Advertisement of Segment Routing Policies using BGP Link-State
draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-17
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17 | Jenny Bui | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2025-03-06
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17 | Jenny Bui | IESG has approved the document |
2025-03-06
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17 | Jenny Bui | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2025-03-06
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17 | Jenny Bui | Ballot approval text was generated |
2025-03-06
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17 | John Scudder | Thanks for the fast work on the final updates. |
2025-03-06
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17 | John Scudder | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup |
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17 | (System) | Changed action holders to John Scudder (IESG state changed) |
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17 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised I-D Needed |
2025-03-06
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17 | Cindy Morgan | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-17.txt |
2025-03-06
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17 | Cindy Morgan | Secretariat manually posting. Approvals already received |
2025-03-06
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17 | Cindy Morgan | Uploaded new revision |
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16 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed |
2025-03-06
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16 | (System) | Changed action holders to Stefano Previdi, Jie Dong, Hannes Gredler, Jeff Tantsura, Ketan Talaulikar (IESG state changed) |
2025-03-06
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16 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation |
2025-03-06
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16 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot comment] Thank you to Ned Smith for their secdir review |
2025-03-06
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16 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Deb Cooley has been changed to No Objection from No Record |
2025-03-06
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16 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot comment] Thank you to Ned Smith for his secdir review |
2025-03-06
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16 | Deb Cooley | Ballot comment text updated for Deb Cooley |
2025-03-06
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16 | Francesca Palombini | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Francesca Palombini |
2025-03-05
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16 | Murray Kucherawy | [Ballot comment] I have my usual gripe in Section 5.1 about use of SHOULD [NOT] without any guidance about how to decide when it might … [Ballot comment] I have my usual gripe in Section 5.1 about use of SHOULD [NOT] without any guidance about how to decide when it might be reasonable to deviate from the advice given. Can we provide some? |
2025-03-05
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16 | Murray Kucherawy | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Murray Kucherawy |
2025-03-05
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16 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot comment] Section 7, paragraph 0 > The Existing BGP operational and management procedures apply to this > document. No new procedures are … [Ballot comment] Section 7, paragraph 0 > The Existing BGP operational and management procedures apply to this > document. No new procedures are defined in this document. The > considerations as specified in [RFC9552] apply to this document. Thanks to Susan Harris for the Shepherd review and to Tina Tsou for the OPSDIR review. Susan in her writeup highlights some of the operational considerations that come from the OPSDIR review. I would agree that some of those considerations should be taken up by the SRv6ops WG as possible work items, instead of trying to address them in this document. The chairs of SRv6ops have been looped into that discussion. At this time, I do not feel additional updates are needed in this document. Check whether Expert Review is an appropriate registration policy here. No reference entries found for these items, which were mentioned in the text: [draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp]. Found terminology that should be reviewed for inclusivity; see https://www.rfc-editor.org/part2/#inclusive_language for background and more guidance: * Terms "his" and "her"; alternatives might be "they", "them", "their" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NIT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All comments below are about very minor potential issues that you may choose to address in some way - or ignore - as you see fit. Some were flagged by automated tools (via https://github.com/larseggert/ietf-reviewtool), so there will likely be some false positives. There is no need to let me know what you did with these suggestions. Section 1, paragraph 15 > This extensions specified in this document complement the BGP SR > Policy SAFI [I-D.ietf-idr-sr-policy-safi] and > [I-D.ietf-idr-bgp-sr-segtypes-ext] that are used to advertise SR > Policies from controllers to the headend routers using BGP by > enabling the reporting of the operational state of those SR Policies > back from the headend to the controllers. s/This extensions specified/The extensions specified/ These URLs in the document did not return content: * https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8766220 Section 1, paragraph 9 > Policy headend nodes) via PCEP NIT: This extensions specified in this documen > ^^^^ The singular determiner "this" may not agree with the plural noun "extensions". Did you mean "these"? Section 1, paragraph 11 > m the headend to the controllers. s/This extensions specified/The extensions > ^^^^ The singular determiner "this" may not agree with the plural noun "extensions". Did you mean "these"? Section 5.6.1, paragraph 3 > their paths. The types disjointness are described in section 3 of [RFC8800] > ^^^ The verb form "are" does not seem to match the subject "disjointness". Section 5.6.2, paragraph 2 > ndicates that the computation may fallback to a lower level of disjointness > ^^^^^^^^ The word "fallback" is a noun. The verb is spelled with a space. Section 5.6.2, paragraph 3 > ndicates that the computation may fallback to the default best path (e.g. IG > ^^^^^^^^ The word "fallback" is a noun. The verb is spelled with a space. Section 5.6.6, paragraph 8 > -Flag: Indicates the SID-List is comprised of SRv6 SIDs when set and indicate > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Did you mean "comprises" or "consists of" or "is composed of"? Section 5.6.6, paragraph 8 > SIDs when set and indicates it is comprised of SR/MPLS labels when clear. - > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Did you mean "comprises" or "consists of" or "is composed of"? Section 8.3, paragraph 3 > d/or controllers/applications in a secure manner within this trusted SR domai > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Consider replacing this phrase with the adverb "securely" to avoid wordiness. |
2025-03-05
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16 | Mahesh Jethanandani | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mahesh Jethanandani |
2025-03-04
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16 | Zaheduzzaman Sarker | [Ballot comment] Thanks for working on this specification. I have one comment, I think it would improve the understanding of the ask if addressed. # … [Ballot comment] Thanks for working on this specification. I have one comment, I think it would improve the understanding of the ask if addressed. # Section 5.6.3 and 5.7.3 mention - If multiple instances are present, then the first valid one is used and the rest are ignored. How is that validity check done? A reference to the validity check procedure would be helpful here. |
2025-03-04
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16 | Zaheduzzaman Sarker | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Zaheduzzaman Sarker |
2025-03-03
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16 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2025-03-03
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16 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-16.txt |
2025-03-03
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16 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2025-03-03
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16 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2025-03-03
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15 | Gunter Van de Velde | [Ballot comment] Thank you for this work and the great writeup. It has been quiet a journey to get finally at this stage. |
2025-03-03
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15 | Gunter Van de Velde | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Gunter Van de Velde |
2025-03-03
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15 | Jim Guichard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jim Guichard |
2025-03-01
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15 | Orie Steele | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Orie Steele |
2025-02-28
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15 | Erik Kline | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline |
2025-02-28
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15 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2025-02-28
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15 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-15.txt |
2025-02-28
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15 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2025-02-28
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15 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2025-02-27
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14 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] Thank you Meral Shirazipour for the GENART review. |
2025-02-27
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14 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
2025-02-27
