HTTP-Enabled Location Delivery (HELD)
draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-16
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2012-08-22
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16 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Tim Polk |
2012-08-22
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16 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Alexey Melnikov |
2012-08-22
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16 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Russ Housley |
2009-10-05
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16 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor |
2009-10-05
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16 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from In Progress |
2009-10-05
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16 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress from Waiting on Authors |
2009-10-02
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16 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
2009-10-02
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16 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress from Waiting on Authors |
2009-10-01
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16 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
2009-09-17
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16 | Cindy Morgan | State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Cindy Morgan |
2009-09-17
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16 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2009-09-17
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16 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent |
2009-09-17
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16 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2009-09-17
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16 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2009-09-17
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16 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup by Amy Vezza |
2009-09-15
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Alexey Melnikov has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Alexey Melnikov |
2009-09-15
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16 | Tim Polk | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Tim Polk has been changed to No Objection from Undefined by Tim Polk |
2009-09-15
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16 | Tim Polk | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Tim Polk has been changed to Undefined from Discuss by Tim Polk |
2009-09-01
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot comment] |
2009-09-01
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot discuss] Updated as per revision -16 and RFC Editor notes added by Cullen: This is a well written document. There is one relatively minor … [Ballot discuss] Updated as per revision -16 and RFC Editor notes added by Cullen: This is a well written document. There is one relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval of this document: 1). I think the reference to [I-D.ietf-ltru-4646bis] is Normative. (Note that this document is in AUTH48, so wouldn't delay publication of your document.) |
2009-08-28
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot comment] 11.3. MIME Media Type Registration for 'application/held+xml' Interoperability considerations: This content type provides a basis for a protocol This … [Ballot comment] 11.3. MIME Media Type Registration for 'application/held+xml' Interoperability considerations: This content type provides a basis for a protocol This doesn't really say anything about interoperability. The write-up implies that there are multiple implementations of the protocol already, so you can just say it here. |
2009-08-28
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval … [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval of this document: 1). As per discussion on the call the document should say that the charset is always UTF-8 and that the charset parameter MUST always be specified when sending this MIME body part in various protocols. Nothing should be said about the default charset. I suggest saying that at the end of 1st paragraph of Section 5: OLD: Messages are defined as XML documents. NEW: Messages are defined as XML documents which are always encoded in UTF-8. Note that when "application/held+xml" media type is transported in HTTP the charset parameter with value UTF-8 is required. 2). "application/held+xml" MIME type registration was sent to ietf-types@iana.org mailing list for review in April 2008: One reviewer recommended use of a HELD specific extension (and not .xml). I agree with this recommendation. 3). I think the reference to [I-D.ietf-ltru-4646bis] is Normative. (Note that this document is in AUTH48, so wouldn't delay publication of your document.) |
2009-08-28
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16 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2009-08-28
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16 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-16.txt |
2009-07-29
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16 | Dan Romascanu | [Ballot comment] The document lacks completely any information about how LIS's supporting HELD would be managed. What needs to be configured on a LIS? are … [Ballot comment] The document lacks completely any information about how LIS's supporting HELD would be managed. What needs to be configured on a LIS? are there any statistics kept on the number of requests, number of succesful requests, errors, errors distribution, etc. made available to operators that need to include a LIS in his/her network? How can an operator know when a LIS gets near to its capacity and the resulting performance starts to degrade? It would be useful to add a short section to explain these issues, or to refer to other documents that do fill in this task. |
2009-07-29
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16 | Dan Romascanu | [Ballot discuss] |
2009-07-29
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16 | Dan Romascanu | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Dan Romascanu has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Dan Romascanu |
2009-07-16
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16 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to IESG Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from IESG Evaluation by Amy Vezza |
2009-07-16
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot comment] 6.4. "message" Parameter The "error" message MAY include one or more "message" attributes to convey some additional, human-readable information about the … [Ballot comment] 6.4. "message" Parameter The "error" message MAY include one or more "message" attributes to convey some additional, human-readable information about the result of the request. The message MAY be included in any language, which SHOULD be indicated by the "xml:lang", attribute. The default language is assumed to be English. I suggest added to the end of last sentence: ("en") [RFC4646bis]" 11.3. MIME Media Type Registration for 'application/held+xml' Interoperability considerations: This content type provides a basis for a protocol This doesn't really say anything about interoperability. The write-up implies that there are multiple implementations of the protocol already, so you can just say it here. Additional Information: Magic Number(s): (none) File extension(s): .xml I have small preference for picking a new extension for this. Macintosh File Type Code(s): (none) I think this should be the same as in RFC 3023: Macintosh File Type Code(s): "TEXT" |
