05-21
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06 | Éric Vyncke | Ballot has been issued |
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2026-05-21
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06 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke |
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2026-05-21
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06 | Éric Vyncke | Created "Approve" ballot |
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2026-05-21
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06 | Éric Vyncke | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
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2026-05-21
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06 | Éric Vyncke | Ballot writeup was changed |
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2026-05-18
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06 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
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2026-05-13
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06 | David Dong | IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-06. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon … IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-06. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete. In the IPv6 ND Router Advertisement Flags registry in the Internet Control Message Protocol version 6 (ICMPv6) Parameters registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/icmpv6-parameters/ the existing registration for: RA Option Bit: 6 Description: S - SNAC Router Flag will have its reference changed to [ RFC-to-be ]. We understand that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document. NOTE: The action requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the action that will be performed. For definitions of IANA review states, please see: https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/iana-review Thank you, David Dong IANA Services Sr. Specialist |
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2026-05-13
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06 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
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2026-05-10
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06 | Tero Kivinen | Request for IETF Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Prachi Jain |
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2026-05-09
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06 | Shivan Sahib | Assignment of request for IETF Last Call review by SECDIR to Shivan Sahib was rejected |
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2026-05-09
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06 | Tero Kivinen | Request for IETF Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Shivan Sahib |
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2026-05-07
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06 | Peter Yee | Request for IETF Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Gyan Mishra |
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2026-05-04
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06 | Morgan Condie | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2026-05-18): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: 6man-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag@ietf.org, evyncke@cisco.com, furry13@gmail.com, ipv6@ietf.org … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2026-05-18): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: 6man-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag@ietf.org, evyncke@cisco.com, furry13@gmail.com, ipv6@ietf.org Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (SNAC Router Flag in ICMPv6 Router Advertisement Messages) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the IPv6 Maintenance WG (6man) to consider the following document: - 'SNAC Router Flag in ICMPv6 Router Advertisement Messages' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2026-05-18. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document defines a new flag, the SNAC Router flag, in the Router Advertisement message that can be used to distinguish configuration information sent by SNAC routers from information sent by transit routers. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
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2026-05-04
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06 | Morgan Condie | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
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2026-05-04
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06 | Morgan Condie | Last call announcement was generated |
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2026-05-03
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06 | Éric Vyncke | Last call was requested |
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2026-05-03
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06 | Éric Vyncke | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::External Party |
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2026-05-03
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06 | Éric Vyncke | Last call announcement was changed |
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2026-05-03
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06 | Bob Hinden | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? The document has been extensively discussed on the list and during 6MAN sessions for the last few IETFs. It should be noted that the document just defines a single bit, while all details about sematnics of that bit are in scope for the SNAC WG. So the support was expressed mostly by participants who are active in both areas (6man and snac), but it was a broad agreement between them that the document is useful (even crucial for SNAC) and shall be moved forward. The document was retuned to the 6MAN working to resolve an issue with a normative reference to . After discussion at the last IETF meeting and on the list, a way to make that reference Informative was developed, the current version does that. The changes can be seen in this diff: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-03&url2=draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-04&difftype=--html A new working group last call was completed on 2026-04-23. This resulted in a few other changes to clarify the document. The chairs believe there is a consensus to advance again the document to the IESG. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No, the content of the draft did not cause any controversy. The topic of which group this document belongs (6man or SNAC) was discussed extensively (see #5 below). 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? The OpenThread project already implements this: https://github.com/openthread/openthread The author believes that practically all Thread-based products (including Thread Border Routers in-market and in-development) incorporate the OpenThread implementation. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The sole purpose of this document is to request an RA flag, which will be used by SNAC routers. Semantics of the flag and how the flag is processed by SNAC routers are defined in draft-ietf-snac-simple, which belongs to the SNAC WG. So yes, this document closely interacts with SNAC. Interaction of this draft with the SNAC was discussed extensively at IETF119 and on the mailing lists. In particular, both WGs (and their chairs) spent substential amoutn of time discussion: - should the flag be defined in a dedicated draft or should it be a part of draft-ietf-snac-simple? - if it's a separate draft (snac-router-ra-flag), which WG does it belong to - 6MAN or SNAC - and which group shall adopt it? After the decision was made to have a separate draft, the draft content was reviewed by the SNAC WG. The WGLC email was forwared to teh SNAC mailing list and a number of active SNAC participants expressed their support for advancing the draft. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No such review required. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? The document contains no YANG module. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. The document contains no such sections. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? I believe that the document defines a key component of the SNAC framework, and, therefore, is very much needed. The document is well-written and is ready to be advanced. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? I've reviewed the list of issues and the document. I do not believe the document contains any of those issues. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard. This document defines a new Router Advertisement flag, and therefore needs to be a standard. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The author is not aware of any IPR claims. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The document has one author, who confirmed his willingness to be listed as such. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) I do not see any remaining nits in the document. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. We believe the current set of references are correct. As stated above in Document History, this version of the document changed the reference for to Informative to allow this document to be published. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? There are no such references. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No such references. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? No. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No, publication of this document does not affect any existing RFCs. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). - The document requires IANA to allocate a new flag from the "IPv6 ND Router Advertisement flags" registry. The registry is clearly identified and the reference to the registry is included as a normative one. Actually an early allocation has been made already, so IANA is happy ;) 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. There are no new IANA registries defined or referenced in this document. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