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14 | Susan Hares | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? Strong consensus with good discussions. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PndHjsj0nj6fFZ97inb8iz8_Qvk/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/0dL1E-C74DUgkjyOlvFStqingfg/ 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No. The discussion was active and provided good refinements to the draft. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/?q=draft-ietf-idr-sr-bgp-ls-sr-policy 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? 2 implementations: See https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/implementations/draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution One implementation does not have PCE and BGP co-resident, so it does not transmit the code to indicate the "reported via PCE" code. The Shepherd does not feel this should hold up standardization. Both Huawei and Cisco have implemented nine of the TLVs. Cisco has implemented all 18 of the TLVs. One group of TLVs not implemented by Huawei are the Constraint related TLVs (SR CP Constraints, SR AFfinity Constraint, SR SRLG Constraint, SR Bandwidth Constraint, SR Disjoint Group Constraint, SR Bidirectional Group Constraint, SR Metric Sontraint). The second group is the SR Segment list Bandwidth and the SR Segment list Bandwidth. #Shepherd review page: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/Shepherd-SR-BGP-LS/BGP-LS-SR/bgp-ls-sr-policy [you also go through the IDR wiki - See BGP-LS and SR Shepherd REviews) Shepherd Reviews on SR and BGP-LS drafts [https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/Shepherd-SR-BGP-LS] ## Additional Early Direcorate Reviews Reviews RTG-DIR (Joel Halpern): Ready with a few comments SEC-DIR (Net Smith, 2/5): Ready with Nits GEN-ART (Meral Shirazipour, 2/21) Ready OPS-DIR (Tina Tsou): Has Issues regarding Scaling - addressed by Ketan https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PRhis-VEcyVEjQItu2VUYNLtj0Y/ 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The BGP-LS for SR technologies closely interact with the spring and the srv6ops WG. These WG were directly queried on 11/10/2024. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. The need for Yang models modeling this work has been added to: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/BGP-Model-Features 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? Not applicable since this is not a Yang model. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. Not applicable. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Links to Shepherd's report is on IDR wiki https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/Shepherd-SR-BGP-LS/BGP-LS-SR/bgp-ls-sr-policy Mail lists: See Shepherd's review prior to WG LC: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/DLfvkhT7HOClFSfUzFNQ9z8bSFc/ See Shepherd's review of -08/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ Please note the Shepherd requested AD review of 3 items: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ and https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/CvA1crVQJVfTDl2yvjNp_8kcXRo/ Ketant's viewpoint is that #15 = Maximum that fits in packet resolved by RFC9552/section 5.3 #18 and #30 - Ketan believes the metric types are not being consumed in BGP-LS. As new IANA code points are added, the implementers will know what is range and what is not. John Scudder agreed with this viewpoint: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/bje6-B888d6Eykk7Q7IJ-GMM7wA/ RTG-DIR review (Joel Halpern, and OK) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuD4n-9b4-dMI1SQa1vkCPK7nfA/ OPS-DIR review (Tina Tsou, Has Issues - Resolved ) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PRhis-VEcyVEjQItu2VUYNLtj0Y/ Ketan's response indicates that explanations ask for repetition of information in RFC9552 and RFC95256. For consumer validation, the BGP-LS restates that consumer of the BGP-LS information is outside the scope of BGP. [The Shepherd has been through these issues with the authors, but the OPS-AD should be warned to review this OPS-DIR review during the AD evaluation. Better an early discussion that a late discovery.] GEN-DIR (2/5, Ned Smith): Ready with NITS https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/secdir/f3JFqPR978Jq9_ypAT1Dn2UlxaE/ - Ned Smith noted 3 conventions unique to the BGP-LS work. Ketan explained these conventions in his response. SEC-DIR Review (2/26, Meral Shirazipour): Ready with NITs - Only editoral 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? Yes - a few points from section 9 are summarized for Routing and Security lists: This is an extension of BGP-LS to manage/monitor SR policy for a truster SR domain [RFC8402]. It states: a) SR operates within a trusted SR domain [RFC8402), and the security considerations apply to this document. b) Controllers and application services using the BGP-LS information are expected to be within the trusted SR domain, c) SR Policy data is critical data "that constitutes a risk to [the] confidentiality of mission-critical or commercially sensitive" data. As always, BGP-ls traffic needs to be isolated from other BGP traffic (due to load) 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard: Why Proposed standard: This draft augments proposed standards for BGP-LS and SR in BGP (RFC9552, RFC9514, RFC9086). Adding values to the following existing registries for BGP-LS: a) BGP-LS NLRI-Types b) BGP-LS Protocol-IDs c) BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute TLV The following registry related to BGP-LS and PCEP was requested to be create: SR Policy Protocol Origin The following new registries are created: 1.) BGP-LS SR Segment Descriptors 2) BGP-LS SR Policy Metric Type 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. Ketan Talaulikar https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/XNMFZ7_-GYwEVzALZF9aTylLWQQ/ Jie Dong: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuBOyS4Yuuiq1fgvbSZtPiHbLW4/ Jeff Tantsura https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/9h3iYa7fzYE3lvNcOaeOeheBoiM/ Clarence Filsfils https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/QaTiyYvGE5Yd6w1_JW_fz94ZpZs/ 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. Yes. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) NITs check - just https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/LyA6VOHdEJEuZjaV4HRaXnd8QzU/ NIT Check response: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/BwcU5Bmxd_7RyULcwQAcG5uTUmg/ 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? No. All are RFCs. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? No. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). See IANA's early review of the document: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/Xw9HfBTseSO_2dfV7UDRwoqKNAM/ Adding values to the following existing registries a) BGP-LS NLRI-Types b) BGP-LS Protocol-IDs c) BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute TLV 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. 1. SR Policy Protocol Origin registry - a new registry under "Segment Routing" with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 2. SR Segment Descriptor Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 3. BGP-LS SR Policy Metric Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 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14 | Susan Hares | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? Strong consensus with good discussions. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PndHjsj0nj6fFZ97inb8iz8_Qvk/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/0dL1E-C74DUgkjyOlvFStqingfg/ 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No. The discussion was active and provided good refinements to the draft. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/?q=draft-ietf-idr-sr-bgp-ls-sr-policy 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? 2 implementations: See https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/implementations/draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution One implementation does not have PCE and BGP co-resident, so it does not transmit the code to indicate the "reported via PCE" code. The Shepherd does not feel this should hold up standardization. Both Huawei and Cisco have implemented nine of the TLVs. Cisco has implemented all 18 of the TLVs. One group of TLVs not implemented by Huawei are the Constraint related TLVs (SR CP Constraints, SR AFfinity Constraint, SR SRLG Constraint, SR Bandwidth Constraint, SR Disjoint Group Constraint, SR Bidirectional Group Constraint, SR Metric Sontraint). The second group is the SR Segment list Bandwidth and the SR Segment list Bandwidth. #Shepherd review page: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/Shepherd-SR-BGP-LS/BGP-LS-SR/bgp-ls-sr-policy [you also go through the IDR wiki - See BGP-LS and SR Shepherd REviews) Shepherd Reviews on SR and BGP-LS drafts [https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/Shepherd-SR-BGP-LS] ## Additional Early Direcorate Reviews Reviews RTG-DIR (Joel Halpern): Ready with a few comments SEC-DIR (Net Smith, 2/5): Ready with Nits GEN-ART (Meral Shirazipour, 2/21) Ready OPS-DIR (Tina Tsou): Has Issues regarding Scaling - addressed by Ketan https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PRhis-VEcyVEjQItu2VUYNLtj0Y/ 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The BGP-LS for SR technologies closely interact with the spring and the srv6ops WG. These WG were directly queried on 11/10/2024. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. The need for Yang models modeling this work has been added to: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/BGP-Model-Features 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? Not applicable since this is not a Yang model. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. Not applicable. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Links to Shepherd's report is on IDR wiki https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/Shepherd-SR-BGP-LS/BGP-LS-SR/bgp-ls-sr-policy This may be an easy form to quick read. Mail lists: See Shepherd's review prior to WG LC: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/DLfvkhT7HOClFSfUzFNQ9z8bSFc/ See Shepherd's review of -08/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ Please note the Shepherd requested AD review of 3 items: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ and https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/CvA1crVQJVfTDl2yvjNp_8kcXRo/ Ketant's viewpoint is that #15 = Maximum that fits in packet resolved by RFC9552/section 5.3 #18 and #30 - Ketan believes the metric types are not being consumed in BGP-LS. As new IANA code points are added, the implementers will know what is range and what is not. John Scudder agreed with this viewpoint: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/bje6-B888d6Eykk7Q7IJ-GMM7wA/ RTG-DIR review (and OK) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuD4n-9b4-dMI1SQa1vkCPK7nfA/ OPS-DIR review (Tina Tsou) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PRhis-VEcyVEjQItu2VUYNLtj0Y/ Ketan's response indicates that explanations ask for repetition of information in RFC9552 and RFC95256. For consumer validation, the BGP-LS restates that consumer of the BGP-LS information is outside the scope of BGP. [The Shepherd has been through these issues with the authors, but the OPS-AD should be warned to review this OPS-DIR review during the AD evaluation. Better an early discussion that a late discovery.] 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? Yes - a few points from section 9 are summarized for Routing and Security lists: This is an extension of BGP-LS to manage/monitor SR policy for a truster SR domain [RFC8402]. It states: a) SR operates within a trusted SR domain [RFC8402), and the security considerations apply to this document. b) Controllers and application services using the BGP-LS information are expected to be within the trusted SR domain, c) SR Policy data is critical data "that constitutes a risk to [the] confidentiality of mission-critical or commercially sensitive" data. As always, BGP-ls traffic needs to be isolated from other BGP traffic (due to load) 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard: 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. Ketan Talaulikar https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/XNMFZ7_-GYwEVzALZF9aTylLWQQ/ Jie Dong: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuBOyS4Yuuiq1fgvbSZtPiHbLW4/ Jeff Tantsura https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/9h3iYa7fzYE3lvNcOaeOeheBoiM/ Clarence Filsfils https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/QaTiyYvGE5Yd6w1_JW_fz94ZpZs/ 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. Yes. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) NITs check - just https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/LyA6VOHdEJEuZjaV4HRaXnd8QzU/ NIT Check response: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/BwcU5Bmxd_7RyULcwQAcG5uTUmg/ 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? No. All are RFCs. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? No. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). See IANA's early review of the document: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/Xw9HfBTseSO_2dfV7UDRwoqKNAM/ Adding values to the following existing registries a) BGP-LS NLRI-Types b) BGP-LS Protocol-IDs c) BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute TLV 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. 1. SR Policy Protocol Origin registry - a new registry under "Segment Routing" with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 2. SR Segment Descriptor Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 3. BGP-LS SR Policy Metric Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
2025-02-27
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14 | John Scudder | Ballot has been issued |
2025-02-27
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14 | John Scudder | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for John Scudder |
2025-02-27
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14 | John Scudder | Created "Approve" ballot |
2025-02-27
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14 | John Scudder | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
2025-02-27
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14 | John Scudder | Ballot writeup was changed |
2025-02-27
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14 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
2025-02-25
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14 | David Dong | IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-14. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that some … IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-14. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that some of the actions requested in the IANA Considerations section of [ RFC-to-be ] are dependent upon the approval of and completion of IANA Actions in another document: draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp IANA understands that, upon approval of [ RFC-to-be ], there are six actions which we must complete. First, in the BGP-LS NLRI Types registry in the Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-ls-parameters/ the early registration for: Type: 5 NLRI Type: SR Policy Candidate Path NLRI will have its reference changed to [ RFC-to-be ]. Second, in the BGP-LS Protocol-IDs registry also in the Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-ls-parameters/ the early registration for Protocol-ID: 9 NLRI information source protocol: Segment Routing will have its reference changed to [ RFC-to-be ]. Third, in the BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute TLVs registry in the Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-ls-parameters/ the early registration for the following TLV Code Points will have their references changed to [ RFC-to-be ]: TLV Code Point: 554 ; Description: SR Policy Candidate Path Descriptor TLV Code Point: 1201 ; Description: SR Binding SID TLV Code Point: 1202 ; Description: SR Candidate Path State TLV Code Point: 1203 ; Description: SR Candidate Path Name TLV Code Point: 1204 ; Description: SR Candidate Path Constraints TLV Code Point: 1205 ; Description: SR Segment List TLV Code Point: 1206 ; Description: SR Segment TLV Code Point: 1207 ; Description: SR Segment List Metric TLV Code Point: 1208 ; Description: SR Affinity Constraint TLV Code Point: 1209 ; Description: SR SRLG Constraint TLV Code Point: 1210 ; Description: SR Bandwidth Constraint TLV Code Point: 1211 ; Description: SR Disjoint Group Constraint TLV Code Point: 1212 ; Description: SRv6 Binding SID TLV Code Point: 1213 ; Description: SR Policy Name TLV Code Point: 1214 ; Description: SR Bidirectional Group Constraint TLV Code Point: 1215 ; Description: SR Metric Constraint TLV Code Point: 1216 ; Description: SR Segment List Bandwidth TLV Code Point: 1217 ; Description: SR Segment List Identifier Fourth, a new registry is to be created called the SR Policy Protocol Origin registry. The new registry will be located in the Segment Routing registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/segment-routing/ IANA understands that this registry is being created in coordination with the approval of draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp and that, once approved, the reference for the registry should point to that document as well as the current [ RFC-to-be ]. The allocation policy for the new registry is Expert Review as defined in RFC8126. The new registry will have initial registrations from draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp. In addition, the new registry will have the following, initial allocations: Code Point Protocol Origin Reference +---------+--------------------------------------+---------------+ 0 Reserved (not to be used) [ RFC-to-be ] 1 PCEP [ RFC-to-be ] 2 BGP SR Policy [ RFC-to-be ] 3 Configuration (CLI, YANG model via [ RFC-to-be ] NETCONF, etc.) 4-9 Unassigned 10 PCEP (In PCEP or when [ RFC-to-be ] BGP-LS Producer is PCE) 11-19 Unassigned 20 BGP SR Policy (In PCEP or when [ RFC-to-be ] BGP-LS Producer is PCE) 21-29 Unassigned 30 Configuration (CLI, YANG model via [ RFC-to-be ] NETCONF, etc.) (In PCEP or when BGP-LS Producer is PCE) 31-250 Unassigned 251-255 Private Use (not to be assigned by [ RFC-to-be ] IANA Fifth, a new registry is to be created called the SR Segment Descriptor Types registry. The new registry will be located in the Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-ls-parameters/ The new registry is to be managed via Expert Review as defined in RFC8126. There are initial registrations in the new registry as follows: Code Segment Description Point Reference --------+-----------------------------------------------------------+------------- 0 Reserved (not to be used) [ RFC-to-be ] 1 (Type A) SR-MPLS Label [ RFC-to-be ] 2 (Type B) SRv6 SID as IPv6 address [ RFC-to-be ] 3 (Type C) SR-MPLS Prefix SID as IPv4 Node Address [ RFC-to-be ] 4 (Type D) SR-MPLS Prefix SID as IPv6 Node Global Address [ RFC-to-be ] 5 (Type E) SR-MPLS Adjacency SID as IPv4 Node Address & [ RFC-to-be ] Local Interface ID 6 (Type F) SR-MPLS Adjacency SID as IPv4 Local & Remote [ RFC-to-be ] Interface Addresses 7 (Type G) SR-MPLS Adjacency SID as pair of IPv6 Global [ RFC-to-be ] Address & Interface ID for Local & Remote nodes 8 (Type H) SR-MPLS Adjacency SID as pair of IPv6 Global [ RFC-to-be ] Addresses for the Local & Remote Interface 9 (Type I) SRv6 END SID as IPv6 Node Global Address [ RFC-to-be ] 10 (Type J) SRv6 END.X SID as pair of IPv6 Global Address & [ RFC-to-be ] Interface ID for Local & Remote nodes 11 (Type K) SRv6 END.X SID as pair of IPv6 Global Addresses [ RFC-to-be ] for the Local & Remote Interface 12-255 Unassigned Sixth, a new registry is to be created called the BGP-LS SR Policy Metric Type registry. The new registry will also be located in the Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-ls-parameters/ The new registry is to be managed via Expert Review as defined in RFC8126. There are initial registrations in the new registry as follows: Code Point Metric Type Reference ---------+--------------------------------+--------------------- 0 IGP [ RFC-to-be ] 1 Min Unidirectional Delay [ RFC-to-be ] 2 TE [ RFC-to-be ] 3 Hop Count [ RFC-to-be ] 4 SID List Length [ RFC-to-be ] 5 Bandwidth [ RFC-to-be ] 6 Avg Unidirectional Delay [ RFC-to-be ] 7 Unidirectional Delay Variation [ RFC-to-be ] 8 Loss [ RFC-to-be ] 9-127 Unassigned 128-255 User Defined [ RFC-to-be ] We understand that these are the only actions required to be completed upon approval of [ RFC-to-be ]. NOTE: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the list of actions that will be performed. For definitions of IANA review states, please see: https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/iana-review Thank you, David Dong IANA Services Sr. Specialist |