2009-07-16
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval … [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval of this document: 1). The document normatively references RFC 2818 for server TLS identity verification. RFC 2818, Section 3.1 says: Matching is performed using the matching rules specified by [RFC2459]. If more than one identity of a given type is present in the certificate (e.g., more than one dNSName name, a match in any one of the set is considered acceptable.) Names may contain the wildcard character * which is considered to match any single domain name component or component fragment. E.g., *.a.com matches foo.a.com but not bar.foo.a.com. f*.com matches foo.com but not bar.com. Based on the discussion during the IESG telechat several ADs agreed that f* wildcards shouldn't be allowed anymore. So, the document should say that it complies with RFC 2818, except for f* type wildcards are not allowed. (wildcards in the leftmost label are still allowed). This is consistent with the advice from RFC 5280. 2). In Section 6.5.2 ("expires" Parameter): The "expires" attribute is only included in a "locationResponse" message when a "locationUriSet" element is included. The "expires" attribute indicates the date/time at which the Location URIs provided This doesn't specify if the date/time is in local timezone, in UTC, or is allowed to be either. I believe local timezone might cause some minor interoperability problems, as the Device would have to discover server's timezone. I would encourage using the last paragraph of draft-hollenbeck-rfc4930bis-02.txt, Section 5 to address this issue, or argue why other formats should be allowed. (Note, if you choose to disallow local timezone, you also need to fix your examples). by the LIS will expire. The "expires" attribute does not define the 2b). COMMENT: As fractional seconds seem to be allowed in the "expire" attribute, it would have been nice to have an example of this. 3). In Section 6.3 ("code" Parameter): The value of the response code MUST be one of the following tokens: This make it sound that the list of error codes is not extensible, yet you establish an IANA registry for them. 4). Default charset for the "application/held+xml" MIME type: Optional parameters: charset Indicates the character encoding of enclosed XML. Default is UTF-8. As per discussion on the call the document should say that the charset is always UTF-8 and that the charset parameter MUST always be specified when sending this MIME body part in various protocols. Nothing should be said about the default charset. 5). "application/held+xml" MIME type registration was sent to ietf-types@iana.org mailing list for review in April 2008: However none of the comments raised on the mailing list were addressed or responded to: |
2009-07-16
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16 | Magnus Westerlund | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Magnus Westerlund |
2009-07-16
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16 | Ross Callon | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Ross Callon |
2009-07-16
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16 | Tim Polk | [Ballot comment] I found the last statement in section 5.1 confusing: The LIS MUST ignore any part of a location request message that it … [Ballot comment] I found the last statement in section 5.1 confusing: The LIS MUST ignore any part of a location request message that it does not understand, except the document element. This begs the obvious question, if you don't recognize the document element and do not ignore it, what do you do? I eventually sorted it out from the following code parameter definition in section 6.3: unsupportedMessage: This code indicates that an element in the XML document for the request, was not supported or understood by the LIS. This error code is used when a HELD request contains a document element that is not supported by the receiver. I would suggest either covering this case in the first sentence of section 5.3 or adding a note in 5.1 that points to 6.3. |
2009-07-16
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16 | Tim Polk | [Ballot discuss] The text in section 8 on client authentication seems correct in the context of the features defined within this specification, but may not … [Ballot discuss] The text in section 8 on client authentication seems correct in the context of the features defined within this specification, but may not be true when HELD extensions are defined. Specifically, the recommendations against authentication are arguably sound so long as the IP address is the only identity type supported. However, section 5.1 indicates that additional identity types are expected to be defined in the future. I believe paragraph 3 of the http bindings text should be revised to apply this guidance to the case where the device identity is the IP address and specifically note that extensions to support other Device identities may introduce new authentication requirements. |
2009-07-16
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16 | Tim Polk | [Ballot comment] I found the last statement in section 5.1 confusing: The LIS MUST ignore any part of a location request message that it … [Ballot comment] I found the last statement in section 5.1 confusing: The LIS MUST ignore any part of a location request message that it does not understand, except the document element. This begs the obvious question, if you don't recognize the document element and do not ignore it, what do you do? I eventually sorted it out from the following code parameter definition in section 6.3: unsupportedMessage: This code indicates that an element in the XML document for the request, was not supported or understood by the LIS. This error code is used when a HELD request contains a document element that is not supported by the receiver. I would suggest either covering this case in the first sentence of section 5.3 or adding a note in 5.1 that points to 6.3. |
2009-07-16
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16 | Tim Polk | [Ballot discuss] The text in section 8 on client authentication seems correct in the context of the features defined within this specification, but may not … [Ballot discuss] The text in section 8 on client authentication seems correct in the context of the features defined within this specification, but may not be true when HELD extensions are defined. Specifically, the recommendations against authentication are arguably sound so long as the IP address is the only identity type supported. However, section 5.1 indicates that additional identity types are expected to be defined in the future. I believe paragraph 3 of the security considerations should be revised to apply this guidance to the case where the device identity is the IP address and specifically note that extensions to support other Device identities may introduce new authentication requirements. |
2009-07-16
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16 | Tim Polk | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded by Tim Polk |
2009-07-16
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16 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Adrian Farrel |
2009-07-15
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16 | Dan Romascanu | [Ballot comment] 1. How can [I-D ietf-geopriv-l7-lcp-ps] be just an Informational Reference? Maybe at least the defibition of a LIS should be replicated here. 2. … [Ballot comment] 1. How can [I-D ietf-geopriv-l7-lcp-ps] be just an Informational Reference? Maybe at least the defibition of a LIS should be replicated here. 2. In 4.1.1 "To minimize the impact of connections or tunnels setup for security purposes or to traverse middleboxes, Devices that connect to servers such as VPN servers, SOCKS servers and HTTP proxy servers should perform their HELD query to the LIS prior to establishing a connection to other servers." I think s/should/SHOULD/ |