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2026-05-03
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06 | Éric Vyncke | Waiting for a revised shepherd's write-up. |
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2026-05-03
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06 | Éric Vyncke | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::External Party from Publication Requested |
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2026-05-02
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06 | Bob Hinden | Note: The document was retuned to the 6MAN working to resolve an issue with a normative reference to . This version of the document does … Note: The document was retuned to the 6MAN working to resolve an issue with a normative reference to . This version of the document does that, the changes can be seen in this diff: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-03&url2=draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-04&difftype=--html A new working group last call was completed on 2026-04-23. This resulted in a few other changes to clarify the document. The chairs believe there is a consensus to advance again the document to the IESG. # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? The document has been extensively discussed on the list and during 6MAN sessions for the last few IETFs. It should be noted that the document just defines a single bit, while all details about sematnics of that bit are in scope for the SNAC WG. So the support was expressed mostly by participants who are active in both areas (6man and snac), but it was a broad agreement between them that the document is useful (even crucial for SNAC) and shall be moved forward. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No, the content of the draft did not cause any controversy. The topic of which group this document belongs (6man or SNAC) was discussed extensively (see #5 below). 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? The OpenThread project already implements this: https://github.com/openthread/openthread The author believes that practically all Thread-based products (including Thread Border Routers in-market and in-development) incorporate the OpenThread implementation. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The sole purpose of this document is to request an RA flag, which will be used by SNAC routers. Semantics of the flag and how the flag is processed by SNAC routers are defined in draft-ietf-snac-simple, which belongs to the SNAC WG. So yes, this document closely interacts with SNAC. Interaction of this draft with the SNAC was discussed extensively at IETF119 and on the mailing lists. In particular, both WGs (and their chairs) spent substential amoutn of time discussion: - should the flag be defined in a dedicated draft or should it be a part of draft-ietf-snac-simple? - if it's a separate draft (snac-router-ra-flag), which WG does it belong to - 6MAN or SNAC - and which group shall adopt it? After the decision was made to have a separate draft, the draft content was reviewed by the SNAC WG. The WGLC email was forwared to teh SNAC mailing list and a number of active SNAC participants expressed their support for advancing the draft. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No such review required. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? The document contains no YANG module. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. The document contains no such sections. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? I believe that the document defines a key component of the SNAC framework, and, therefore, is very much needed. The document is well-written and is ready to be advanced. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? I've reviewed the list of issues and the document. I do not believe the document contains any of those issues. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard. This document defines a new Router Advertisement flag, and therefore needs to be a standard. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The author is not aware of any IPR claims. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The document has one author, who confirmed his willingness to be listed as such. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) I do not see any remaining nits in the document. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. The document doesn't contain any informative references. It contains only 5 normative ones and, in my opinion, they all should be normative: - RFC2119 and RFC8174 need to be normative as they concern normative language. - RFC4861 needs to be normative as it defines the Router Advertisement format, and this document defines a bit in the RA. - IANA-RA-FLAGS refers to the IANA registry the new flag is to allocated from, so it's also a normative reference. - I-D.ietf-snac-simple defines the semantics of the flag, therefore ietf-snac-simple must be read to understand or implement the new RA flag, at least on the client side. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? There are no such references. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No such references. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? Yes, this document contains a normative reference to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-snac-simple/ The authors of draft-ietf-snac-simple and the SNAC WG chairs believe that the document is progressing fast and is expected to be ready for the WGLC around IETF122. The author of draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag is aware that draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag can not be published before draft-ietf-snac-simple. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No, publication of this document does not affect any existing RFCs. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). - The document requires IANA to allocate a new flag from the "IPv6 ND Router Advertisement flags" registry. The registry is clearly identified and the reference to the registry is included as a normative one. Actually an early allocation has been made already, so IANA is happy ;) 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. There are no new IANA registries defined or referenced in this document. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
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2026-05-02
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06 | Bob Hinden | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from In WG Last Call |
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2026-05-02
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06 | Bob Hinden | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists |
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2026-05-02
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06 | (System) | Changed action holders to Éric Vyncke (IESG state changed) |
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2026-05-02
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06 | Bob Hinden | Document is now in IESG state Publication Requested |
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2026-05-02
