Requirements for Distributed Mobility Management
draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-17
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2014-08-14
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17 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48-DONE from AUTH48 |
2014-07-30
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17 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48 from RFC-EDITOR |
2014-07-21
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17 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to RFC-EDITOR from AUTH |
2014-07-16
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17 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH from EDIT |
2014-06-09
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17 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2014-06-06
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17 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to EDIT |
2014-06-06
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17 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
2014-06-06
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17 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to No IC from In Progress |
2014-06-06
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17 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2014-06-06
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17 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2014-06-06
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17 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2014-06-06
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17 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2014-06-06
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17 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
2014-06-06
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17 | Brian Haberman | Ballot writeup was changed |
2014-06-06
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17 | Brian Haberman | Ballot approval text was generated |
2014-06-06
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17 | Benoît Claise | [Ballot comment] Thanks for working together on REQ6: Operation and Management considerations. Next time, let's work on this while the document is still in the … [Ballot comment] Thanks for working together on REQ6: Operation and Management considerations. Next time, let's work on this while the document is still in the WG. |
2014-06-06
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17 | Benoît Claise | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Benoit Claise has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2014-06-05
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17 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-17.txt |
2014-04-25
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16 | Benoît Claise | [Ballot discuss] - My initial DISCUSS was: 'm always surprised that a requirements document doesn't contain any operations and management requirements. Not logging, OAM, troubleshooting … [Ballot discuss] - My initial DISCUSS was: 'm always surprised that a requirements document doesn't contain any operations and management requirements. Not logging, OAM, troubleshooting requirements, really? No OPS requirements to make management less complex or reduce the OPEX? I'm after some guarantee that OPS is not an afterthought. I see that you have introduced the REQ 8. My DISCUSS is there to make you think from day one what your operations and management requirements are. Just one sentence "SHOULD be oam friendly" is like like "hey mister OPS AD, we have one sentence for you, now clear your DISCUSS please". What are your DMM requirements in terms fault, configuration, accounting, performance, and OAM? Let's pretend that Jouni, as an OPS Directorate, would review your proposed specifications work (in the next charter). He would take RFC 5706 appendix A and review the questions in here. I'm simply asking that you look at these questions, and that you write down your DMM requirements. Discuss point 2. Cleared. Thanks |
2014-04-25
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16 | Benoît Claise | Ballot discuss text updated for Benoit Claise |
2014-04-18
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16 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot comment] Version -16 moves three references to "normative", and addresses my issue. Thanks! |
2014-04-18
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16 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Barry Leiba has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2014-04-18
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16 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2014-04-18
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16 | Anthony Chan | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - No Actions Needed |
2014-04-18
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16 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-16.txt |
2014-04-03
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15 | Gunter Van de Velde | Closed request for Last Call review by OPSDIR with state 'No Response' |
2014-04-03
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15 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Telechat review by SECDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Catherine Meadows. |
2014-04-02
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15 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot comment] I'm clearing the DISCUSS based on discussions with the authors. In section 1, item 1, first paragraph: Evolved Packet … [Ballot comment] I'm clearing the DISCUSS based on discussions with the authors. In section 1, item 1, first paragraph: Evolved Packet Core (EPC) [TS.29303]. Yet these mechanisms were not pursued in the past owing to charging and billing which require solutions beyond the mobility protocol. Consequently, assigning a gateway anchor node from a visited network in roaming scenario has until recently been done and are limited to voice services only. This reads (to me) as if there's some intent to charge/bill for content delivery through WLAN offloading. Is that correct? Also, the last sentence just doesn't parse. Can you explain in a slightly longer form what it is intended to mean? Text of former DISCUSS: Based on discussion with the IESG, I am updating this DISCUSS. My concern about this document is that it's making a change to the way mobile IP is done that I think is a very good change, but I don't think it's going far enough. I think that with some relatively small changes, this could be stating requirements for a mobile IP architecture that works well in the currently intended environment, but also allows for a permissionless mode of operation—that is, allows at least some more intelligent mobile devices to participate in the mobile architecture even when they connect to a network that is not operated by their mobile operator, and that has no formal agreement to interoperate with their