2009-07-15
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16 | Dan Romascanu | [Ballot discuss] This is a very well written document and I know a lot of work was invested to make it meet the requirements, and … [Ballot discuss] This is a very well written document and I know a lot of work was invested to make it meet the requirements, and a lot of controversy was overcome on the road. A few items still seem to me to REQUIRE clarification: 1. In a review of a previous version Bernard Aboba raised the issue of client authentication. This resulted in changes which look like did not improve the situation, but quite the opposite. The previous text related to LIS behavior (e.g. not refusing authorization based on lack of authentication). In athat text, the LIS could challenge the client, but was restricted in its options if the client failed authentication. In the new text, the LIS is recommended not to even try to authenticate the client. I cannot understand how this can be allowed. A DoS threat from one or several clients choking a LIS with dummy requests is not part of the threat model? A compromise approach would be for the LIS to make the choice on whether to challenge the device based on the nature of the request. Devices only supporting requests that cannot be challenged (e.g. requests utilizing implicit IP address identification) could omit support for HTTP authentication. However, if a device were to make a request of another type (e.g. utilizing HELD extensions), the LIS could challenge it and therefore the device would need to support HTTP authentication. This should be at least an option in my view. 2. The document lacks completely any information about how LIS's supporting HELD would be managed. What needs to be configured on a LIS? are there any statistics kept on the number of requests, number of succesful requests, errors, errors distribution, etc. made available to operators that need to include a LIS in his/her network? How can an operator know when a LIS gets near to its capacity and the resulting performance starts to degrade? 3. I have a hard time understanding what the following paragraph in Section 4.1.2 means: " LIS operators have a large role in ensuring the best possible environment for location determination. The LIS operator needs to ensure that the LIS is properly configured with identifiers that fall within NATs and VPNs. In order to serve a Device on a remote side of a NAT or VPN a LIS needs to have a presence on the side of the NAT or VPN nearest the Device." What means 'identifiers that fall within NATs and VPNs'? How 'a presence on the side of the NAT or VPN nearest the Device' is achieved by a LIS? |
2009-07-15
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16 | Dan Romascanu | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded by Dan Romascanu |
2009-07-14
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16 | Ron Bonica | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Ron Bonica |
2009-07-14
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16 | Robert Sparks | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded by Robert Sparks |
2009-07-14
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16 | Tim Polk | [Ballot comment] I found the last statement in section 5.1 confusing: The LIS MUST ignore any part of a location request message that it … [Ballot comment] I found the last statement in section 5.1 confusing: The LIS MUST ignore any part of a location request message that it does not understand, except the document element. This begs the obvious question, if you don't recognize the document element and do not ignore it, what do you do? I eventually sorted it out from the following code parameter definition in section 6.3: unsupportedMessage: This code indicates that an element in the XML document for the request, was not supported or understood by the LIS. This error code is used when a HELD request contains a document element that is not supported by the receiver. I would suggest either covering this case in the first sentence of section 5.3 or adding a note in 5.1 that points to 6.3. |
2009-07-13
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16 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Ralph Droms |
2009-07-13
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot comment] 6.4. "message" Parameter The "error" message MAY include one or more "message" attributes to convey some additional, human-readable information about the … [Ballot comment] 6.4. "message" Parameter The "error" message MAY include one or more "message" attributes to convey some additional, human-readable information about the result of the request. The message MAY be included in any language, which SHOULD be indicated by the "xml:lang", attribute. The default language is assumed to be English. I suggest added to the end of last sentence: ("en") [RFC4646bis]" 11.3. MIME Media Type Registration for 'application/held+xml' Optional parameters: charset Indicates the character encoding of enclosed XML. Default is UTF-8. Does this have any interaction with HTTP, which uses ISO-8859-1 by default? Interoperability considerations: This content type provides a basis for a protocol This doesn't really say anything about interoperability. The write-up implies that there are multiple implementations of the protocol already, so you can just say it here. Additional Information: Magic Number(s): (none) File extension(s): .xml Macintosh File Type Code(s): (none) I think this should be the same as in RFC 3023: Macintosh File Type Code(s): "TEXT" |
2009-07-13
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval … [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval of this document: 1). The document normatively references RFC 2818 for server TLS identity verification. RFC 2818, Section 3.1 says: Matching is performed using the matching rules specified by [RFC2459]. If more than one identity of a given type is present in the certificate (e.g., more than one dNSName name, a match in any one of the set is considered acceptable.) Names may contain the wildcard character * which is considered to match any single domain name component or component fragment. E.g., *.a.com matches foo.a.com but not bar.foo.a.com. f*.com matches foo.com but not bar.com. This allows for wildcard like f*.com (i.e. the leftmost component is not just "*"). I don't believe this is a recommended procedure for wildcard matching and other application protocols don't allow it. So I would like to discuss what should be recommended in this case. 2). In Section 6.5.2 ("expires" Parameter): The "expires" attribute is only included in a "locationResponse" message when a "locationUriSet" element is included. The "expires" attribute indicates the date/time at which the Location URIs provided This doesn't specify if the date/time is in local timezone, in UTC, or is allowed to be either. I believe local timezone might cause some minor interoperability problems, as the Device would have to discover server's timezone. I would encourage using the last paragraph of draft-hollenbeck-rfc4930bis-02.txt, Section 5 to address this issue, or argue why other formats should be allowed. (Note, if you choose to disallow local timezone, you also need to fix your examples). by the LIS will expire. The "expires" attribute does not define the 2b). COMMENT: As fractional seconds seem to be allowed in the "expire" attribute, it would have been nice to have an example of this. 3). In Section 6.3 ("code" Parameter): The value of the response code MUST be one of the following tokens: This make it sound that the list of error codes is not extensible, yet you establish an IANA registry for them. 4). "application/held+xml" MIME type registration was sent to ietf-types@iana.org mailing list for review in April 2008: However none of the comments raised on the mailing list were addressed or responded to: |