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06 | Bob Hinden | Note: The document was retuned to the 6MAN working to resolve an issue with a normative reference to . This version of the document does … Note: The document was retuned to the 6MAN working to resolve an issue with a normative reference to . This version of the document does that, the changes can be seen in this diff: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-03&url2=draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-04&difftype=--html A new working group last call was completed on 2026-04-23. This resulted in a few other changes to clarify the document. The chairs believe there is a consensus to advance again the document to the IESG. # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? The document has been extensively discussed on the list and during 6MAN sessions for the last few IETFs. It should be noted that the document just defines a single bit, while all details about sematnics of that bit are in scope for the SNAC WG. So the support was expressed mostly by participants who are active in both areas (6man and snac), but it was a broad agreement between them that the document is useful (even crucial for SNAC) and shall be moved forward. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No, the content of the draft did not cause any controversy. The topic of which group this document belongs (6man or SNAC) was discussed extensively (see #5 below). 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? The OpenThread project already implements this: https://github.com/openthread/openthread The author believes that practically all Thread-based products (including Thread Border Routers in-market and in-development) incorporate the OpenThread implementation. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The sole purpose of this document is to request an RA flag, which will be used by SNAC routers. Semantics of the flag and how the flag is processed by SNAC routers are defined in draft-ietf-snac-simple, which belongs to the SNAC WG. So yes, this document closely interacts with SNAC. Interaction of this draft with the SNAC was discussed extensively at IETF119 and on the mailing lists. In particular, both WGs (and their chairs) spent substential amoutn of time discussion: - should the flag be defined in a dedicated draft or should it be a part of draft-ietf-snac-simple? - if it's a separate draft (snac-router-ra-flag), which WG does it belong to - 6MAN or SNAC - and which group shall adopt it? After the decision was made to have a separate draft, the draft content was reviewed by the SNAC WG. The WGLC email was forwared to teh SNAC mailing list and a number of active SNAC participants expressed their support for advancing the draft. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No such review required. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? The document contains no YANG module. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. The document contains no such sections. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? I believe that the document defines a key component of the SNAC framework, and, therefore, is very much needed. The document is well-written and is ready to be advanced. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? I've reviewed the list of issues and the document. I do not believe the document contains any of those issues. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard. This document defines a new Router Advertisement flag, and therefore needs to be a standard. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The author is not aware of any IPR claims. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The document has one author, who confirmed his willingness to be listed as such. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) I do not see any remaining nits in the document. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. The document doesn't contain any informative references. It contains only 5 normative ones and, in my opinion, they all should be normative: - RFC2119 and RFC8174 need to be normative as they concern normative language. - RFC4861 needs to be normative as it defines the Router Advertisement format, and this document defines a bit in the RA. - IANA-RA-FLAGS refers to the IANA registry the new flag is to allocated from, so it's also a normative reference. - I-D.ietf-snac-simple defines the semantics of the flag, therefore ietf-snac-simple must be read to understand or implement the new RA flag, at least on the client side. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? There are no such references. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No such references. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? Yes, this document contains a normative reference to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-snac-simple/ The authors of draft-ietf-snac-simple and the SNAC WG chairs believe that the document is progressing fast and is expected to be ready for the WGLC around IETF122. The author of draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag is aware that draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag can not be published before draft-ietf-snac-simple. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No, publication of this document does not affect any existing RFCs. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). - The document requires IANA to allocate a new flag from the "IPv6 ND Router Advertisement flags" registry. The registry is clearly identified and the reference to the registry is included as a normative one. Actually an early allocation has been made already, so IANA is happy ;) 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. There are no new IANA registries defined or referenced in this document. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
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2026-04-09
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06 | Bob Hinden | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from Submitted to IESG for Publication |
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2026-04-08
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06 | Jonathan Hui | New version available: draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-06.txt |
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2026-04-08
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06 | Jonathan Hui | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Jonathan Hui) |
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2026-04-08
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06 | Jonathan Hui | Uploaded new revision |
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2026-04-08
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05 | Jonathan Hui | New version available: draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-05.txt |
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2026-04-08
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05 | Jonathan Hui | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Jonathan Hui) |
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2026-04-08
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05 | Jonathan Hui | Uploaded new revision |
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2026-04-02
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04 | Jonathan Hui | New version available: draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-04.txt |
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2026-04-02
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04 | Jonathan Hui | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Jonathan Hui) |
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2026-04-02
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04 | Jonathan Hui | Uploaded new revision |
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2026-04-02
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03 | Éric Vyncke | Shepherding AD changed to Éric Vyncke |
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2026-04-02
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03 | Éric Vyncke | draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag has currently a normative reference to draft-ietf-snac-simple, which is ready for publication before months (not to mention dependencies to DNSSD drafts), i.e., it … draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag has currently a normative reference to draft-ietf-snac-simple, which is ready for publication before months (not to mention dependencies to DNSSD drafts), i.e., it blocks the whole Cluster C525... The I-D is sent back to the 6MAN WG to check whether the WG agrees with changing the reference to snac-simple to informative. This is probably a case where it is unclear whether normative was the right choice. Mohamed Boucadair and others will submit text changes in sections 1 and 3 of draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag to allow this change of reference types. |
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2026-04-02
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03 | (System) | Changed action holders to Erik Kline (IESG state changed) |
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2026-04-02
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03 | Éric Vyncke | IESG state changed to I-D Exists from RFC Ed Queue |
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2025-01-07
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03 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor |
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2025-01-06
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03 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from In Progress |
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2025-01-06
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03 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress from Waiting on Authors |
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2024-12-20
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03 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
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2024-12-19
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03 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to MISSREF |
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2024-12-19
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03 | (System) | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
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2024-12-19
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03 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
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2024-12-19
