Covering Prefixes Outbound Route Filter for BGP-4
draft-ietf-bess-orf-covering-prefixes-06

[Ballot comment]
The Gen-ART review pointed out that the draft was difficult to read.

For what it is worth, I found the draft relatively hard to read and I knew much of the terminology already. But I was able to understand what the draft specified. But I think it would be useful make some additional edits along the lines of Adrian’s suggestions or perhaps beyond. One thing that I often find useful is to explain the semantics of a concept or field as early as possible. There were a few cases in this document where you talked about something for a while but it was only clear later what its meaning was. Example: there’s a lot of rules about the minlen field early in the draft, but it is only on page six that the spec actually says what it does. Explaining what it is for would have made understanding easier.

In any case, these are just comments from my perspective. This is a No-Obj position.

[Ballot comment]
I found myself wishing that the Abstract and/or Introduction included a sentence describing what a "covering prefix" was. "ORF" is nicely explained in the Introduction, but all I get on "covering prefix" is that they're applicable in Virtual Hub-and-Spoke VPNs and BGP/MPLS Ethernet VPN networks.

I actually know most of the terms defined in the Terminology section, but "covering prefix" isn't explained there, either.

The first clue I could find (searching for "cover") is on page 8, in this sentence.

  However, because Loc-RIB also
  contains a more specific covering route (3:192.0.2.0/89),
  2:192.0.2.0/88 does not match. 

I can guess what a covering prefix is using context clues, but I'm guessing.

[Ballot comment]
I found myself wishing that the Abstract and/or Introduction included a sentence describing what a "covering prefix" was. I actually know most of the terms defined in the Terminology section, and I can guess what a covering prefix is, but I'm guessing.

[Ballot comment]
I agree with Adrian's suggestions for this document.  Additionally, I would like to see the acronym RT expanded on first use. While making any other edits, please s/Contstrain/Constrain.

[Ballot comment]
Some minor editorial bits and pieces we can pickup after the telechat. (Thanks to Dave Black and Alvaro Retana for the reviews).

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Something can be added to the Introduction (which is a bit short) to explain what a covering prefix is. Probably breaking the second paragraph after the first sentence and adding a new sentence that begins "A covering prefix is..."

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The fields in Figures 1 are briefly described after the figure, but in some cases the description is exceeding brief. For example, minlen.

Can you look at the text and see where you can beef it up either with a forward reference to where the field is described, or with a simple statement about what the field is used for.

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Final paragraph of Section 3

OLD>
  When the ROUTE-REFRESH message includes one or more CP-ORF entries,
  the BGP speaker MUST re-advertise routes that have been affected by
  ORF entries carried by the message.  While the speaker MAY also re-
  advertise the routes that have not been affected by the ORF entries
  carried in the message, this memo RECOMMENDS not to re-advertise the
  routes that have not been affected.

  When the ROUTE-REFRESH message includes one or more CP-ORF entries,
  the BGP speaker MUST re-advertise routes that have been affected by
  CP-ORF entries carried by the message.  While the speaker MAY also re-
  advertise the routes that have not been affected by the CP-ORF entries
  carried in the message, it is RECOMMENDED not to re-advertise the
  routes that have not been affected.
<NEW

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Section 8 has a paragraph that begins  "Section 5…” I think this applies specifically to the first bullet in the list (of two) immediately above. If I'm right, can you move the paragraph into that bullet?

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Can you move RFC 4364 to be an Informative reference.

[Ballot comment]
Some minor editorial bits and pieces we can pickup after the telechat. (Thanks to Dave Black and Alvaro Retana for the reviews).

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Something can be added to the Introduction (which is a bit short) to explain what a covering prefix is. Probably breaking the second paragraph after the first sentence and adding a new sentence that begins "A covering prefix is..."

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The fields in Figures 1 are briefly described after the figure, but in some cases the description is exceeding brief. For example, minlen.

Can you look at the text and see where you can beef it up either with a forward reference to where the field is described, or with a simple statement about what the field is used for.

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Section 3 has  "RECOMMENDS" which is not a 2119 word. To use "RECOMMENDED" you will need to reword slightly.