2009-07-13
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot comment] 6.4. "message" Parameter The "error" message MAY include one or more "message" attributes to convey some additional, human-readable information about the … [Ballot comment] 6.4. "message" Parameter The "error" message MAY include one or more "message" attributes to convey some additional, human-readable information about the result of the request. The message MAY be included in any language, which SHOULD be indicated by the "xml:lang", attribute. The default language is assumed to be English. I suggest added to the end of last sentence: ("en") [RFC4646bis]" 11.3. MIME Media Type Registration for 'application/held+xml' Optional parameters: charset Indicates the character encoding of enclosed XML. Default is UTF-8. Does this have any interaction with HTTP, which uses ISO-8859-1 by default? Interoperability considerations: This content type provides a basis for a protocol This doesn't really say anything about interoperability. The write-up implies that there are multiple implementations of the protocol already, so you can just say it here. Additional Information: Magic Number(s): (none) File extension(s): .xml Macintosh File Type Code(s): (none) I think this should be the same as in RFC 3023: Macintosh File Type Code(s): "TEXT" |
2009-07-13
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval … [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval of this document: 1). The document normatively references RFC 2818 for server TLS identity verification. RFC 2818, Section 3.1 says: Matching is performed using the matching rules specified by [RFC2459]. If more than one identity of a given type is present in the certificate (e.g., more than one dNSName name, a match in any one of the set is considered acceptable.) Names may contain the wildcard character * which is considered to match any single domain name component or component fragment. E.g., *.a.com matches foo.a.com but not bar.foo.a.com. f*.com matches foo.com but not bar.com. This allows for wildcard like f*.com (i.e. the leftmost component is not just "*"). I don't believe this is a recommended procedure for wildcard matching and other application protocols don't allow it. So I would like to discuss what should be recommended in this case. 2). In Section 6.5.2 ("expires" Parameter): The "expires" attribute is only included in a "locationResponse" message when a "locationUriSet" element is included. The "expires" attribute indicates the date/time at which the Location URIs provided This doesn't specify if the date/time is in local timezone, in UTC, or is allowed to be either. I believe local timezone might cause some minor interoperability problems, as the Device would have to discover server's timezone. I would encourage using the last paragraph of draft-hollenbeck-rfc4930bis-02.txt, Section 5 to address this issue, or argue why other formats should be allowed. (Note, if you choose to disallow local timezone, you also need to fix your examples). by the LIS will expire. The "expires" attribute does not define the 2b). Are fractional seconds allowed in the "expire" attribute? 3). In Section 6.3 ("code" Parameter): The value of the response code MUST be one of the following tokens: This make it sound that the list of error codes is not extensible, yet you establish an IANA registry for them. 4). "application/held+xml" MIME type registration was sent to ietf-types@iana.org mailing list for review in April 2008: However none of the comments raised on the mailing list were addressed or responded to: |
2009-07-13
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot comment] 6.4. "message" Parameter The "error" message MAY include one or more "message" attributes to convey some additional, human-readable information about the … [Ballot comment] 6.4. "message" Parameter The "error" message MAY include one or more "message" attributes to convey some additional, human-readable information about the result of the request. The message MAY be included in any language, which SHOULD be indicated by the "xml:lang", attribute. The default language is assumed to be English. I suggest added to the end of last sentence: ("en") [RFC4646bis]" 11.3. MIME Media Type Registration for 'application/held+xml' Optional parameters: charset Indicates the character encoding of enclosed XML. Default is UTF-8. Does this have any interaction with HTTP, which uses ISO-8859-1 by default? Interoperability considerations: This content type provides a basis for a protocol This doesn't really say anything about interoperability. The write-up implies that there are multiple implementations of the protocol already, so you can just say it here. Additional Information: Magic Number(s): (none) File extension(s): .xml Macintosh File Type Code(s): (none) I think this should be the same as in RFC 3023: Macintosh File Type Code(s): "TEXT" |
2009-07-13
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval … [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval of this document: 1). The document normatively references RFC 2818 for server TLS identity verification. RFC 2818, Section 3.1 says: Matching is performed using the matching rules specified by [RFC2459]. If more than one identity of a given type is present in the certificate (e.g., more than one dNSName name, a match in any one of the set is considered acceptable.) Names may contain the wildcard character * which is considered to match any single domain name component or component fragment. E.g., *.a.com matches foo.a.com but not bar.foo.a.com. f*.com matches foo.com but not bar.com. This allows for wildcard like f*.com (i.e. the leftmost component is not just "*"). I don't believe this is a recommended procedure for wildcard matching and other application protocols don't allow it. So I would like to discuss what should be recommended in this case. 2). In Section 6.5.2 ("expires" Parameter): The "expires" attribute is only included in a "locationResponse" message when a "locationUriSet" element is included. The "expires" attribute indicates the date/time at which the Location URIs provided This doesn't specify if the date/time is in local timezone, in UTC, or is allowed to be either. I believe local timezone might cause some minor interoperability problems, as the Device would have to discover server's timezone. I would encourage using the last paragraph of draft-hollenbeck-rfc4930bis-02.txt, Section 5 to address this issue, or argue why other formats should be allowed. (Note, if you choose to disallow local timezone, you also need to fix your examples). by the LIS will expire. The "expires" attribute does not define the 2b). Are fractional seconds allowed in the "expire" attribute? 3). In Section 6.3 ("code" Parameter): The value of the response code MUST be one of the following tokens: This make it sound that the list of error codes is not extensible, yet you establish an IANA registry for them. 4). "application/held+xml" MIME type registration was sent to ietf-types@iana.org mailing list for review in April 2008: http://eikenes.alvestrand.no/pipermail/ietf-types/2008-April/002028.html However none of the comments raised were addressed or responded to. |
2009-07-13
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16 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Russ Housley has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Russ Housley |
2009-07-13