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03 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
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2024-12-19
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03 | Jenny Bui | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
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2024-12-19
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03 | Jenny Bui | IESG has approved the document |
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2024-12-19
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03 | Jenny Bui | Closed "Approve" ballot |
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2024-12-19
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03 | Jenny Bui | Ballot approval text was generated |
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2024-12-19
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03 | (System) | Removed all action holders (IESG state changed) |
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2024-12-19
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03 | Erik Kline | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
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2024-12-18
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03 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot comment] Thanks for addressing my concerns. |
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2024-12-18
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03 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Mahesh Jethanandani has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
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2024-12-05
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03 | Jenny Bui | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation |
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2024-12-04
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03 | Murray Kucherawy | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Murray Kucherawy |
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2024-12-04
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03 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
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2024-12-04
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03 | Jonathan Hui | New version available: draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-03.txt |
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2024-12-04
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03 | Jonathan Hui | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Jonathan Hui) |
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2024-12-04
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03 | Jonathan Hui | Uploaded new revision |
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2024-12-04
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02 | Zaheduzzaman Sarker | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Zaheduzzaman Sarker |
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2024-12-03
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02 | Francesca Palombini | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Francesca Palombini |
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2024-12-03
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02 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot comment] Thanks for both Shivan Kaul Sahib and Tomas Fossati for their reviews. Both have suggestions that impact Security Considerations, and both suggestions should … [Ballot comment] Thanks for both Shivan Kaul Sahib and Tomas Fossati for their reviews. Both have suggestions that impact Security Considerations, and both suggestions should be considered either for this draft or for draft-ietf-snac-simple. It would be nice to hear whether these suggestions are being considered, in addition to which draft is considered appropriate. I also echo Paul's comment about the separation of this draft and draft-ietf-snac-simple. It would seem logical to have put them together. |
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2024-12-03
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02 | Deb Cooley | Ballot comment text updated for Deb Cooley |
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2024-12-03
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02 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deb Cooley |
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2024-12-02
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02 | Orie Steele | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Orie Steele |
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2024-12-01
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02 | Paul Wouters | [Ballot comment] I found it a it weird that this document registers a new flag with IANA, but the definition and usage of the flag … [Ballot comment] I found it a it weird that this document registers a new flag with IANA, but the definition and usage of the flag is done in another document (draft-ietf-snac-simple) It feels as if this document should have been part of that document instead of being separate, unless the description of the new flag was moved from the snac-simple document to this one. |
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2024-12-01
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02 | Paul Wouters | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Paul Wouters |
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2024-12-01
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02 | Jim Guichard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jim Guichard |
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2024-12-01
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02 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot discuss] Section 3, paragraph 2 > The SNAC router flag is to be used by SNAC routers. The use of this > … [Ballot discuss] Section 3, paragraph 2 > The SNAC router flag is to be used by SNAC routers. The use of this > flag is documented in [I-D.ietf-snac-simple]. Devices that do not > operate as SNAC routers [I-D.ietf-snac-simple] MUST NOT set the SNAC > router flag, and MUST silently ignore the SNAC router flag. This > means that the presence or absence of the flag should not change the > behavior of such devices in any way (other than that it is of course > permissible to log and cache the value of the flag as part of normal > router advertisement processing, where applicable). Hear hear! The DISCUSS criteria for IESG telechats serve to ensure that only significant, unresolved issues block the advancement of a document. More importantly, it is meant to stimulate a discussion around the issue. Toward that end, I would like to Adrian Farel for his OPSDIR and Juan-Carlos Zuniga for his INTDIR review. I agree and 'am holding a DISCUSS on the points raised by both of them as it relates to the use of BCP 14 language to describe the behavior of a non-SNAC router and hope that the author, other contributors, and reviewers come to some form of agreement before moving the document forward. My reading of the thread indicates that the comments have not been adequately addressed, and if that is incorrect feel free to correct me. |
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2024-12-01
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02 | Mahesh Jethanandani | Ballot discuss text updated for Mahesh Jethanandani |
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2024-12-01
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02 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot discuss] Section 3, paragraph 2 > The SNAC router flag is to be used by SNAC routers. The use of this > … [Ballot discuss] Section 3, paragraph 2 > The SNAC router flag is to be used by SNAC routers. The use of this > flag is documented in [I-D.ietf-snac-simple]. Devices that do not > operate as SNAC routers [I-D.ietf-snac-simple] MUST NOT set the SNAC > router flag, and MUST silently ignore the SNAC router flag. This > means that the presence or absence of the flag should not change the > behavior of such devices in any way (other than that it is of course > permissible to log and cache the value of the flag as part of normal > router advertisement processing, where applicable). Hear hear! The DISCUSS criteria for IESG telechats serve to ensure that only significant, unresolved issues block the advancement of a document. More importantly, it is meant to stimulate a discussion around the issue. Toward that end, I would like to Adrian Farel for his OPSDIR and Juan-Carlos Zuniga for his INTDIR review. I agree and 'am holding a DISCUSS on the points raised by both of them as it relates to the use of BCP 14 language to describe the behavior of a non-SNAC router and hope that the author, other contributors, and reviewers come to some form of agreement before moving the document forward. My reading of the thread indicates that the comments have not been adequately addressed, in which case feel free to correct me. |
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2024-12-01