mobile operator's mobility infrastructure. This is important for two reasons. First of all, it allows for greater utility for the mobile device when it is in a location where the mobile operator provides no service, or provides poorer service than is available on a local non-affiliated WLAN. Second, it creates an opportunity for lock-in, where by offering better service on the affiliated network than is available on a non-affiliated network, the customer will be motivated to switch wireline providers, and possibly to set up their home network in a way that isn't in their overall best interests in order to accommodate the mobile provider's mobility infrastructure. To address this DISCUSS, what I am asking for is a change to REQ5 as follows. OLD: protocols. Furthermore, a DMM solution SHOULD work across different networks, possibly operated as separate administrative domains, when allowed by the trust relationship between them. NEW: protocols. Furthermore, a DMM solution SHOULD work across different networks, possibly operated as separate administrative domains, when allowed by the trust relationship between them. REQ5a: In cases where there is no trust relationship between administrative domains, it should still be possible for a node to authenticate to its provider's mobility infrastructure so that it can offer mobility service to applications that require it. REQ5b: When roaming on networks for which there is no relationship between administrative domains, some services such as QoS may not be achievable using DMM signaling. A DMM solution should specify a fallback mechanism for providing QoS when it is required (e.g. for emergency service) and the provider network is available, even when the non-affiliated WLAN is being used for offload. REQ5c: A DMM solution may have some mechanism for negotiating QoS with a non-affiliated provider. The last bit isn't really a requirement, but more of a "would be a good extension, probably doesn't belong in the base spec". None of this is text I seriously think should go in the document as written—I'm just providing it to illustrate what it is that I am asking for. How this DISCUSS gets resolved depends on how the IESG as a whole reacts to it. BTW, although my expertise on mobile IP protocols is very shallow, the requirements I'm proposing here are not motivated purely by my personal preferences as an end-user. The new requirements I'm suggesting would allow mobile operators to extend their service offerings to handsets in environments where that currently isn't possible. This capability is currently an open item in some discussions I've had with mobile operators, and a DMM solution that addressed it would be very helpful. |
2014-04-02
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15 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ted Lemon has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2014-03-27
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15 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation |
2014-03-27
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15 | Alia Atlas | [Ballot comment] I would like to see the applicability and deployment considerations clearly documented. I am happy for this to be part of the rechartering … [Ballot comment] I would like to see the applicability and deployment considerations clearly documented. I am happy for this to be part of the rechartering rather than requiring it in this draft. I understand that with work, the current deployment environment may be changing. |
2014-03-27
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15 | Alia Atlas | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Alia Atlas has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2014-03-27
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15 | Alia Atlas | [Ballot discuss] I am agreeing with Ted's DISCUSS at least to the extent that this document should have an applicability assumptions section that clearly specifies … [Ballot discuss] I am agreeing with Ted's DISCUSS at least to the extent that this document should have an applicability assumptions section that clearly specifies the expected environment and the assumptions that applies on to the solution and the requirements. I can guess about the walled garden and single operator aspects, but those are guesses. I certainly don't object to having good standards for interoperability even in walled garden and single operator scenarios - but those architectural and applicability assumptions will drive a different solution and should be captured in the requirements doc. From Brian's email, it sounds like these are covered in the Proxy IPv6 Architecture, so this can amount to a clear reference to those and a statement as to what changes there are for these requirements (if any). |
2014-03-27
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15 | Alia Atlas | Ballot discuss text updated for Alia Atlas |
2014-03-27
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15 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko |
2014-03-27
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15 | Benoît Claise | [Ballot discuss] - I'm always surprised that a requirements document doesn't contain any operations and management requirements. Not logging, OAM, troubleshooting requirements, really? No OPS … [Ballot discuss] - I'm always surprised that a requirements document doesn't contain any operations and management requirements. Not logging, OAM, troubleshooting requirements, really? No OPS requirements to make management less complex or reduce the OPEX? I'm after some guarantee that OPS is not an afterthought. - You make a distinction between: Mobility management may be partially or fully distributed [I-D.yokota-dmm-scenario]. In the former case only the data plane is distributed, implicitly assuming separation of data and control planes as described in [I-D.wakikawa-netext-pmip-cp-up-separation]. Fully distributed mobility management implies that both the data plane and the control plane are distributed. And I'm not sure what is the requirements are about: only partial or fully distributed? When I look at REQ1, I'm not sure. |
2014-03-27
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15 | Benoît Claise | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Benoit Claise |
2014-03-26