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16 | Russ Housley | [Ballot discuss] Bernard Aboba suggested that the LIS to make the choice on whether to challenge the device based on the nature of the … [Ballot discuss] Bernard Aboba suggested that the LIS to make the choice on whether to challenge the device based on the nature of the request. Devices only supporting requests that cannot be challenged (e.g. requests utilizing implicit IP address identification) could omit support for HTTP authentication. However, if a device were to make a request of another type (e.g. utilizing HELD extensions), the LIS could challenge it and therefore the device would need to support HTTP authentication. This makes a lot of sense to me. I do not (yet) see RFC Editor notes to implement this suggestion. |
2009-07-13
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16 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded by Russ Housley |
2009-07-12
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16 | Lisa Dusseault | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Lisa Dusseault |
2009-07-11
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot comment] 6.2. "locationType" Parameter It should be noted that the protocol does not support a request to just receive one of a … [Ballot comment] 6.2. "locationType" Parameter It should be noted that the protocol does not support a request to just receive one of a subset of location types. For example, in the case where a Device has a preference for just "geodetic" or "civic", it is necessary to make the request without an "exact" attribute, including both location types. In this case, if neither is available a LIS SHOULD return a locationURI if available. Can you explain the last sentence? I admin I am being ignorant, but my understanding that resolution of locationURI would result in either geodetic or civic location information. 6.4. "message" Parameter The "error" message MAY include one or more "message" attributes to convey some additional, human-readable information about the result of the request. The message MAY be included in any language, which SHOULD be indicated by the "xml:lang", attribute. The default language is assumed to be English. I suggest added to the end of last sentence: ("en") [RFC4646bis]" Where the meaning of "emergencyRouting" and "emergencyDispatch" values in "responseTimeType" is defined/explained? 10.3. Location Request Example for Multiple Location Types The following Location Request message includes a request for geodetic, civic and any Location URIs. geodetic civic locationURI This makes me wonder why location types are not separate XML elements, subordinate to 11.3. MIME Media Type Registration for 'application/held+xml' Optional parameters: charset Indicates the character encoding of enclosed XML. Default is UTF-8. Does this have any interaction with HTTP, which uses ISO-8859-1 by default? Interoperability considerations: This content type provides a basis for a protocol This doesn't really say anything about interoperability. The write-up implies that there are multiple implementations of the protocol already, so you can just say it here. Additional Information: Magic Number(s): (none) File extension(s): .xml Macintosh File Type Code(s): (none) I think this should be the same as in RFC 3023: Macintosh File Type Code(s): "TEXT" |
2009-07-11
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval … [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval of this document: 1). The document normatively references RFC 2818 for server TLS identity verification. RFC 2818, Section 3.1 says: Matching is performed using the matching rules specified by [RFC2459]. If more than one identity of a given type is present in the certificate (e.g., more than one dNSName name, a match in any one of the set is considered acceptable.) Names may contain the wildcard character * which is considered to match any single domain name component or component fragment. E.g., *.a.com matches foo.a.com but not bar.foo.a.com. f*.com matches foo.com but not bar.com. This allows for wildcard like f*.com (i.e. the leftmost component is not just "*"). I don't believe this is a recommended procedure for wildcard matching and other application protocols don't allow it. So I would like to discuss what should be recommended in this case. 2). In Section 6.5.2 ("expires" Parameter): The "expires" attribute is only included in a "locationResponse" message when a "locationUriSet" element is included. The "expires" attribute indicates the date/time at which the Location URIs provided This doesn't specify if the date/time is in local timezone, in UTC, or is allowed to be either. I believe local timezone might cause some minor interoperability problems, as the Device would have to discover server's timezone. I would encourage using the last paragraph of draft-hollenbeck-rfc4930bis-02.txt, Section 5 to address this issue, or argue why other formats should be allowed. (Note, if you choose to disallow local timezone, you also need to fix your examples). by the LIS will expire. The "expires" attribute does not define the 2b). Are fractional seconds allowed in the "expire" attribute? 3). In Section 6.3 ("code" Parameter): The value of the response code MUST be one of the following tokens: This make it sound that the list of error codes is not extensible, yet you establish an IANA registry for them. 4). Please confirm that "application/held+xml" MIME type registration was sent to ietf-types@iana.org mailing list for 2 weeks review. (See for more details.) If there was no ietf-types@iana.org review yet, I suggest addressing my comments (see the Comment section) first. |
2009-07-11
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot comment] 6.2. "locationType" Parameter [...] It should be noted that the protocol does not support a request to just receive one of … [Ballot comment] 6.2. "locationType" Parameter [...] It should be noted that the protocol does not support a request to just receive one of a subset of location types. For example, in the case where a Device has a preference for just "geodetic" or "civic", it is necessary to make the request without an "exact" attribute, including both location types. In this case, if neither is available a LIS SHOULD return a locationURI if available. Can you explain the last sentence? I admin I am being ignorant, but my understanding that resolution of locationURI would result in either geodetic or civic location information. 6.4. "message" Parameter The "error" message MAY include one or more "message" attributes to convey some additional, human-readable information about the result of the request. The message MAY be included in any language, which SHOULD be indicated by the "xml:lang", attribute. The default language is assumed to be English. I suggest added to the end of last sentence: ("en") [RFC4646bis]" Where the meaning of these values is explained? 10.3. Location Request Example for Multiple Location Types The following Location Request message includes a request for geodetic, civic and any Location URIs. geodetic civic locationURI This makes me wonder why location types are not separate XML elements, subordinate to 11.3. MIME Media Type Registration for 'application/held+xml' [...] Optional parameters: charset Indicates the character encoding of enclosed XML. Default is UTF-8. Does this have any interaction with HTTP, which uses ISO-8859-1 by default? Interoperability considerations: This content type provides a basis for a protocol This doesn't really say anything about interoperability. The write-up implies that there are multiple implementations of the protocol already, so you can just say it here. [...] Additional Information: Magic Number(s): (none) File extension(s): .xml Macintosh File Type Code(s): (none) I think this should be the same as in RFC 3023: Macintosh File Type Code(s): "TEXT" |