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02 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot comment] DOWNREF [I-D.ietf-snac-simple] from this Proposed Standard to draft-ietf-snac-simple of unknown standards level. (For IESG discussion. It seems this DOWNREF was not … [Ballot comment] DOWNREF [I-D.ietf-snac-simple] from this Proposed Standard to draft-ietf-snac-simple of unknown standards level. (For IESG discussion. It seems this DOWNREF was not mentioned in the Last Call and also seems to not appear in the DOWNREF registry.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NIT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All comments below are about very minor potential issues that you may choose to address in some way - or ignore - as you see fit. Some were flagged by automated tools (via https://github.com/larseggert/ietf-reviewtool), so there will likely be some false positives. There is no need to let me know what you did with these suggestions. Document references draft-ietf-snac-simple-05, but -06 is the latest available revision. Section 4, paragraph 2 > on of the SNAC router flag does not changes these considerations. 6. Normativ > ^^^^^^^ The auxiliary verb "do" requires the base form of the verb. |
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2024-12-01
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02 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Mahesh Jethanandani |
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2024-11-29
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02 | Gunter Van de Velde | [Ballot comment] I agree with Eric V. that the shepherd write-up was good and it helped me to understand that consensus was to split off … [Ballot comment] I agree with Eric V. that the shepherd write-up was good and it helped me to understand that consensus was to split off the snac router ra flag allocation from the draft-ietf-snac-simple document, which seemed when reading this draft as an unusual procedural decision. |
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2024-11-29
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02 | Gunter Van de Velde | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gunter Van de Velde |
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2024-11-26
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02 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot comment] # Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-02 Thank you for the work put into this document. As the responsible AD for the … [Ballot comment] # Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-02 Thank you for the work put into this document. As the responsible AD for the SNAC WG, this document is important for draft-ietf-snac-simple and the relationships between the 6MAN and SNAC WG were discussed and the process agreed upon by the respective WG chairs and ADs. Please find below some non-blocking COMMENT points (but replies would be appreciated even if only for my own education). Special thanks to Jen Linkova for the shepherd's *very* detailed write-up including the WG consensus, why it is in 6MAN, relationship with SNAC WG, and the justification of the intended status. Other thanks to Thomas Fossati, the IoT directorate reviewer (at my request), please consider this iot-dir review: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-02-iotdir-telechat-fossati-2024-11-21/ (Jonathan, please start a discussion with Thomas) Other thanks to Juan-Carlos Zúñiga, the Internet directorate reviewer (at my request), please consider this int-dir review: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-02-intdir-telechat-zuniga-2024-11-26/ (Jonathan, please start a discussion with Juan-Carlos, in my view, there is no need to update RFC 4861/5175 as it is merely one new bit in a registry) I hope that this review helps to improve the document, Regards, -éric # COMMENTS (non-blocking) ## Section 1 Please add an informational reference to 6LoWPAN RFC. Also add a reference to RFC 4861 for the RA. ## Section 3 s/The use of this flag is documented in/The use of this flag is specified in/ Like Thomas, I think that the RA guard paragraph should either be moved in the security considerations or in a new operational considerations. An informative reference to RA-guard should be added as well. Finally, I would use 'will' rather than 'should' in `devices on the infrastructure network should never receive an RA with the SNAC router flag set`. ## Section 5 Please reply to Roman Danyliw comment about other nodes pretending to be a SNAC router or about a on-path-attacker setting/clearing this bit. It may even be better to add this part in the snac-simple I-D and add a reference in this draft to the security considerations of snac-simple. |
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2024-11-26
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02 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke |
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2024-11-26
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02 | Juan-Carlos Zúñiga | Request for Telechat review by INTDIR Completed: On the Right Track. Reviewer: Juan-Carlos Zúñiga. Sent review to list. |
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2024-11-22
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02 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] Thank you to Gyan Mishra for the GENART review. ** Section 5. What is the implication (risk) if this bit being setting (or … [Ballot comment] Thank you to Gyan Mishra for the GENART review. ** Section 5. What is the implication (risk) if this bit being setting (or unset) by a router, host, or on-path attacker? |
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2024-11-22
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02 | Roman Danyliw | Ballot comment text updated for Roman Danyliw |
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2024-11-22
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02 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] Thank you to Gyan Mishra for the GENART review. ** Section 5. What is the implication (risk) if this bit being setting (or … [Ballot comment] Thank you to Gyan Mishra for the GENART review. ** Section 5. What is the implication (risk) if this bit being setting (or unsetting) by a router, host, or on-path attacker? |
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2024-11-22
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02 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
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2024-11-21
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02 | Gyan Mishra | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Gyan Mishra. Sent review to list. Submission of review completed at an earlier date. |
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2024-11-21
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02 | Gyan Mishra | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Gyan Mishra. |
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2024-11-21
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02 | Thomas Fossati | Request for Telechat review by IOTDIR Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Thomas Fossati. Sent review to list. |
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2024-11-21
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02 | Carlos Jesús Bernardos | Request for Telechat review by INTDIR is assigned to Juan-Carlos Zúñiga |
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2024-11-21
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02 | Ines Robles | Request for Telechat review by IOTDIR is assigned to Thomas Fossati |
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2024-11-21
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02 | Ines Robles | Assignment of request for Telechat review by IOTDIR to Ted Lemon was rejected |
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2024-11-21
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02 | Ines Robles | Request for Telechat review by IOTDIR is assigned to Ted Lemon |
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2024-11-21
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02 | Michael Richardson | Assignment of request for Telechat review by IOTDIR to Michael Richardson was rejected |
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2024-11-21
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02 | Ines Robles | Request for Telechat review by IOTDIR is assigned to Michael Richardson |
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2024-11-21
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02 | Éric Vyncke | Requested Telechat review by IOTDIR |
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2024-11-21
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02 | Éric Vyncke | Requested Telechat review by INTDIR |
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2024-11-13
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02 | Erik Kline | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2024-12-05 |
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2024-11-13
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02 | Erik Kline | Ballot has been issued |
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2024-11-13
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02 | Erik Kline | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Erik Kline |
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2024-11-13
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02 | Erik Kline | Created "Approve" ballot |
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2024-11-13
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02 | Erik Kline | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