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15 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot discuss] Based on discussion with the IESG, I am updating this DISCUSS. My concern about this document is that it's making a change to … [Ballot discuss] Based on discussion with the IESG, I am updating this DISCUSS. My concern about this document is that it's making a change to the way mobile IP is done that I think is a very good change, but I don't think it's going far enough. I think that with some relatively small changes, this could be stating requirements for a mobile IP architecture that works well in the currently intended environment, but also allows for a permissionless mode of operation—that is, allows at least some more intelligent mobile devices to participate in the mobile architecture even when they connect to a network that is not operated by their mobile operator, and that has no formal agreement to interoperate with their mobile operator's mobility infrastructure. This is important for two reasons. First of all, it allows for greater utility for the mobile device when it is in a location where the mobile operator provides no service, or provides poorer service than is available on a local non-affiliated WLAN. Second, it creates an opportunity for lock-in, where by offering better service on the affiliated network than is available on a non-affiliated network, the customer will be motivated to switch wireline providers, and possibly to set up their home network in a way that isn't in their overall best interests in order to accommodate the mobile provider's mobility infrastructure. To address this DISCUSS, what I am asking for is a change to REQ5 as follows. OLD: protocols. Furthermore, a DMM solution SHOULD work across different networks, possibly operated as separate administrative domains, when allowed by the trust relationship between them. NEW: protocols. Furthermore, a DMM solution SHOULD work across different networks, possibly operated as separate administrative domains, when allowed by the trust relationship between them. REQ5a: In cases where there is no trust relationship between administrative domains, it should still be possible for a node to authenticate to its provider's mobility infrastructure so that it can offer mobility service to applications that require it. REQ5b: When roaming on networks for which there is no relationship between administrative domains, some services such as QoS may not be achievable using DMM signaling. A DMM solution should specify a fallback mechanism for providing QoS when it is required (e.g. for emergency service) and the provider network is available, even when the non-affiliated WLAN is being used for offload. REQ5c: A DMM solution may have some mechanism for negotiating QoS with a non-affiliated provider. The last bit isn't really a requirement, but more of a "would be a good extension, probably doesn't belong in the base spec". None of this is text I seriously think should go in the document as written—I'm just providing it to illustrate what it is that I am asking for. How this DISCUSS gets resolved depends on how the IESG as a whole reacts to it. BTW, although my expertise on mobile IP protocols is very shallow, the requirements I'm proposing here are not motivated purely by my personal preferences as an end-user. The new requirements I'm suggesting would allow mobile operators to extend their service offerings to handsets in environments where that currently isn't possible. This capability is currently an open item in some discussions I've had with mobile operators, and a DMM solution that addressed it would be very helpful. |
2014-03-26
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15 | Ted Lemon | Ballot discuss text updated for Ted Lemon |
2014-03-26
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15 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot discuss] Based on discussion with the IESG, I am updating this DISCUSS. My concern about this document is that it's making a change to … [Ballot discuss] Based on discussion with the IESG, I am updating this DISCUSS. My concern about this document is that it's making a change to the way mobile IP is done that I think is a very good change, but I don't think it's going far enough. I think that with some relatively small changes, this could be stating requirements for a mobile IP architecture that works well in the currently intended environment, but also allows for a permissionless mode of operation—that is, allows at least some more intelligent mobile devices to participate in the mobile architecture even when they connect to a network that is not operated by their mobile operator, and that has no formal agreement to interoperate with their mobile operator's mobility infrastructure. This is important for two reasons. First of all, it allows for greater utility for the mobile device when it is in a location where the mobile operator provides no service, or provides poorer service than is available on a local non-affiliated WLAN. Second, it creates an opportunity for lock-in, where by offering better service on the affiliated network than is available on a non-affiliated network, the customer will be motivated to switch wireline providers, and possibly to set up their home network in a way that isn't in their overall best interests in order to accommodate the mobile provider's mobility infrastructure. To address this DISCUSS, what I am asking for is a change to REQ5 as follows. OLD: protocols. Furthermore, a DMM solution SHOULD work across different networks, possibly operated as separate administrative domains, when allowed by the trust relationship between them. NEW: protocols. Furthermore, a DMM solution SHOULD work across different networks, possibly operated as separate administrative domains, when allowed by the trust relationship between them. REQ5a: In cases where there is no trust relationship between administrative domains, it should still be possible for a node to authenticate to its provider's mobility infrastructure so that it can offer mobility service to applications that require it. REQ5b: When roaming on networks for which there is no relationship between administrative domains, some services such as QoS may not be achievable using DMM signaling. A DMM solution should specify a fallback mechanism for providing QoS when it is required (e.g. for emergency service) and the provider network is available, even if the non-affiliated WLAN is being used for offload. REQ5c: A DMM solution may have some mechanism for negotiating QoS with a non-affiliated provider. The last bit isn't really a requirement, but more of a "would be a good extension, probably doesn't belong in the base spec". None of this is text I seriously think should go in the document as written—I'm just providing it to illustrate what it is that I am asking for. How this DISCUSS gets resolved depends on how the IESG as a whole reacts to it. BTW, although my expertise on mobile IP protocols is very shallow, the requirements I'm proposing here are not motivated purely by my personal preferences as an end-user. The new requirements I'm suggesting would allow mobile operators to extend their service offerings to handsets in environments where that currently isn't possible. This capability is currently an open item in some discussions I've had with mobile operators, and a DMM solution that addressed it would be very helpful. |
2014-03-26
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15 | Ted Lemon | Ballot discuss text updated for Ted Lemon |
2014-03-26