2009-07-11
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval … [Ballot discuss] This is a well written document. There are 4 relatively minor points that I would like to discuss with authors/shepherd/IESG before recommending approval of this document: 1). The document normatively references RFC 2818 for server TLS identity verification. RFC 2818, Section 3.1 says: Matching is performed using the matching rules specified by [RFC2459]. If more than one identity of a given type is present in the certificate (e.g., more than one dNSName name, a match in any one of the set is considered acceptable.) Names may contain the wildcard character * which is considered to match any single domain name component or component fragment. E.g., *.a.com matches foo.a.com but not bar.foo.a.com. f*.com matches foo.com but not bar.com. This allows for wildcard like f*.com (i.e. the leftmost component is not just "*"). I don't believe this is a recommended procedure for wildcard matching and other application protocols don't allow it. So I would like to discuss what should be recommended in this case. 2). In Section 6.5.2 ("expires" Parameter): The "expires" attribute is only included in a "locationResponse" message when a "locationUriSet" element is included. The "expires" attribute indicates the date/time at which the Location URIs provided This doesn't specify if the date/time is in local timezone, in UTC, or is allowed to be either. I believe local timezone might cause some minor interoperability problems, as the Device would have to discover server's timezone. I would encourage using the last paragraph of draft-hollenbeck-rfc4930bis-02.txt, Section 5 to address this issue, or argue why other formats should be allowed. (Note, if you choose to disallow local timezone, you also need to fix your examples). by the LIS will expire. The "expires" attribute does not define the 2b). Are fractional seconds allowed in the "expire" attribute? 3). In Section 6.3 ("code" Parameter): The value of the response code MUST be one of the following tokens: This make it sound that the list of error codes is not extensible, yet you establish an IANA registry for them. 4). Please confirm that "application/held+xml" MIME type registration was sent to ietf-types@iana.org mailing list for 2 weeks review. (See for more details.) If there was no ietf-types@iana.org review yet, I suggest addressing my comments (see the Comment section) first. |
2009-07-11
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16 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded by Alexey Melnikov |
2009-06-30
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16 | Cullen Jennings | [Note]: 'Richard is PROTO shepherd. Please do not DEFER this draft.' added by Cullen Jennings |
2009-06-24
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16 | Cullen Jennings | Telechat date was changed to 2009-07-16 from 2009-07-02 by Cullen Jennings |
2009-06-24
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16 | Cullen Jennings | Ballot has been issued by Cullen Jennings |
2009-06-24
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16 | Cullen Jennings | [Note]: 'Richard is PROTO shepherd.' added by Cullen Jennings |
2009-06-24
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15 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-15.txt |
2009-06-24
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16 | Cullen Jennings | [Note]: 'Richard is PROTO shepherd. Please note the RFC Ed note deals with issues raised in gen-art and sec reviews.' added by Cullen Jennings |
2009-06-24
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16 | Cullen Jennings | State Changes to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead by Cullen Jennings |
2009-06-24
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16 | Cullen Jennings | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2009-07-02 by Cullen Jennings |
2009-06-24
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16 | Cullen Jennings | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Cullen Jennings |
2009-06-24
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16 | Cullen Jennings | Ballot has been issued by Cullen Jennings |
2009-06-24
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16 | Cullen Jennings | Created "Approve" ballot |
2009-06-09
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16 | (System) | State has been changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call by system |
2009-05-26
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16 | Amy Vezza | Last call sent |
2009-05-26
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16 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to In Last Call from Last Call Requested by Amy Vezza |
2009-05-24
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16 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Eric Rescorla |
2009-05-24
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16 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Eric Rescorla |
2009-05-22
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16 | Cullen Jennings | Last Call was requested by Cullen Jennings |
2009-05-22
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16 | Cullen Jennings | State Changes to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup by Cullen Jennings |
2009-05-11
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16 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2009-05-11
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14 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-14.txt |
2009-05-01
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16 | Cullen Jennings | Review email send today |
2009-05-01
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16 | Cullen Jennings | State Changes to AD Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from AD Evaluation by Cullen Jennings |
2009-05-01
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16 | Cullen Jennings | State Changes to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested by Cullen Jennings |
2009-04-14
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16 | Cullen Jennings | Note: ping Lisa & EKR on ok from previous LC comments |
2009-04-14
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16 | Cullen Jennings | [Note]: 'Richard is PROTO shepherd.' added by Cullen Jennings |
2009-03-11
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16 | Cindy Morgan | State Changes to Publication Requested from AD is watching::AD Followup by Cindy Morgan |
2009-03-11
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16 | Cindy Morgan | The GEOPRIV working group requests publication of draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-13 as a Proposed Standard. (1.a) Richard Barnes is the document shepherd. Richard has reviewed this document and … The GEOPRIV working group requests publication of draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-13 as a Proposed Standard. (1.a) Richard Barnes is the document shepherd. Richard has reviewed this document and believes it is ready for publication. (1.b) This document has received detailed review from the entire working group and has had scrutiny from several key advisors outside the working group. (1.c) The document has had input from people with good XML, security, and HTTP skills. Lisa Dusseault has been active in her role as technical advisor to the GEOPRIV working group during this documents development. A prior IETF LC raised additional issues from the security and HTTP communities, which have been addressed in this version. Normal IETF LC and AD review activities should provide sufficient additional review. (1.d) The shepherd has no specific technical concerns with this document to which to call attention. No IPR disclosures