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Section 8 has a paragraph that begins  "Section 5…” I think this applies specifically to the first bullet in the list (of two) immediately above. If I'm right, can you move the paragraph into that bullet?

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Can you move RFC 4364 to be an Informative reference.

The following Last Call announcement was sent out:

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CC:
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Sender:
Subject: Last Call:  (Covering Prefixes Outbound Route Filter for BGP-4) to Proposed Standard


The IESG has received a request from the BGP Enabled Services WG (bess)
to consider the following document:
- 'Covering Prefixes Outbound Route Filter for BGP-4'
  as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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Abstract

  This document defines a new Outbound Route Filter (ORF) type, called
  the "Covering Prefixes ORF (CP-ORF)".  CP-ORF is applicable in
  Virtual Hub-and-Spoke VPNs.  It also is applicable in BGP/MPLS
  Ethernet VPN (EVPN) networks.


The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-orf-covering-prefixes/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-orf-covering-prefixes/ballot/


The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:

  http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2397/
  http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2398/

AD review
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Thanks for this document. I was hard-pushed to find anything to talk
about, so I guess you did a good job or I am losing my touch.

The points below are pretty minor, but they will get pulled up in
IETF last call reviews, so I think we should fix them in a new
revision before i start last call.

I'll put the document into "Revised I-D needed" state, and start the
last call as soon as I see a new revision.

Thanks for the work,
Adrian

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In section 3

  When a BGP speaker receives a ROUTE-REFRESH message that contains a
  CP-ORF, and that ROUTE-REFRESH message violates any of the encoding
  rules specified in Section 2, the BGP speaker MUST log the event and
  ignore the entire ROUTE-REFRESH message.

I think you need to allow for event logging to implement thresholds to
avoid the logs becoming a gating factor when there is something evil
going on. Probably that makes

s/MUST/SHOULD/
And add "although an implementation MAY apply logging thresholds to
avoid excessive messaging or log file overflow."

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Section 7 needs to include a request to the IANA to update the
references to the code points to point to this document when
published as an RFC.

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Section 8 has

  o  When negotiating the ORF capability, advertise willingness to
      receive the CP-ORF only to known, trusted iBGP peers

which implies that there is a mechanism to
- negotiate the ORF capability
- advertise willingness to receive CP-ORF

Do you need a small section on this? Probably just a reference to the
negotiation process for the ORF capability, and a note saying how the
CP-ORF willingness is indicated.

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I completely understand where you are coming from with section 8, but I
also know how our friends in the Security Area will respond.

Can you add a very short section noting...

  Security considerations for BGP are presented in [RFC4271] while
  further security analysis of BGP is found in [RFC6952].

(you'll have to add an informative reference to 6952)

As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document
Shepherd Write-Up.

Changes are expected over time. This version is dated 24 February 2012.

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)?  Why
is this the proper type of RFC?  Is this type of RFC indicated in the
title page header?

  The type of RFC which is requested is Proposed Standard.
  It defines information exchange between BGP peers, together with the
  format of the messages containing the information, as well as the
  processing rules. As such the type of RFC requested is appropriate.
  The type of RFC being requested appears in the header.


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Technical Summary

  A BGP speaker can send Outbound Route Filters (ORF) to a peer.  The
  peer uses ORFs to filter routing updates that it sends to the BGP
  speaker.  Using ORF, a BGP speaker can realize a "route pull"
  paradigm, in which the BGP speaker, on demand, pulls certain routes
  from the peer.
  This document defines a new ORF-type, called the "Covering Prefixes
  ORF (CP-ORF)".  CP-ORF is applicable in Virtual Hub-and-Spoke VPNs.
  It also is applicable BGP/MPLS Ethernet VPN (EVPN) networks.

Working Group Summary

  There has been no controversy relating to the technical aspect of
  this Document. A late IPR disclosure was made against this document
  (see question 8). The WG did not oppose to the progress of the
  document.

Document Quality

  The WG Chairs are aware of one implementation plan of the
  technologies described in this document. It should be noted that the
  contexts (Virtual Hub-and-Spoke VPNs and EVPNs) in which this
  Document applies are fairly recent thus explaining that
  implementations are not yet available
 
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  Martin Vigoureux is the Document Shepherd
  Adrian Farrel is the responsible AD


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