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15 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot discuss] Based on discussion with the IESG, I am updating this DISCUSS. My concern about this document is that it's making a change to … [Ballot discuss] Based on discussion with the IESG, I am updating this DISCUSS. My concern about this document is that it's making a change to the way mobile IP is done that I think is a very good change, but I don't think it's going far enough. I think that with some relatively small changes, this could be stating requirements for a mobile IP architecture that works well in the currently intended environment, but also allows for a permissionless mode of operation—that is, allows at least some more intelligent mobile devices to participate in the mobile architecture even when they connect to a network that is not operated by their mobile operator, and that has no formal agreement to interoperate with their mobile operator's mobility infrastructure. This is important for two reasons. First of all, it allows for greater utility for the mobile device when it is in a location where the mobile operator provides no service, or provides poorer service than is available on a local non-affiliated WLAN. Second, it creates an opportunity for lock-in, where by offering better service on the affiliated network than is available on a non-affiliated network, the customer will be motivated to switch wireline providers, and possibly to set up their home network in a way that isn't in their overall best interests in order to accommodate the mobile provider's mobility infrastructure. To address this DISCUSS, what I am asking for is a change to REQ5 as follows. OLD: protocols. Furthermore, a DMM solution SHOULD work across different networks, possibly operated as separate administrative domains, when allowed by the trust relationship between them. NEW: protocols. Furthermore, a DMM solution SHOULD work across different networks, possibly operated as separate administrative domains, when allowed by the trust relationship between them. REQ5a: In cases where there is no trust relationship between administrative domains, it should still be possible for a node to authenticate to its provider's mobility infrastructure so that it can offer mobility service to applications that require it. REQ5b: When roaming on networks for which there is no relationship between administrative domains, some services such as QoS may not be achievable using DMM signaling. A DMM solution should specify a fallback mechanism for providing QoS when it is required (e.g. for emergency service) and the provider network is available, even if the non-affiliated WLAN is being used for offload. REQ5c: A DMM solution may have some mechanism for negotiating QoS with a non-affiliated provider. The last bit isn't really a requirement, but more of a "would be a good extension, probably doesn't belong in the base spec". None of this is text I seriously think should go in the document as written—I'm just providing it to illustrate what it is that I am asking for. How this DISCUSS gets resolved depends on how the IESG as a whole reacts to it. |
2014-03-26
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15 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot comment] In section 1, item 1, first paragraph: Evolved Packet Core (EPC) [TS.29303]. Yet these mechanisms were … [Ballot comment] In section 1, item 1, first paragraph: Evolved Packet Core (EPC) [TS.29303]. Yet these mechanisms were not pursued in the past owing to charging and billing which require solutions beyond the mobility protocol. Consequently, assigning a gateway anchor node from a visited network in roaming scenario has until recently been done and are limited to voice services only. This reads (to me) as if there's some intent to charge/bill for content delivery through WLAN offloading. Is that correct? Also, the last sentence just doesn't parse. Can you explain in a slightly longer form what it is intended to mean? |
2014-03-26
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15 | Ted Lemon | Ballot comment and discuss text updated for Ted Lemon |
2014-03-26
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15 | Alia Atlas | [Ballot discuss] I am agreeing with Ted's DISCUSS at least to the extent that this document should have an applicability assumptions section that clearly specifies … [Ballot discuss] I am agreeing with Ted's DISCUSS at least to the extent that this document should have an applicability assumptions section that clearly specifies the expected environment and the assumptions that applies on to the solution and the requirements. I can guess about the walled garden and single operator aspects, but those are guesses. I certainly don't object to having good standards for interoperability even in walled garden and single operator scenarios - but those architectural and applicability assumptions will drive a different solution and should be captured in the requirements doc. |
2014-03-26
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15 | Alia Atlas | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Alia Atlas |
2014-03-25
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15 | Joel Jaeggli | [Ballot comment] (1) Mobile users are, more than ever, consuming Internet content including that of local Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) which … [Ballot comment] (1) Mobile users are, more than ever, consuming Internet content including that of local Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) which had not taken mobility service into account before. It's a bit more accurate to characterize this as the CDN's being unable to take mobility services into account due to the design of mobile networks. It's fair to say that I don't think I'm going to like what we do next here. but I can live with this document. |
2014-03-25
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15 | Joel Jaeggli | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli |
2014-03-25
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15 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot comment] I have two suggestions: - REQ6: Why MUST existing security protocols be used to mitigate risks introduced because of a DMM solution? That … [Ballot comment] I have two suggestions: - REQ6: Why MUST existing security protocols be used to mitigate risks introduced because of a DMM solution? That seems wrong. I think you want to say that you prefer existing security protocols and strongly prefer existing security mechanisms. - REQ6: I would suggest that adding a sentence to REQ6 along these lines might be appropriate: "A DMM solution SHOULD improve security and privacy for the user and the network where possible." Merely saying "do not be worse" seems like a fairly lame requirement given that the threat landscape is constantly evovling and this is not aiming for very short term deployments only. Make sense? |
2014-03-25
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15 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell |
2014-03-25