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2024-11-13
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02 | Erik Kline | Ballot writeup was changed |
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2024-11-11
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02 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
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2024-11-09
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02 | Shivan Sahib | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: Shivan Sahib. Sent review to list. Submission of review completed at an earlier date. |
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2024-11-09
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02 | Shivan Sahib | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: Shivan Sahib. |
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2024-11-08
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02 | David Dong | IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-02. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon … IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-02. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete. In the IPv6 ND Router Advertisement flags registry in the Internet Control Message Protocol version 6 (ICMPv6) Parameters registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/icmpv6-parameters/ the existing early allocation of: RA Option Bit: 6 Description: S - SNAC Router Flag will be made permanent and it's reference changed to [ RFC-to-be ]. We understand that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document. NOTE: The action requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the action that will be performed. For definitions of IANA review states, please see: https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/iana-review Thank you, David Dong IANA Services Sr. Specialist |
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2024-11-08
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02 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed |
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2024-11-03
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02 | Darren Dukes | Added to session: IETF-121: snac Mon-1300 |
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2024-10-28
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02 | Adrian Farrel | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: Adrian Farrel. Sent review to list. |
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2024-10-28
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02 | Carlos Pignataro | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Adrian Farrel |
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2024-10-27
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02 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Shivan Sahib |
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2024-10-24
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02 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Gyan Mishra |
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2024-10-21
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02 | Liz Flynn | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
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2024-10-21
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02 | Liz Flynn | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2024-11-11): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: 6man-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag@ietf.org, ek.ietf@gmail.com, furry13@gmail.com, ipv6@ietf.org … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2024-11-11): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: 6man-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag@ietf.org, ek.ietf@gmail.com, furry13@gmail.com, ipv6@ietf.org Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (SNAC Router Flag in ICMPv6 Router Advertisement Messages) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the IPv6 Maintenance WG (6man) to consider the following document: - 'SNAC Router Flag in ICMPv6 Router Advertisement Messages' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2024-11-11. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document defines a new flag, the SNAC Router flag, in the Router Advertisement message that can be used to distinguish configuration information sent by SNAC routers from information sent by infrastructure routers. This flag is used only by SNAC routers and is ignored by all other devices. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. The document contains these normative downward references. See RFC 3967 for additional information: draft-ietf-snac-simple: Automatically Connecting Stub Networks to Unmanaged Infrastructure (None - Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) stream) |
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2024-10-21
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02 | Liz Flynn | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
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2024-10-21
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02 | Liz Flynn | Last call announcement was changed |
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2024-10-21
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02 | Liz Flynn | Last call announcement was generated |
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2024-10-19
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02 | Erik Kline | Last call was requested |
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2024-10-19
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02 | Erik Kline | Ballot approval text was generated |
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2024-10-19
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02 | Erik Kline | Ballot writeup was generated |
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2024-10-19
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02 | Erik Kline | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup |
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2024-10-19
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02 | Erik Kline | Last call announcement was generated |
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2024-10-19
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02 | Erik Kline | # Internet AD comments for draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-02 CC @ekline * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md ## Nits ### Abstract * Probably best to expand the definition … # Internet AD comments for draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-02 CC @ekline * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md ## Nits ### Abstract * Probably best to expand the definition of SNAC in the Abstract, just like the expansion in S1. It'll help improve things for readers. ### S1 * "Stub Network Auto-Configuring Router (SNAC) router" One too many "router" mentions there, I think. Perhaps just "Stub Network Auto-Configuring (SNAC) router" |
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2024-10-19
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02 | Erik Kline | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::AD Followup from AD Evaluation |
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2024-10-19
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02 | Erik Kline | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
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2024-10-15
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02 | Jen Linkova | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? The document has been extensively discussed on the list and during 6MAN sessions for the last few IETFs. It should be noted that the document just defines a single bit, while all details about sematnics of that bit are in scope for the SNAC WG. So the support was expressed mostly by participants who are active in both areas (6man and snac), but it was a broad agreement between them that the document is useful (even crucial for SNAC) and shall be moved forward. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No, the content of the draft did not cause any controversy. The topic of which group this document belongs (6man or SNAC) was discussed extensively (see #5 below). 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? The OpenThread project already implements this: https://github.com/openthread/openthread The author believes that practically all Thread-based products (including Thread Border Routers in-market and in-development) incorporate the OpenThread implementation. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The sole purpose of this document is to request an RA flag, which will be used by SNAC routers. Semantics of the flag and how the flag is processed by SNAC routers are defined in draft-ietf-snac-simple, which belongs to the SNAC WG. So yes, this document closely interacts with SNAC. Interaction of this draft with the SNAC was discussed extensively at IETF119 and on the mailing lists. In particular, both WGs (and their chairs) spent substential amoutn of time discussion: - should the flag be defined in a dedicated draft or should it be a part of draft-ietf-snac-simple? - if it's a separate draft (snac-router-ra-flag), which WG does it belong to - 6MAN or SNAC - and which group shall adopt it? After the decision was made to have a separate draft, the draft content was reviewed by the SNAC WG. The WGLC email was forwared to teh SNAC mailing list and a number of active SNAC participants expressed their support for advancing the draft. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No such review required. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? The document contains no YANG module. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. The document contains no such sections. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? I believe that the document defines a key component of the SNAC framework, and, therefore, is very much needed. The document is well-written and is ready to be advanced. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? I've reviewed the list of issues and the document. I do not believe the document contains any of those issues. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard. This document defines a new Router Advertisement flag, and therefore needs to be a standard. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The author is not aware of any IPR claims. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The document has one author, who confirmed his willingness to be listed as such. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) I do not see any remaining nits in the document. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. The document doesn't contain any informative references. It contains only 5 normative ones and, in my opinion, they all should be normative: - RFC2119 and RFC8174 need to be normative as they concern normative language. - RFC4861 needs to be normative as it defines the Router Advertisement format, and this document defines a bit in the RA. - IANA-RA-FLAGS refers to the IANA registry the new flag is to allocated from, so it's also a normative reference. - I-D.ietf-snac-simple defines the semantics of the flag, therefore ietf-snac-simple must be read to understand or implement the new RA flag, at least on the client side. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? There are no such references. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No such references. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? Yes, this document contains a normative reference to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-snac-simple/ The authors of draft-ietf-snac-simple and the SNAC WG chairs believe that the document is progressing fast and is expected to be ready for the WGLC around IETF122. The author of draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag is aware that draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag can not be published before draft-ietf-snac-simple. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No, publication of this document does not affect any existing RFCs. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). - The document requires IANA to allocate a new flag from the "IPv6 ND Router Advertisement flags" registry. The registry is clearly identified and the reference to the registry is included as a normative one. Actually an early allocation has been made already, so IANA is happy ;) 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. There are no new IANA registries defined or referenced in this document. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
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2024-10-15
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02 | Jen Linkova | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
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2024-10-15
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02 | Jen Linkova | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists |
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2024-10-15
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02 | (System) | Changed action holders to Erik Kline (IESG state changed) |
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2024-10-15
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02 | Jen Linkova | Responsible AD changed to Erik Kline |
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2024-10-15
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02 | Jen Linkova | Document is now in IESG state Publication Requested |
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2024-10-15
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02 | Jen Linkova | Tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WG cleared. |
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2024-10-15
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02 | Jen Linkova | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? The document has been extensively discussed on the list and during 6MAN sessions for the last few IETFs. It should be noted that the document just defines a single bit, while all details about sematnics of that bit are in scope for the SNAC WG. So the support was expressed mostly by participants who are active in both areas (6man and snac), but it was a broad agreement between them that the document is useful (even crucial for SNAC) and shall be moved forward. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No, the content of the draft did not cause any controversy. The topic of which group this document belongs (6man or SNAC) was discussed extensively (see #5 below). 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? The OpenThread project already implements this: https://github.com/openthread/openthread The author believes that practically all Thread-based products (including Thread Border Routers in-market and in-development) incorporate the OpenThread implementation. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The sole purpose of this document is to request an RA flag, which will be used by SNAC routers. Semantics of the flag and how the flag is processed by SNAC routers are defined in draft-ietf-snac-simple, which belongs to the SNAC WG. So yes, this document closely interacts with SNAC. Interaction of this draft with the SNAC was discussed extensively at IETF119 and on the mailing lists. In particular, both WGs (and their chairs) spent substential amoutn of time discussion: - should the flag be defined in a dedicated draft or should it be a part of draft-ietf-snac-simple? - if it's a separate draft (snac-router-ra-flag), which WG does it belong to - 6MAN or SNAC - and which group shall adopt it? After the decision was made to have a separate draft, the draft content was reviewed by the SNAC WG. The WGLC email was forwared to teh SNAC mailing list and a number of active SNAC participants expressed their support for advancing the draft. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No such review required. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? The document contains no YANG module. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. The document contains no such sections. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? I believe that the document defines a key component of the SNAC framework, and, therefore, is very much needed. The document is well-written and is ready to be advanced. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? I've reviewed the list of issues and the document. I do not believe the document contains any of those issues. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard. This document defines a new Router Advertisement flag, and therefore needs to be a standard. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The author is not aware of any IPR claims. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The document has one author, who confirmed his willingness to be listed as such. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) I do not see any remaining nits in the document. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. The document doesn't contain any informative references. It contains only 5 normative ones and, in my opinion, they all should be normative: - RFC2119 and RFC8174 need to be normative as they concern normative language. - RFC4861 needs to be normative as it defines the Router Advertisement format, and this document defines a bit in the RA. - IANA-RA-FLAGS refers to the IANA registry the new flag is to allocated from, so it's also a normative reference. - I-D.ietf-snac-simple defines the semantics of the flag, therefore ietf-snac-simple must be read to understand or implement the new RA flag, at least on the client side. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? There are no such references. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No such references. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? Yes, this document contains a normative reference to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-snac-simple/ The authors of draft-ietf-snac-simple and the SNAC WG chairs believe that the document is progressing fast and is expected to be ready for the WGLC around IETF122. The author of draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag is aware that draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag can not be published before draft-ietf-snac-simple. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No, publication of this document does not affect any existing RFCs. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). - The document requires IANA to allocate a new flag from the "IPv6 ND Router Advertisement flags" registry. The registry is clearly identified and the reference to the registry is included as a normative one. Actually an early allocation has been made already, so IANA is happy ;) 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. There are no new IANA registries defined or referenced in this document. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