2025-02-25
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14 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed |
2025-02-21
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14 | Meral Shirazipour | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Meral Shirazipour. Sent review to list. Submission of review completed at an earlier date. |
2025-02-21
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14 | Meral Shirazipour | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Meral Shirazipour. |
2025-02-17
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14 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-14.txt |
2025-02-17
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14 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2025-02-17
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14 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2025-02-14
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13 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Meral Shirazipour |
2025-02-14
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13 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-13.txt |
2025-02-14
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13 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2025-02-14
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13 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2025-02-13
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12 | Cindy Morgan | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2025-02-13
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12 | Cindy Morgan | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-02-27): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy@ietf.org, idr-chairs@ietf.org, idr@ietf.org, jgs@juniper.net, shares@ndzh.com … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-02-27): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy@ietf.org, idr-chairs@ietf.org, idr@ietf.org, jgs@juniper.net, shares@ndzh.com Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (Advertisement of Segment Routing Policies using BGP Link-State) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Inter-Domain Routing WG (idr) to consider the following document: - 'Advertisement of Segment Routing Policies using BGP Link-State' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2025-02-27. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document describes a mechanism to collect the Segment Routing Policy information that is locally available in a node and advertise it into BGP Link-State (BGP-LS) updates. Such information can be used by external components for path computation, re-optimization, service placement, network visualization, etc. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2025-02-13
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12 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2025-02-13
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12 | John Scudder | Last call was requested |
2025-02-13
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12 | John Scudder | Last call announcement was generated |
2025-02-13
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12 | John Scudder | Ballot approval text was generated |
2025-02-13
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12 | John Scudder | Ballot writeup was generated |
2025-02-13
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12 | John Scudder | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation |
2025-02-11
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12 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-12.txt |
2025-02-11
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12 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2025-02-11
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12 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2025-02-05
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11 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-11.txt |
2025-02-05
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11 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2025-02-05
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11 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2025-02-05
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10 | Ned Smith | Request for Telechat review by SECDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Ned Smith. Sent review to list. |
2025-01-31
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10 | John Scudder | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2025-01-28
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10 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Telechat review by SECDIR is assigned to Ned Smith |
2025-01-23
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10 | Cindy Morgan | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2025-03-06 |
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10 | Susan Hares | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? Strong consensus with good discussions. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PndHjsj0nj6fFZ97inb8iz8_Qvk/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/0dL1E-C74DUgkjyOlvFStqingfg/ 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No. The discussion was active and provided good refinements to the draft. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/?q=draft-ietf-idr-sr-bgp-ls-sr-policy 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? 2 implementations: See https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/implementations/draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution One implementation does not have PCE and BGP co-resident, so it does not transmit the code to indicate the "reported via PCE" code. The Shepherd does not feel this should hold up standardization. Both Huawei and Cisco have implemented nine of the TLVs. Cisco has implemented all 18 of the TLVs. One group of TLVs not implemented by Huawei are the Constraint related TLVs (SR CP Constraints, SR AFfinity Constraint, SR SRLG Constraint, SR Bandwidth Constraint, SR Disjoint Group Constraint, SR Bidirectional Group Constraint, SR Metric Sontraint). The second group is the SR Segment list Bandwidth and the SR Segment list Bandwidth. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The BGP-LS for SR technologies closely interact with the spring and the srv6ops WG. These WG were directly queried on 11/10/2024. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. The need for Yang models modeling this work has been added to: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/BGP-Model-Features 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? Not applicable since this is not a Yang model. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. Not applicable. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Links to Shepherd's report is on IDR wiki https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/Shepherd-SR-BGP-LS/BGP-LS-SR/bgp-ls-sr-policy This may be an easy form to quick read. Mail lists: See Shepherd's review prior to WG LC: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/DLfvkhT7HOClFSfUzFNQ9z8bSFc/ See Shepherd's review of -08/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ Please note the Shepherd requested AD review of 3 items: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ and https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/CvA1crVQJVfTDl2yvjNp_8kcXRo/ Ketant's viewpoint is that #15 = Maximum that fits in packet resolved by RFC9552/section 5.3 #18 and #30 - Ketan believes the metric types are not being consumed in BGP-LS. As new IANA code points are added, the implementers will know what is range and what is not. John Scudder agreed with this viewpoint: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/bje6-B888d6Eykk7Q7IJ-GMM7wA/ RTG-DIR review (and OK) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuD4n-9b4-dMI1SQa1vkCPK7nfA/ OPS-DIR review (Tina Tsou) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PRhis-VEcyVEjQItu2VUYNLtj0Y/ Ketan's response indicates that explanations ask for repetition of information in RFC9552 and RFC95256. For consumer validation, the BGP-LS restates that consumer of the BGP-LS information is outside the scope of BGP. [The Shepherd has been through these issues with the authors, but the OPS-AD should be warned to review this OPS-DIR review during the AD evaluation. Better an early discussion that a late discovery.] 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? Yes - a few points from section 9 are summarized for Routing and Security lists: This is an extension of BGP-LS to manage/monitor SR policy for a truster SR domain [RFC8402]. It states: a) SR operates within a trusted SR domain [RFC8402), and the security considerations apply to this document. b) Controllers and application services using the BGP-LS information are expected to be within the trusted SR domain, c) SR Policy data is critical data "that constitutes a risk to [the] confidentiality of mission-critical or commercially sensitive" data. As always, BGP-ls traffic needs to be isolated from other BGP traffic (due to load) 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard: 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. Ketan Talaulikar https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/XNMFZ7_-GYwEVzALZF9aTylLWQQ/ Jie Dong: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuBOyS4Yuuiq1fgvbSZtPiHbLW4/ Jeff Tantsura https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/9h3iYa7fzYE3lvNcOaeOeheBoiM/ Clarence Filsfils https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/QaTiyYvGE5Yd6w1_JW_fz94ZpZs/ 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. Yes. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) NITs check - just https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/LyA6VOHdEJEuZjaV4HRaXnd8QzU/ NIT Check response: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/BwcU5Bmxd_7RyULcwQAcG5uTUmg/ 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? No. All are RFCs. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? No. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). See IANA's early review of the document: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/Xw9HfBTseSO_2dfV7UDRwoqKNAM/ Adding values to the following existing registries a) BGP-LS NLRI-Types b) BGP-LS Protocol-IDs c) BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute TLV 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. 1. SR Policy Protocol Origin registry - a new registry under "Segment Routing" with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 2. SR Segment Descriptor Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 3. BGP-LS SR Policy Metric Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