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15 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot comment] In section 1, item 1, first paragraph: Evolved Packet Core (EPC) [TS.29303]. Yet these mechanisms were … [Ballot comment] In section 1, item 1, first paragraph: Evolved Packet Core (EPC) [TS.29303]. Yet these mechanisms were not pursued in the past owing to charging and billing which require solutions beyond the mobility protocol. Consequently, assigning a gateway anchor node from a visited network in roaming scenario has until recently been done and are limited to voice services only. This reads (to me) as if there's some intent to charge/bill for content delivery through WLAN offloading. Is that correct? Also, the last sentence just doesn't parse. Can you explain in a slightly longer form what it is intended to mean? As a general observation about this requirements document, it appears to presuppose that DMM will only work in circumstances where there is either a single administrative domain, or tight integration between multiple administrative domains. Is that really a necessary requirement for a DMM architecture? |
2014-03-25
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15 | Ted Lemon | Ballot comment text updated for Ted Lemon |
2014-03-25
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15 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot discuss] Question for the IESG: given that this is a requirements document that will presumably motivate further development work, is it appropriate that it … [Ballot discuss] Question for the IESG: given that this is a requirements document that will presumably motivate further development work, is it appropriate that it is not an IETF consensus document? |
2014-03-25
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15 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot comment] In section 1, item 1, first paragraph: Evolved Packet Core (EPC) [TS.29303]. Yet these mechanisms were … [Ballot comment] In section 1, item 1, first paragraph: Evolved Packet Core (EPC) [TS.29303]. Yet these mechanisms were not pursued in the past owing to charging and billing which require solutions beyond the mobility protocol. Consequently, assigning a gateway anchor node from a visited network in roaming scenario has until recently been done and are limited to voice services only. This reads (to me) as if there's some intent to charge/bill for content delivery through WLAN offloading. Is that correct? Also, the last sentence just doesn't parse. Can you explain in a slightly longer form what it is intended to mean? As a general observation about this requirements document, it appears to presuppose that DMM will only work in circumstances where there is either a single administrative domain, or tight integration between multiple configuration domains. Is that really a necessary requirement for a DMM architecture? |
2014-03-25
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15 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Ted Lemon |
2014-03-25
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15 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins |
2014-03-24
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15 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot comment] Good stuff. Couple of nits: There are a few places where the phrase "the DMM solution" is used, but I'm under the impression … [Ballot comment] Good stuff. Couple of nits: There are a few places where the phrase "the DMM solution" is used, but I'm under the impression that multiple solutions exist and may be standardized, so it would probably be better to talk about "a solution" or "solutions." Section 1: "Yet these mechanisms were not pursued in the past owing to charging and billing which require solutions beyond the mobility protocol. Consequently, assigning a gateway anchor node from a visited network in roaming scenario has until recently been done and are limited to voice services only." I'm having trouble parsing this. Is it supposed to say "assigning a gateway anchor node from a visited network in a roaming scenario has until recently not been done"? Is the cited "roaming scenario" the same as the off-load scenario described earlier in the paragraph? |
2014-03-24
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15 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper |
2014-03-24
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15 | Kathleen Moriarty | [Ballot comment] Thanks for addressing the SecDir comments already. |
2014-03-24
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15 | Kathleen Moriarty | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty |
2014-03-23
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15 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot discuss] I have no objection to this fine document, and just have a small thing I'd like to discuss: In Section 2.1 you list … [Ballot discuss] I have no objection to this fine document, and just have a small thing I'd like to discuss: In Section 2.1 you list three RFCs (3753, 5213, and 6275) that define terminology that's required to understand this document. I think that makes those RFCs normative references. Please explain why they're informative. |
2014-03-23
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15 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Barry Leiba |
2014-03-20
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15 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Russ Housley |
2014-03-20
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15 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Russ Housley |
2014-03-15
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15 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot comment] I have no objection to the publication of this document as an Informational RFC. --- I believe you could useful clarify "levels of … [Ballot comment] I have no objection to the publication of this document as an Informational RFC. --- I believe you could useful clarify "levels of routing hierarchy" through an addition to Section 2.1 --- The shepherd write-up is silent on question 11 which is a shame because this revision has nits. --- In Section 5, it would be nice if the paragraphs "This requirement addresses..." were indented with the requirements they belong to. currently it looks like they are header text for the next requirement rather than footer text for the previous requirement. |
2014-03-15
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15 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel |
2014-03-13
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15 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Telechat review by SECDIR is assigned to Catherine Meadows |
2014-03-13
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15 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Telechat review by SECDIR is assigned to Catherine Meadows |
2014-03-05
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15 | Brian Haberman | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2014-03-04
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15 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - No Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2014-03-03