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2024-10-15
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02 | Jen Linkova | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? The document has been extensivly discussed on the list and during 6MAN sessions for the last few IETFs. It should be noted that the document just defines a single bit, while all details about sematnics of that bit are in scope for the SNAC WG. So the support was expressed mostly by participants who are active in both areas (6man and snac), but it was a broad agreement between them that the document is useful (even cricial for SNAC) and shall be moved forward. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No, the content of the draft did not cause any controversy. The topic of which group this document belongs (6man or SNAC) was discussed extensively (see #5 below). 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? The OpenThread project already implements this: https://github.com/openthread/openthread The author believes that practically all Thread-based products (including Thread Border Routers in-market and in-development) incorporate the OpenThread implementation. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The sole purpose of this document is to request an RA flag, which will be used by SNAC routers. Semantics of the flag and how the flag is processed by SNAC routers are defined in draft-ietf-snac-simple, which belongs to the SNAC WG. So yes, this document closely interacts with SNAC. Interaction of this draft with the SNAC was discussed extensively at IETF119 and on the mailing lists. In particular, both WGs (and their chairs) spent substential amoutn of time discussion: - should the flag be defined in a dedicated draft or should it be a part of draft-ietf-snac-simple? - if it's a separate draft (snac-router-ra-flag), which WG does it belong to - 6MAN or SNAC - and which group shall adopt it? After the decision was made to have a separate draft, the draft content was reviewed by the SNAC WG. The WGLC email was forwared to teh SNAC mailing list and a number of active SNAC participants expressed their support for advancing the draft. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No such review required. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? The document contains no YANG module. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. The document contains no such sections. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? I believe that the document defines a key component of the SNAC framework, and, therefore, is very much needed. The document is well-written and is ready to be advanced. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? I've reviewed the list of issues and the document. I do not believe the document contains any of those issues. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard. This document defines a new Router Advertisement flag, and therefore needs to be a standard. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The author is not aware of any IPR claims. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The document has one author, who confirmed his willingness to be listed as such. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) I do not see any remaining nits in the document. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. The document doesn't contain any informative references. It contains only 5 normative ones and, in my opinion, they all should be normative: - RFC2119 and RFC8174 need to be normative as they concern normative language. - RFC4861 needs to be normative as it defines the Router Advertisement format, and this document defines a bit in the RA. - IANA-RA-FLAGS refers to the IANA registry the new flag is to allocated from, so it's also a normative reference. - I-D.ietf-snac-simple defines the semantics of the flag, therefore ietf-snac-simple must be read to understand or implement the new RA flag, at least on the client side. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? There are no such references. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No such references. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? Yes, this document contains a normative reference to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-snac-simple/ The authors of draft-ietf-snac-simple and the SNAC WG chairs believe that the document is progressing fast and is expected to be ready for the WGLC around IETF122. The author of draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag is aware that draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag can not be published before draft-ietf-snac-simple. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No, publication of this document does not affect any existing RFCs. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). - The document requires IANA to allocate a new flag from the "IPv6 ND Router Advertisement flags" registry. The registry is clearly identified and the reference to the registry is included as a normative one. Actually an early allocation has been made already, so IANA is happy ;) 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. There are no new IANA registries defined or referenced in this document. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
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2024-10-11
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02 | Jen Linkova | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
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2024-10-11
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02 | Jen Linkova | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
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2024-10-08
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02 | Jonathan Hui | New version available: draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-02.txt |
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2024-10-08
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02 | Jonathan Hui | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Jonathan Hui) |
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2024-10-08
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02 | Jonathan Hui | Uploaded new revision |
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2024-10-01
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01 | Jen Linkova | Notification list changed to furry13@gmail.com because the document shepherd was set |
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2024-10-01
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01 | Jen Linkova | Document shepherd changed to Jen Linkova |
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2024-09-01
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01 | Jen Linkova | Tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WG set. |
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2024-09-01
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01 | Jen Linkova | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call |
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2024-08-14
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01 | Jen Linkova | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
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2024-07-22
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01 | Jonathan Hui | New version available: draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-01.txt |
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2024-07-22
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01 | Jonathan Hui | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Jonathan Hui) |
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2024-07-22
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01 | Jonathan Hui | Uploaded new revision |
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2024-07-14
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00 | Jen Linkova | Added to session: IETF-120: 6man Tue-2000 |
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2024-07-02
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00 | Bob Hinden | This document now replaces draft-hui-6man-stub-router-ra-flag instead of None |
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2024-07-02
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00 | Jonathan Hui | New version available: draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-00.txt |
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2024-07-02
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00 | Bob Hinden | WG -00 approved |
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2024-07-02
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00 | Jonathan Hui | Set submitter to "Jonathan Hui ", replaces to draft-hui-6man-stub-router-ra-flag and sent approval email to group chairs: 6man-chairs@ietf.org |
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2024-07-02
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00 | Jonathan Hui | Uploaded new revision |