2024-12-28
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10 | Tina Tsou | Request for Early review by OPSDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: Tina Tsou. Sent review to list. Submission of review completed at an earlier date. |
2024-12-28
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10 | Tina Tsou | Request for Early review by OPSDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: Tina Tsou. |
2024-12-27
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10 | Carlos Pignataro | Request for Early review by OPSDIR is assigned to Tina Tsou |
2024-12-13
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10 | Susan Hares | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? Strong consensus with good discussions. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PndHjsj0nj6fFZ97inb8iz8_Qvk/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/0dL1E-C74DUgkjyOlvFStqingfg/ 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No. The discussion was active and provided good refinements to the draft. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/?q=draft-ietf-idr-sr-bgp-ls-sr-policy 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? 2 implementations: See https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/implementations/draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution One implementation does not have PCE and BGP co-resident, so it does not transmit the code to indicate the "reported via PCE" code. The Shepherd does not feel this should hold up standardization. Both Huawei and Cisco have implemented nine of the TLVs. Cisco has implemented all 18 of the TLVs. One group of TLVs not implemented by Huawei are the Constraint related TLVs (SR CP Constraints, SR AFfinity Constraint, SR SRLG Constraint, SR Bandwidth Constraint, SR Disjoint Group Constraint, SR Bidirectional Group Constraint, SR Metric Sontraint). The second group is the SR Segment list Bandwidth and the SR Segment list Bandwidth. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The BGP-LS for SR technologies closely interact with the spring and the srv6ops WG. These WG were directly queried on 11/10/2024. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. The need for Yang models modeling this work has been added to: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/BGP-Model-Features 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? Not applicable since this is not a Yang model. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. Not applicable. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Links to Shepherd's report is on IDR wiki https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/Shepherd-SR-BGP-LS/BGP-LS-SR/bgp-ls-sr-policy This may be an easy form to quick read. Mail lists: See Shepherd's review prior to WG LC: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/DLfvkhT7HOClFSfUzFNQ9z8bSFc/ See Shepherd's review of -08/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ Please note the Shepherd requested AD review of 3 items: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ and https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/CvA1crVQJVfTDl2yvjNp_8kcXRo/ Ketant's viewpoint is that #15 = Maximum that fits in packet resolved by RFC9552/section 5.3 #18 and #30 - Ketan believes the metric types are not being consumed in BGP-LS. As new IANA code points are added, the implementers will know what is range and what is not. John Scudder agreed with this viewpoint: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/bje6-B888d6Eykk7Q7IJ-GMM7wA/ RTG-DIR review (and OK) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuD4n-9b4-dMI1SQa1vkCPK7nfA/ 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? Yes - a few points from section 9 are summarized for Routing and Security lists: This is an extension of BGP-LS to manage/monitor SR policy for a truster SR domain [RFC8402]. It states: a) SR operates within a trusted SR domain [RFC8402), and the security considerations apply to this document. b) Controllers and application services using the BGP-LS information are expected to be within the trusted SR domain, c) SR Policy data is critical data "that constitutes a risk to [the] confidentiality of mission-critical or commercially sensitive" data. As always, BGP-ls traffic needs to be isolated from other BGP traffic (due to load) 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard: 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. Ketan Talaulikar https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/XNMFZ7_-GYwEVzALZF9aTylLWQQ/ Jie Dong: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuBOyS4Yuuiq1fgvbSZtPiHbLW4/ Jeff Tantsura https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/9h3iYa7fzYE3lvNcOaeOeheBoiM/ Clarence Filsfils https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/QaTiyYvGE5Yd6w1_JW_fz94ZpZs/ 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. Yes. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) NITs check - just https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/LyA6VOHdEJEuZjaV4HRaXnd8QzU/ NIT Check response: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/BwcU5Bmxd_7RyULcwQAcG5uTUmg/ 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? No. All are RFCs. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? No. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). See IANA's early review of the document: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/Xw9HfBTseSO_2dfV7UDRwoqKNAM/ Adding values to the following existing registries a) BGP-LS NLRI-Types b) BGP-LS Protocol-IDs c) BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute TLV 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. 1. SR Policy Protocol Origin registry - a new registry under "Segment Routing" with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 2. SR Segment Descriptor Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 3. BGP-LS SR Policy Metric Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
2024-12-13
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10 | Susan Hares | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
2024-12-13
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10 | Susan Hares | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists |
2024-12-13
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10 | (System) | Changed action holders to John Scudder (IESG state changed) |
2024-12-13
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10 | Susan Hares | Responsible AD changed to John Scudder |
2024-12-13
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10 | Susan Hares | Document is now in IESG state Publication Requested |
2024-12-13
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10 | Susan Hares | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2024-12-13
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10 | Susan Hares | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
2024-12-13
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10 | Susan Hares | Tags Other - see Comment Log, Doc Shepherd Follow-up Underway cleared. |
2024-12-13
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10 | Susan Hares | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? Strong consensus with good discussions. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PndHjsj0nj6fFZ97inb8iz8_Qvk/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/0dL1E-C74DUgkjyOlvFStqingfg/ 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No. The discussion was active and provided good refinements to the draft. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/?q=draft-ietf-idr-sr-bgp-ls-sr-policy 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? 2 implementations: See https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/implementations/draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution One implementation does not have PCE and BGP co-resident, so it does not transmit the code to indicate the "reported via PCE" code. The Shepherd does not feel this should hold up standardization. Both Huawei and Cisco have implemented nine of the TLVs. Cisco has implemented all 18 of the TLVs. One group of TLVs not implemented by Huawei are the Constraint related TLVs (SR CP Constraints, SR AFfinity Constraint, SR SRLG Constraint, SR Bandwidth Constraint, SR Disjoint Group Constraint, SR Bidirectional Group Constraint, SR Metric Sontraint). The second group is the SR Segment list Bandwidth and the SR Segment list Bandwidth. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The BGP-LS for SR technologies closely interact with the spring and the srv6ops WG. These WG were directly queried on 11/10/2024. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. The need for Yang models modeling this work has been added to: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/BGP-Model-Features 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? Not applicable since this is not a Yang model. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. Not applicable. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Links to Shepherd's report is on IDR wiki https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/Shepherd-SR-BGP-LS/BGP-LS-SR/bgp-ls-sr-policy This may be an easy form to quick read. Mail lists: See Shepherd's review prior to WG LC: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/DLfvkhT7HOClFSfUzFNQ9z8bSFc/ See Shepherd's review of -08/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ Please note the Shepherd requested AD review of 3 items: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ and https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/CvA1crVQJVfTDl2yvjNp_8kcXRo/ Ketant's viewpoint is that #15 = Maximum that fits in packet resolved by RFC9552/section 5.3 #18 and #30 - Ketan believes the metric types are not being consumed in BGP-LS. As new IANA code points are added, the implementers will know what is range and what is not. John Scudder agreed with this viewpoint: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/bje6-B888d6Eykk7Q7IJ-GMM7wA/ RTG-DIR review (and OK) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuD4n-9b4-dMI1SQa1vkCPK7nfA/ 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? Yes - a few points from section 9 are summarized for Routing and Security lists: This is an extension of BGP-LS to manage/monitor SR policy for a truster SR domain [RFC8402]. It states: a) SR operates within a trusted SR domain [RFC8402), and the security considerations apply to this document. b) Controllers and application services using the BGP-LS information are expected to be within the trusted SR domain, c) SR Policy data is critical data "that constitutes a risk to [the] confidentiality of mission-critical or commercially sensitive" data. As always, BGP-ls traffic needs to be isolated from other BGP traffic (due to load) 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard: 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. Ketan Talaulikar https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/XNMFZ7_-GYwEVzALZF9aTylLWQQ/ Jie Dong: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuBOyS4Yuuiq1fgvbSZtPiHbLW4/ Jeff Tantsura https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/9h3iYa7fzYE3lvNcOaeOeheBoiM/ Clarence Filsfils https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/QaTiyYvGE5Yd6w1_JW_fz94ZpZs/ 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. Yes. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) NITs check - just https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/LyA6VOHdEJEuZjaV4HRaXnd8QzU/ NIT Check response: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/BwcU5Bmxd_7RyULcwQAcG5uTUmg/ 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? No. All are RFCs. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? No. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). See IANA's early review of the document: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/Xw9HfBTseSO_2dfV7UDRwoqKNAM/ Adding values to the following existing registries a) BGP-LS NLRI-Types b) BGP-LS Protocol-IDs c) BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute TLV 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. 1. SR Policy Protocol Origin registry - a new registry under "Segment Routing" with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 2. SR Segment Descriptor Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 3. BGP-LS SR Policy Metric Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
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10 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-10.txt |
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10 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
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10 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
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09 | Joel Halpern | Request for Early review by RTGDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Joel Halpern. Sent review to list. |
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09 | Daniam Henriques | Request for Early review by RTGDIR is assigned to Joel Halpern |
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09 | Susan Hares | Shepherd report is complete, but we need an early RTG-DIR review before sending to IESG for publication. |
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09 | Susan Hares | Tags Other - see Comment Log, Doc Shepherd Follow-up Underway set. |
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09 | Susan Hares | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call |
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09 | Susan Hares | Requested Early review by RTGDIR |
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09 | Susan Hares | Requested Early review by OPSDIR |
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09 | Susan Hares | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? Strong consensus with good discussions. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PndHjsj0nj6fFZ97inb8iz8_Qvk/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/0dL1E-C74DUgkjyOlvFStqingfg/ 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No. The discussion was active and provided good refinements to the draft. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/?q=draft-ietf-idr-sr-bgp-ls-sr-policy 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? 2 implementations: See https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/implementations/draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution One implementation does not have PCE and BGP co-resident, so it does not transmit the code to indicate the "reported via PCE" code. The Shepherd does not feel this should hold up standardization. Both Huawei and Cisco have implemented nine of the TLVs. Cisco has implemented all 18 of the TLVs. One group of TLVs not implemented by Huawei are the Constraint related TLVs (SR CP Constraints, SR AFfinity Constraint, SR SRLG Constraint, SR Bandwidth Constraint, SR Disjoint Group Constraint, SR Bidirectional Group Constraint, SR Metric Sontraint). The second group is the SR Segment list Bandwidth and the SR Segment list Bandwidth. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The BGP-LS for SR technologies closely interact with the spring and the srv6ops WG. These WG were directly queried on 11/10/2024. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. The need for Yang models modeling this work has been added to: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/BGP-Model-Features 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? Not applicable since this is not a Yang model. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. Not applicable. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Links to Shepherd's report is on IDR wiki https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/Shepherd-SR-BGP-LS/BGP-LS-SR/bgp-ls-sr-policy This may be an easy form to quick read. Mail lists: See Shepherd's review prior to WG LC: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/DLfvkhT7HOClFSfUzFNQ9z8bSFc/ See Shepherd's review of -08/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ Please note the Shepherd requested AD review of 3 items: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ and https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/CvA1crVQJVfTDl2yvjNp_8kcXRo/ Ketant's viewpoint is that #15 = Maximum that fits in packet resolved by RFC9552/section 5.3 #18 and #30 - Ketan believes the metric types are not being consumed in BGP-LS. As new IANA code points are added, the implementers will know what is range and what is not. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? Yes - a few points from section 9 are summarized for Routing and Security lists: This is an extension of BGP-LS to manage/monitor SR policy for a truster SR domain [RFC8402]. It states: a) SR operates within a trusted SR domain [RFC8402), and the security considerations apply to this document. b) Controllers and application services using the BGP-LS information are expected to be within the trusted SR domain, c) SR Policy data is critical data "that constitutes a risk to [the] confidentiality of mission-critical or commercially sensitive" data. As always, BGP-ls traffic needs to be isolated from other BGP traffic (due to load) 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard: 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. Ketan Talaulikar https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/XNMFZ7_-GYwEVzALZF9aTylLWQQ/ Jie Dong: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuBOyS4Yuuiq1fgvbSZtPiHbLW4/ Jeff Tantsura https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/9h3iYa7fzYE3lvNcOaeOeheBoiM/ Clarence Filsfils https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/QaTiyYvGE5Yd6w1_JW_fz94ZpZs/ 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. Yes. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) NITs check https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/LyA6VOHdEJEuZjaV4HRaXnd8QzU/ 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? No. All are RFCs. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? No. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). See IANA's early review of the document: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/Xw9HfBTseSO_2dfV7UDRwoqKNAM/ Adding values to the following existing registries a) BGP-LS NLRI-Types b) BGP-LS Protocol-IDs c) BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute TLV 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. 1. SR Policy Protocol Origin registry - a new registry under "Segment Routing" with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 2. SR Segment Descriptor Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 3. BGP-LS SR Policy Metric Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
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09 | Susan Hares | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? Strong consensus with good discussions. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PndHjsj0nj6fFZ97inb8iz8_Qvk/ 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No. The discussion was active and provided good refinements to the draft. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/?q=draft-ietf-idr-sr-bgp-ls-sr-policy 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? 2 implementations: See https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/implementations/draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution One implementation does not have PCE and BGP co-resident, so it does not transmit the code to indicate the "reported via PCE" code. The Shepherd does not feel this should hold up standardization. Both Huawei and Cisco have implemented nine of the TLVs. Cisco has implemented all 18 of the TLVs. One group of TLVs not implemented by Huawei are the Constraint related TLVs (SR CP Constraints, SR AFfinity Constraint, SR SRLG Constraint, SR Bandwidth Constraint, SR Disjoint Group Constraint, SR Bidirectional Group Constraint, SR Metric Sontraint). The second group is the SR Segment list Bandwidth and the SR Segment list Bandwidth. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The BGP-LS for SR technologies closely interact with the spring and the srv6ops WG. These WG were directly queried on 11/10/2024. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. The need for Yang models modeling this work has been added to: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/BGP-Model-Features 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? Not applicable since this is not a Yang model. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. Not applicable. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Links to Shepherd's report is on IDR wiki https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/Shepherd-SR-BGP-LS/BGP-LS-SR/bgp-ls-sr-policy This may be an easy form to quick read. Mail lists: See Shepherd's review prior to WG LC: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/DLfvkhT7HOClFSfUzFNQ9z8bSFc/ See Shepherd's review of -08/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ Please note the Shepherd requested AD review of 3 items: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ and https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/CvA1crVQJVfTDl2yvjNp_8kcXRo/ Ketant's viewpoint is that #15 = Maximum that fits in packet resolved by RFC9552/section 5.3 #18 and #30 - Ketan believes the metric types are not being consumed in BGP-LS. As new IANA code points are added, the implementers will know what is range and what is not. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? Yes - a few points from section 9 are summarized for Routing and Security lists: This is an extension of BGP-LS to manage/monitor SR policy for a truster SR domain [RFC8402]. It states: a) SR operates within a trusted SR domain [RFC8402), and the security considerations apply to this document. b) Controllers and application services using the BGP-LS information are expected to be within the trusted SR domain, c) SR Policy data is critical data "that constitutes a risk to [the] confidentiality of mission-critical or commercially sensitive" data. As always, BGP-ls traffic needs to be isolated from other BGP traffic (due to load) 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard: 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. Ketan Talaulikar https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/XNMFZ7_-GYwEVzALZF9aTylLWQQ/ Jie Dong: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuBOyS4Yuuiq1fgvbSZtPiHbLW4/ Jeff Tantsura https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/9h3iYa7fzYE3lvNcOaeOeheBoiM/ Clarence Filsfils https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/QaTiyYvGE5Yd6w1_JW_fz94ZpZs/ 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. Yes. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) NITs check https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/LyA6VOHdEJEuZjaV4HRaXnd8QzU/ 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? No. All are RFCs. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? No. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). See IANA's early review of the document: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/Xw9HfBTseSO_2dfV7UDRwoqKNAM/ Adding values to the following existing registries a) BGP-LS NLRI-Types b) BGP-LS Protocol-IDs c) BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute TLV 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. 1. SR Policy Protocol Origin registry - a new registry under "Segment Routing" with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 2. SR Segment Descriptor Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 3. BGP-LS SR Policy Metric Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
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09 | Susan Hares | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? Strong consensus with good discussions. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PndHjsj0nj6fFZ97inb8iz8_Qvk/ 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No. The discussion was active and provided good refinements to the draft. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/?q=draft-ietf-idr-sr-bgp-ls-sr-policy 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? 2 implementations: See https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/implementations/draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution One implementation does not have PCE and BGP co-resident, so it does not transmit the code to indicate the "reported via PCE" code. The Shepherd does not feel this should hold up standardization. Both Huawei and Cisco have implemented nine of the TLVs. Cisco has implemented all 18 of the TLVs. One group of TLVs not implemented by Huawei are the Constraint related TLVs (SR CP Constraints, SR AFfinity Constraint, SR SRLG Constraint, SR Bandwidth Constraint, SR Disjoint Group Constraint, SR Bidirectional Group Constraint, SR Metric Sontraint). The second group is the SR Segment list Bandwidth and the SR Segment list Bandwidth. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The BGP-LS for SR technologies closely interact with the spring and the srv6ops WG. These WG were directly queried on 11/10/2024. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. The need for Yang models modeling this work has been added to: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/BGP-Model-Features 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? Not applicable since this is not a Yang model. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. Not applicable. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Links to Shepherd's report is on IDR wiki https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/Shepherd-SR-BGP-LS/BGP-LS-SR/bgp-ls-sr-policy This may be an easy form to quick read. Mail lists: See Shepherd's review prior to WG LC: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/DLfvkhT7HOClFSfUzFNQ9z8bSFc/ See Shepherd's review of -08/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ Please note the Shepherd requested AD review of 3 items: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ and https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/CvA1crVQJVfTDl2yvjNp_8kcXRo/ Ketant's viewpoint is that #15 = Maximum that fits in packet resolved by RFC9552/section 5.3 #18 and #30 - Ketan believes the metric types are not being consumed in BGP-LS. As new IANA code points are added, the implementers will know what is range and what is not. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? Yes - a few points from section 9 are summarized for Routing and Security lists: This is an extension of BGP-LS to manage/monitor SR policy for a truster SR domain [RFC8402]. It states: a) SR operates within a trusted SR domain [RFC8402), and the security considerations apply to this document. b) Controllers and application services using the BGP-LS information are expected to be within the trusted SR domain, c) SR Policy data is critical data "that constitutes a risk to [the] confidentiality of mission-critical or commercially sensitive" data. As always, BGP-ls traffic needs to be isolated from other BGP traffic (due to load) 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard: 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. Ketan Talaulikar https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/XNMFZ7_-GYwEVzALZF9aTylLWQQ/ Jie Dong: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuBOyS4Yuuiq1fgvbSZtPiHbLW4/ Jeff Tantsura https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/9h3iYa7fzYE3lvNcOaeOeheBoiM/ Clarence Filsfils https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/QaTiyYvGE5Yd6w1_JW_fz94ZpZs/ 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. Yes. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) NITs check https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/LyA6VOHdEJEuZjaV4HRaXnd8QzU/ 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? No. All are RFCs. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? No. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). See IANA's early review of the document: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/Xw9HfBTseSO_2dfV7UDRwoqKNAM/ Adding values to the following existing registries a) BGP-LS NLRI-Types b) BGP-LS Protocol-IDs c) BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute TLV 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. 1. SR Policy Protocol Origin registry - a new registry under "Segment Routing" with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 2. SR Segment Descriptor Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 3. BGP-LS SR Policy Metric Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
2024-12-06
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09 | Susan Hares | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? [TBD] 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No. The discussion was active and provided good refinements to the draft. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/?q=draft-ietf-idr-sr-bgp-ls-sr-policy 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? 2 implementations: See https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/implementations/draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution One implementation does not have PCE and BGP co-resident, so it does not transmit the code to indicate the "reported via PCE" code. The Shepherd does not feel this should hold up standardization. Both Huawei and Cisco have implemented nine of the TLVs. Cisco has implemented all 18 of the TLVs. One group of TLVs not implemented by Huawei are the Constraint related TLVs (SR CP Constraints, SR AFfinity Constraint, SR SRLG Constraint, SR Bandwidth Constraint, SR Disjoint Group Constraint, SR Bidirectional Group Constraint, SR Metric Sontraint). The second group is the SR Segment list Bandwidth and the SR Segment list Bandwidth. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The BGP-LS for SR technologies closely interact with the spring and the srv6ops WG. These WG were directly queried on 11/10/2024. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. The need for Yang models modeling this work has been added to: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/BGP-Model-Features 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? Not applicable since this is not a Yang model. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. Not applicable. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Links to Shepherd's report is on IDR wiki https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/Shepherd-SR-BGP-LS/BGP-LS-SR/bgp-ls-sr-policy This may be an easy form to quick read. Mail lists: See Shepherd's review prior to WG LC: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/DLfvkhT7HOClFSfUzFNQ9z8bSFc/ See Shepherd's review of -08/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ Please note the Shepherd requested AD review of 3 items: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/JW8IIxVTMer5-Qq7ld5ZCHXQ2sk/ and https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/CvA1crVQJVfTDl2yvjNp_8kcXRo/ Ketant's viewpoint is that #15 = Maximum that fits in packet resolved by RFC9552/section 5.3 #18 and #30 - Ketan believes the metric types are not being consumed in BGP-LS. As new IANA code points are added, the implementers will know what is range and what is not. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? Yes - a few points from section 9 are summarized for Routing and Security lists: This is an extension of BGP-LS to manage/monitor SR policy for a truster SR domain [RFC8402]. It states: a) SR operates within a trusted SR domain [RFC8402), and the security considerations apply to this document. b) Controllers and application services using the BGP-LS information are expected to be within the trusted SR domain, c) SR Policy data is critical data "that constitutes a risk to [the] confidentiality of mission-critical or commercially sensitive" data. As always, BGP-ls traffic needs to be isolated from other BGP traffic (due to load) 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard: 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. Ketan Talaulikar https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/XNMFZ7_-GYwEVzALZF9aTylLWQQ/ Jie Dong: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuBOyS4Yuuiq1fgvbSZtPiHbLW4/ Jeff Tantsura https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/9h3iYa7fzYE3lvNcOaeOeheBoiM/ Clarence Filsfils https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/QaTiyYvGE5Yd6w1_JW_fz94ZpZs/ 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. Yes. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) NITs check https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/LyA6VOHdEJEuZjaV4HRaXnd8QzU/ 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? No. All are RFCs. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? No. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). See IANA's early review of the document: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/Xw9HfBTseSO_2dfV7UDRwoqKNAM/ Adding values to the following existing registries a) BGP-LS NLRI-Types b) BGP-LS Protocol-IDs c) BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute TLV 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. 1. SR Policy Protocol Origin registry - a new registry under "Segment Routing" with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 2. SR Segment Descriptor Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 3. BGP-LS SR Policy Metric Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
2024-11-28
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09 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-09.txt |
2024-11-28
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09 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2024-11-28
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09 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2024-11-21
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08 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-08.txt |
2024-11-21
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08 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2024-11-21
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08 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2024-11-11
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07 | Susan Hares | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? [TBD] 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? [TBD] 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? 2 implementations: See https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/implementations/draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. The BGP-LS for SR technologies closely interact with the spring and the srv6ops WG. These WG were directly queried on 11/10/2024. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. The need for Yang models modeling this work has been added to: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/BGP-Model-Features 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? Not applicable since this is not a Jang model. 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. Not applicable. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? See shepherd's review prior to WG LC: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/DLfvkhT7HOClFSfUzFNQ9z8bSFc/ 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? [TBD] 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard: 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. Ketan Talaulikar https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/XNMFZ7_-GYwEVzALZF9aTylLWQQ/ Jie Dong: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuBOyS4Yuuiq1fgvbSZtPiHbLW4/ Jeff Tantsura https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/9h3iYa7fzYE3lvNcOaeOeheBoiM/ Clarence Filsfils https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/QaTiyYvGE5Yd6w1_JW_fz94ZpZs/ 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. Yes. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) [TBD] 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? No. All are RFCs. 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. No. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? No. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). See IANA's early review of the document: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/Xw9HfBTseSO_2dfV7UDRwoqKNAM/ Adding values to the following existing registries a) BGP-LS NLRI-Types b) BGP-LS Protocol-IDs c) BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute TLV 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. 1. SR Policy Protocol Origin registry - a new registry under "Segment Routing" with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 2. SR Segment Descriptor Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. 3. BGP-LS SR Policy Metric Types - a new registry under "Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters" registry group with an allocation policy is "Expert Review" [RFC8126] using the guidelines for Designated Experts as specified in [RFC9256]. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
2024-11-08
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07 | Susan Hares | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2024-11-03
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07 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-07.txt |
2024-11-03
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07 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2024-11-03
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07 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2024-10-19
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06 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-06.txt |
2024-10-19
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06 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2024-10-19
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06 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2024-07-22
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05 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-05.txt |
2024-07-22
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05 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2024-07-22
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05 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2024-03-20
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04 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-04.txt |
2024-03-20
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04 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2024-03-20
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04 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2023-11-05
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03 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-03.txt |
2023-11-05
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03 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2023-11-05
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03 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2023-10-23
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02 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-02.txt |
2023-10-23
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02 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2023-10-23
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02 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2023-07-23
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01 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-01.txt |
2023-07-23
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01 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Ketan Talaulikar) |
2023-07-23
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01 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |
2023-03-29
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00 | Susan Hares | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors and editors to complete these checks. Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure to answer all of them. ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
2023-03-29
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00 | Susan Hares | Notification list changed to shares@ndzh.com because the document shepherd was set |
2023-03-29
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00 | Susan Hares | Document shepherd changed to Susan Hares |
2023-03-28
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00 | Jie Dong | Added to session: IETF-116: idr Thu-0030 |
2023-03-09
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00 | Susan Hares | This document now replaces draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution instead of None |
2023-03-09
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00 | Ketan Talaulikar | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-00.txt |
2023-03-09
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00 | Susan Hares | WG -00 approved |
2023-03-08
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00 | Ketan Talaulikar | Set submitter to "Ketan Talaulikar ", replaces to draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution and sent approval email to group chairs: idr-chairs@ietf.org |
2023-03-08
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00 | Ketan Talaulikar | Uploaded new revision |