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15 | Brian Haberman | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
2014-03-03
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15 | Brian Haberman | Ballot has been issued |
2014-03-03
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15 | Brian Haberman | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Brian Haberman |
2014-03-03
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15 | Brian Haberman | Created "Approve" ballot |
2014-03-03
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15 | Brian Haberman | Ballot writeup was changed |
2014-03-03
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15 | Brian Haberman | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2014-03-27 |
2014-03-03
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15 | Brian Haberman | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from Waiting for Writeup::AD Followup |
2014-03-03
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15 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2014-03-03
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15 | Anthony Chan | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - No Actions Needed |
2014-03-03
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15 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-15.txt |
2014-02-27
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14 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: Catherine Meadows. |
2014-02-25
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14 | Brian Haberman | IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup::Revised I-D Needed from Waiting for Writeup |
2014-02-17
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14 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call |
2014-02-13
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14 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - No Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed |
2014-02-13
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14 | Amanda Baber | IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-13, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments: We understand that this document doesn't require … IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-13, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments: We understand that this document doesn't require any IANA actions. While it is helpful for the IANA Considerations section of the document to remain in place upon publication, if authors prefer to remove it, IANA does not object. If this assessment is not accurate, please respond as soon as possible. |
2014-02-08
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14 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Michael Sneed |
2014-02-08
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14 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Michael Sneed |
2014-02-07
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14 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Russ Housley |
2014-02-07
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14 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Russ Housley |
2014-02-06
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14 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Catherine Meadows |
2014-02-06
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14 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Catherine Meadows |
2014-02-03
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14 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-14.txt |
2014-02-03
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13 | Amy Vezza | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2014-02-03
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13 | Amy Vezza | The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (Requirements for Distributed Mobility Management) … The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (Requirements for Distributed Mobility Management) to Informational RFC The IESG has received a request from the Distributed Mobility Management WG (dmm) to consider the following document: - 'Requirements for Distributed Mobility Management' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2014-02-17. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document defines the requirements for Distributed Mobility Management (DMM) at the network layer. The hierarchical structure in traditional wireless networks has led primarily to centralized deployment models. As some wireless networks are evolving away from the hierarchical structure, a distributed model for mobility management can be useful to them. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-requirements/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-requirements/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2014-02-03
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13 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2014-02-03
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13 | Brian Haberman | Last call was requested |
2014-02-03
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13 | Brian Haberman | Last call announcement was generated |
2014-02-03
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13 | Brian Haberman | Ballot approval text was generated |
2014-02-03
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13 | Brian Haberman | Ballot writeup was generated |
2014-02-03
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13 | Brian Haberman | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup |
2014-01-31
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13 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2014-01-31
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13 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-13.txt |
2014-01-24
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12 | Brian Haberman | State changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from AD Evaluation |
2014-01-10
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12 | Brian Haberman | State changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2014-01-09
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12 | Cindy Morgan | Notification list changed to : dmm-chairs@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-dmm-requirements@tools.ietf.org, peter.mccann@huawei.com |
2014-01-09