have been filed against this document. (1.f) There have been no threatened appeals against this document. However, achieving consensus on this document has not been a conflict-free process, and did result in an appeal that has already been resolved. The environment of conflict in the working group has subsided and there is group-wide support for the document as it is being submitted now. (1.g) The Shepherd has personally verified that the document satisfies the ID nit requirements. The document received URI and media type reviews during a previous LC, but text defining a URI scheme has since been removed. (1.h) The document's references are appropriately split into normative and informative. There is two normative references to draft documents: The first, draft-ietf-geopriv-pdif-lo-profile, is currently in the RFC Editor's queue. The second, draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery, is close to consensus in the WG and should be submitted for publication soon. (1.i) The document has an extensive IANA considerations section. The requests made of IANA are clearly written. The document requests the creation of one new registry for error codes. It proposes initial contents and establishes "Specification Required" for new values. It proposes a reasonable name for the registry. (1.j) Martin Thomson verified all the XML code. The shepherd also verified the XML using the tools at validate.openlaboratory.net. There are no MIB definitions or BNF. (The document included one line of BNF as of its last LC, but this line has since been removed.) (1.k) Announcement Writeup: Technical Summary: A Layer 7 Location Configuration Protocol (L7 LCP) is described that is used for retrieving location information from a server within an access network. The protocol includes options for retrieving location information in two forms: by value and by reference. The protocol is an extensible application-layer protocol that is independent of session-layer. This document describes the use of Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) as a transport for the protocol. Working Group This document represents a very strong consensus position of the GEOPRIV working group. This consensus was unusually difficult to acheive and carries a long history of conflict and compromise, but is nonetheless very strong at this point. Document Quality: There are multiple interoperable implementations of the protocol described in this document and strong interest in implementation and deployment. The protocol described here is referenced in ongoing work in the ECRIT working group, and in several emerging national standards for emergency calling. Lisa Dusseault has been active as the GEOPRIV working group's technical advisor during the development of this document. |
2009-02-25
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13 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-13.txt |
2009-01-28
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16 | Cullen Jennings | State Changes to AD is watching::AD Followup from AD is watching by Cullen Jennings |
2009-01-27
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12 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-12.txt |
2008-12-16
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11 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-11.txt |
2008-10-29
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10 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-10.txt |
2008-09-25
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16 | Cullen Jennings | State Changes to AD is watching from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::AD Followup by Cullen Jennings |
2008-09-25
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16 | Cullen Jennings | Due to the changes from IETF LC, we are going to run this by the WG for a short check before moving on. |
2008-09-08
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16 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2008-09-08
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09 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-09.txt |
2008-09-05
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16 | Cullen Jennings | State Changes to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::Revised ID Needed from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::AD Followup by Cullen Jennings |
2008-09-05
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16 | Cullen Jennings | Status date has been changed to 2008-09-15 from |
2008-07-10
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16 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2008-07-10
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08 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-08.txt |
2008-05-30
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16 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed. Reviewer: Eric Rescorla. |
2008-05-23
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16 | Cullen Jennings | State Change Notice email list have been change to geopriv-chairs@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery@tools.ietf.org, rbarnes@bbn.com from geopriv-chairs@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery@tools.ietf.org |
2008-05-23
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16 | Cullen Jennings | State Changes to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::Revised ID Needed from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead by Cullen Jennings |
2008-05-23
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16 | Cullen Jennings | [Note]: 'Robert Sparks is PROTO shepherd.' added by Cullen Jennings |
2008-05-07
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16 | Amanda Baber | IANA Last Call comments: Action #1: Upon approval of this document, the IANA will make the following assignment in the "NS" registry at http://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/ns.html ID … IANA Last Call comments: Action #1: Upon approval of this document, the IANA will make the following assignment in the "NS" registry at http://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/ns.html ID | URI | Reg Template | Ref held | urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:geopriv:held | | [RFC-geopriv-http-location- delivery-07] Action #2: Upon approval of this document, the IANA will make the following assignment in the "Schema" registry at http://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/schema.html ID | URI | Filename | Ref held | urn:ietf:params:xml:schema:geopriv:held | | [RFC-geopriv-http-location-delivery-07] Action #3: Upon approval of this document, the IANA will make the following assignment in the "Application Media Types" registry at http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/application/ held+xml [RFC-geopriv-http-location-delivery-07] Action #4: Upon approval of this document, the IANA will create the following registry "Geopriv Held Error Codes per [RFC-geopriv-http-location- delivery-07]" at http://www.iana.org/assignments/TBD Registration Procedures: Specification Required Note: Registrant Contact: IETF, GEOPRIV working group, (geopriv@ietf.org), Mary Barnes (mary.barnes@nortel.com). Registry: Error name | Description | Reference ------------------------------------- requestError | This code indicates that the request was badly formed in some fashion. | [RFC-geopriv-http-location-delivery-07] xmlError | This code indicates that the XML content of the request was either badly formed or invalid. | [RFC-geopriv-http-location-delivery-07] generalLisError | This code indicates that an unspecified error occurred at the LIS.| [RFC-geopriv-http-location-delivery-07] locationUnknown | This code indicates that the LIS could not determine the location of the Device.| [RFC-geopriv-http-location-delivery-07] unsupportedMessage | This code indicates that the request was not supported or understood by the LIS. | [RFC-geopriv-http-location-delivery-07] timeout | This code indicates that the LIS could not satisfy the request within the time specified in the "responseTime" parameter. | [RFC-geopriv-http-location-delivery-07] cannotProvideLiType | This code indicates that the LIS was unable to provide LI of the type or types requested. This code is used when the "exact" attribute on the "locationType" parameter is set to "true".| [RFC-geopriv-http-location-delivery-07] Action #5 Upon approval of this document, the IANA will make the following assignments in the "Schema" registry at http://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/schema.html ID | URI | Filename | Ref helds | urn:ietf:params:xml:schema:geopriv:helds | | [RFC-geopriv-http-location-delivery-07] We understand the above to be the only IANA Actions for this document. |