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12 | Jouni Korhonen | > (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, > Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is > this the proper … > (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, > Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is > this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title > page header? Requesting Informational RFC as this is a requirements document. > (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement > Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent > examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved > documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: > > Technical Summary: > > Relevant content can frequently be found in the abstract and/or > introduction of the document. If not, this may be an indication that > there are deficiencies in the abstract or introduction. This document defines the requirements for Distributed Mobility Management (DMM). The hierarchical structure in traditional wireless networks has led primarily to centralized deployment models. As some wireless networks are evolving away from the hierarchical structure, a distributed model for mobility management can be useful to them. > Working Group Summary: > > Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For example, was > there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where > the consensus was particularly rough? There was disagreement from one participant on whether some of the requirements were stated clearly enough to make a convincing case for a new distributed mobility management model. However, there was general consensus in the WG that the text adequately describes the shortcomings of current mobility management algorithms in terms of resource consumption when used in multicast, CDN, and peer-to-peer style applications. > Document Quality: > > Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant > number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? > Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a > thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a > conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a > MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course > (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the > request posted? This is a requirements document so there is currently no implementation. > Personnel: > > Who is the Document Shepherd? Who is the Responsible Area Director? Peter McCann is the document shepherd. Brian Haberman is the responsible AD. > (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by > the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for > publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the > IESG. The document shepherd reviewed the document against the latest round of comments from the WG, and believes the document is ready to be forwarded to the IESG. > (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or > breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No. > (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from > broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, > DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took > place. The document describes requirements for mobility management and was adequately reviewed by the community of participants in mobility-related IETF WGs. > (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd > has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the > IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable > with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really > is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and > has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those > concerns here. The shepherd has no concerns. > (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR > disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 > and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why? All authors have confirmed that they are unaware of any IPR related to this draft. > (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If > so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR > disclosures. No IPR disclosures have been filed. > (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it > represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being > silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? The WG as a whole is in agreement that the document is ready for publication. > (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme > discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate > email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a > separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No appeal has been threatened, and the disagreements noted above were explicitly noted as non-blocking by the maker of the comments. > (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this > document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts > Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be > thorough. > (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review > criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No such formal reviews are needed. > (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either > normative or informative? Yes. > (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for > advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative > references exist, what is the plan for their completion? No unfinished normative references are used. > (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? > If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in > the Last Call procedure. No downward normative references are used. > (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing > RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the > abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed > in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of > the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs > is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why > the WG considers it unnecessary. Publication of this document will not affect the status of any other RFC. > (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations > section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the > document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes > are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. > Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly > identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a > detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that > allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a > reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226). No IANA considerations are given because this is a requirements document. > (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future > allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful > in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. No new IANA registries are created by this document. > (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document > Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal > language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. No formal notation is used in the document. |
2014-01-09
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12 | Jouni Korhonen | State Change Notice email list changed to dmm-chairs@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-dmm-requirements@tools.ietf.org |
2014-01-09
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12 | Jouni Korhonen | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication |
2014-01-09
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12 | Jouni Korhonen | IESG state changed to Publication Requested |
2014-01-09
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12 | Jouni Korhonen | Responsible AD changed to Brian Haberman |
2014-01-09
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12 | Jouni Korhonen | Working group state set to Submitted to IESG for Publication |
2014-01-09
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12 | Jouni Korhonen | IESG state set to Publication Requested |
2014-01-09
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12 | Jouni Korhonen | IESG process started in state Publication Requested |
2014-01-09
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12 | Pete McCann | Changed document writeup |
2014-01-09
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12 | Pete McCann | Changed document writeup |
2013-12-02
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12 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-12.txt |
2013-12-02
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11 | Jouni Korhonen | Document shepherd changed to Pete McCann |
2013-12-02
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11 | Jouni Korhonen | Document shepherd changed to Pete McCann |
2013-12-02
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11 | Jouni Korhonen | Folks, There was no opposition to the document, thus we can conclude it is done from the WG point of view. Pete McCann will be … Folks, There was no opposition to the document, thus we can conclude it is done from the WG point of view. Pete McCann will be the document shepherd and guide the document through the rest of the process. - Jouni & Dapeng On Nov 25, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: > Folks, > > This mail starts a quick one week WGLC for > draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-11 to verify the > changes done since the last WGLC. After the > WGLC we are about to move the draft out of the > working group. > > The WGLC ends 2-Dec-2013. > > If you have something comment, send it into the > mailing list and possibly add into the issue > tracker. We take silence as an acceptance for the > draft content. > > - Jouni & Dapeng |
2013-12-02
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11 | Jouni Korhonen | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call |
2013-11-25
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11 | Jouni Korhonen | Document shepherd changed to Pete McCann |
2013-11-25
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11 | Jouni Korhonen | A new quick one week WGLC just to verify the changes done to the previous version. The WGLC ends 2-Dec-2013. No comments means everything is … A new quick one week WGLC just to verify the changes done to the previous version. The WGLC ends 2-Dec-2013. No comments means everything is ok and the document can move forward. |
2013-11-25
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11 | Jouni Korhonen | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2013-11-25
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11 | Jouni Korhonen | Annotation tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WGLC cleared. |
2013-11-20
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11 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-11.txt |
2013-11-07
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10 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-10.txt |
2013-09-28
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09 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-09.txt |
2013-09-25
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08 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-08.txt |
2013-08-02
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07 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-07.txt |
2013-07-30
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06 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-06.txt |
2013-07-24
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05 | Jouni Korhonen | Intended Status changed to Informational from Best Current Practice |
2013-07-24
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05 | Jouni Korhonen | Intended Status changed to Best Current Practice from None |
2013-06-05
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05 | Jouni Korhonen | On Jul 24, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: Folks, The requirements draft still seems to have 11 open tickets: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/dmm/trac/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&component=requirements Those who recorded … On Jul 24, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: Folks, The requirements draft still seems to have 11 open tickets: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/dmm/trac/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&component=requirements Those who recorded the issues should check whether -05 addresses them. - Jouni |
2013-06-05
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05 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-05.txt |
2013-05-07
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04 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-04.txt |
2013-05-02
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03 | Jouni Korhonen | IETF WG state changed to WG Document from In WG Last Call |
2013-05-02
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03 | Jouni Korhonen | Annotation tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WGLC set. |
2013-04-10
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03 | Jouni Korhonen | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2013-04-10
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03 | Jouni Korhonen | Annotation tag Other - see Comment Log set. |
2012-12-21
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03 | Jouni Korhonen | 39 comments were put into Issue Tracker as a result of the WGLC #2. Revised I-D needed to address the comments. |
2012-12-21
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03 | Jouni Korhonen | Folks, This mail starts a two week WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-03. The issues, even editorials, must be recorded into the Issue Tracker, otherwise they are … Folks, This mail starts a two week WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-03. The issues, even editorials, must be recorded into the Issue Tracker, otherwise they are likely to be neglected. We require minimum three reviews (that are more than one liners). The more the better, though. The WGLC ends on Wednesday 24rd April. - Jouni & Julien |
2012-12-21
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03 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-03.txt |
2012-09-06
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02 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-02.txt |
2012-07-11
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01 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-01.txt |
2012-07-09
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00 | Anthony Chan | New version available: draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-00.txt |