2008-05-07
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16 | (System) | State has been changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call by system |
2008-05-02
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16 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Eric Rescorla |
2008-05-02
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16 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Eric Rescorla |
2008-04-23
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16 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to In Last Call from Last Call Requested by Amy Vezza |
2008-04-23
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16 | Cullen Jennings | Last Call was requested by Cullen Jennings |
2008-04-23
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16 | (System) | Ballot writeup text was added |
2008-04-23
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16 | (System) | Last call text was added |
2008-04-23
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16 | (System) | Ballot approval text was added |
2008-04-23
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16 | Cullen Jennings | State Changes to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation by Cullen Jennings |
2008-04-23
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16 | Cullen Jennings | State Changes to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested by Cullen Jennings |
2008-04-23
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16 | Cullen Jennings | [Note]: 'Robert Sparks is PROTO shepherd. Some list reviews will not complete till May 18.' added by Cullen Jennings |
2008-04-23
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16 | Cullen Jennings | [Note]: 'Robert Sparks is PROTO shepherd. Some list reviews will not complete till May 18. ' added by Cullen Jennings |
2008-04-23
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16 | Cullen Jennings | [Note]: 'Robert Sparks is PROTO shepherd' added by Cullen Jennings |
2008-04-23
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16 | Cullen Jennings | The GEOPRIV working group requests publication of draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-07 as a Proposed Standard. (1.a) Robert Sparks is the document shepherd. Robert has reviewed this document and … The GEOPRIV working group requests publication of draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-07 as a Proposed Standard. (1.a) Robert Sparks is the document shepherd. Robert has reviewed this document and believes it is ready for publication. (1.b) This document has received detailed review from the entire working group and has had scrutiny from key advisors outside the working group. (1.c) The document has had input from people with good XML and security skills. Lisa Dusseault has been active in her role as technical advisor to the GEOPRIV working group during this documents development. Normal IETF LC and AD review activities should be sufficeint additional review. (1.d) The shepherd has no specific technical concerns with this document to which to call attention. No IPR disclosures have been filed against this document. (1.f) There have been no threatened appeals against this document. However, acheiving consensus on this document has not been a conflict-free process, and did result in an appeal that has already been resolved. The environment of conflict in the working group has subsided and there is group-wide support for the document as it is being submitted now. (1.g) The Shepherd has personally verified that the document satisfies the ID nit requirements. Cullen Jennings requested media type and URI reviews for this document. (1.h) The document references are appropriately split into normative and informative. There are two normative references to drafts: draft-ietf-geopriv-pdif-lo-profile : (publication requested - in AD Evaluation) draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery : (still in WG discussion) (1.i) The document has an extensive IANA considerations section. The requests made of IANA are clearly written. The document requests the creation of one new registry for error codes. It proposes initial contents and establishes "Specification Required" for new values. It proposes a reasonable name for the registry. (1.j) Martin Thomson verified all the XML code. The shepherd also verified the XML using the tools at validate.openlaboratory.net. The one line of BNF was tested against Bill Fenner's parser. There are no MIB definitions. (1.k) Announcement Writeup: Technical Summary: A Layer 7 Location Configuration Protocol (L7 LCP) is described that is used for retrieving location information from a server within an access network. The protocol includes options for retrieving location information in two forms: by value and by reference. The protocol is an extensible application-layer protocol that is independent of session-layer. This document describes the use of Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) as a transport for the protocol. Working Group Summary: This document represents a very strong consensus position of the GEOPRIV working group. This consensus was unusually difficult to acheive and carries a long history of conflict and compromise. Document Quality: There is at least one existing implementations of the protocol described in this document and strong interest in implementation and deployment. The protocol described here is referenced in ongoing work in the ECRIT working group. Lisa Dusseault has been active as the GEOPRIV working group's technical advisor during the development of this document. |
2008-04-23
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16 | Cullen Jennings | Draft Added by Cullen Jennings in state Publication Requested |
2008-04-17
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07 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-07.txt |
2008-04-10
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06 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-06.txt |
2008-02-22
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05 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-05.txt |
2008-01-14
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04 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-04.txt |
2007-11-17
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03 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-03.txt |
2007-09-28
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02 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-02.txt |
2007-07-12
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01 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-01.txt |
2007-06-08
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00 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-00.txt |